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Target Shooting Matches, Discussion & Events => The Long Range Club => Topic started by: rsterne on October 09, 2021, 10:39:35 PM
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I am considering hanging an empty 20 lb. Propane tank out at 100 yards.... I will cut the bottom off, leaving it bell shaped.... They are a foot in diameter, and not counting the handle (and minus the bottom) about a foot high.... Would you consider that target OK for offhand (standing, no rests) at 100 yards, or way too large?....
I'm thinking it should ring like a bell, which even my deaf ears could hear!.... ::)
Bob
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I voted for 12" , because I haven't even tried it, and my offhand skills are extremely lacking. I picked 12" only because I didn't see anything that resembled a 55 gallon metal drum in size ;-)
But I do like your idea for the propane tank. Brilliant!
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Will be watching; as I have been trying to improve my offhand skills and am curious...
Haven't tried anything more than a half dozen shots offhand at 100 yards-at least five of them hit my trap, which measures about 17" wide by 11" tall... So would think that maybe an 8" would be a nice blend between easy and a challenge, but since I've no real experience I didn't vote.
Jesse
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I’m saying 12” because I have actually hit a 14” frying pan I stuck out at 100 yards. With a bit more practice I might squeeze that down to 10”. Love the bell idea and I may try that with some 1 lb. cans I have. For closer range of course. ;D
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I am considering hanging an empty 20 lb. Propane tank out at 100 yards.... I will cut the bottom off, leaving it bell shaped.... They are a foot in diameter, and not counting the handle (and minus the bottom) about a foot high.... Would you consider that target OK for offhand (standing, no rests) at 100 yards, or way too large?....
I'm thinking it should ring like a bell, which even my deaf ears could hear!.... ::)
Bob
For long range, that’s brilliant, Bob! I’ve got plenty of empty refrigerant cans of various colors that make a nice ring when hit. With the bottom cut off, that’d be even better!
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I hadn’t thought about it yet, but now I gotta try.
I put down a 8” since that is the biggest one I have.
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After posting this I Googled a bit.... It seems like the most common answer was "minute of pie plate" for a success rate of 3 out of 5, but that is usually with a sling.... That's about 8", after a bit of practice, but to up that to 4 out of 5 I would think larger would be more typical.... Thing is, if it's too easy, just move back a bit!.... Next time I have a tank that is out of date and can't be filled, this is definitely going to happen.... 8)
Bob
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I've got a couple of empty pipe soldering non refillable gas canisters. I may drill a hole in them, fill with water, and cut with my angle grinder and see how well they work. My "trap" is an old broken woodstove and the canisters could probably hang inside. All of my DOT tanks are still fillable without a recert, so hard to justify cutting them up even though they have been sitting for years.
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Got out to check my 100 yard zero with the 18 grain Barracudas, and let off a 5-shot offhand group-found out later that I was off zero by approximately 2.5"/MOA in windage; and wasn't holding over enough-but in spite of that would have still hit a 10" gong 4 out of 5 times-so have voted for that. If I was sighted in and using the correct holdover, then I believe all 5 would have been on an 8" gong...
Jesse
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Morning, since this is our air rifle forum, I'm going to go with my air rifle which makes it more difficult. I'm also going to have to assume I'm taking a few sighting shots that day before I start shooting at the target. I'm also going to assume sling, because that's the only way I shoot offhand. And I'm going to assume dead calm.
The Marauder is within a couple minutes of an angle. Now at 30 yards, I can hit a 1" spinner 100% of the time offhand. But that really doesn't translate to 100 yards. So I'm going to add a couple of minutes of an angle hold to a couple minutes of an angle rifle inaccuracy and guess that I'm going to be able to hit an 10" gong.
FWIW, I have a steel plate for a backstop, and it sounds enough for me to hear at 100 yards (and I can still use paper).
I went back and said 10" gong to be safer. I know I can hit the 12"x12" plate if there's no breeze. :D
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I have an 8 inch plate out at 100 yards, and I sit on my porch and shoot at it a couple times each week. Getting those first couple hits when the breeze is blowing is challenging, but I can usually hit it 75% of the time after knowing where to hold. But that is from a sitting position, not standing. Shooting offhand, I am about 30%.
And if you can get your hands on a saw blade of appropriate size, they really ring when hit. I have an old weed-whacker blade in the trees at about 125 yards, and it clangs quite nicely when hit, but the holdover is huge out there.
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I watched a muzzle loading rifle shooting contest near Morehead, KY in 1970 or 1971.
They were standing with no support and shooting at clay pigeons fixed on a cardboard deer cutout at 100 yards.
The winner hit 9 clay pigeons straight.
The second place man hit 6 straight.
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Thanks to all those who answered.... I will make a bell/gong out of a 20 lb. tank next time I have one that is out of date....
Bob
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Thanks to all those who answered.... I will make a bell/gong out of a 20 lb. tank next time I have one that is out of date....
Bob
Thanks to this thread I’m going to make one out of an empty refrigerant can. I’ve shot at them before, but got bored with it after awhile. I’m going to zip off the end with the handles and drill a hole in the bottom, invert it and bolt an eyebolt to it to hang it. Should make a nice ring even at a great distance. ;)
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I like using 8"
I put a cow bell behind mine.
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Circular saw blades and cow bells make good gongs.
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Good idea about cutting off the top and hanging it from the bottom.... I'll do that when I get one out of date....
Bob
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
No worries at 100 meters. ;D
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Yeah, at 100 yards, and hanging in front of an unoccupied forest on a hillside should be just fine.... The background of ANY target must always be considered.... ;)
Bob
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
Good point. The following is a bit off topic, I'll modify the post if it's too much of a derail.
What if I cut it in half lengthwise and had the concave (inside) part facing the shooter? I am trying to repurpose all these old propane tanks into a trap that will make it easy to recover the lead. Maybe lining the inside with rubber mud flaps? I'm shooting 70+ FPE rifles in my case.
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
Good point. The following is a bit off topic, I'll modify the post if it's too much of a derail.
What if I cut it in half lengthwise and had the concave (inside) part facing the shooter? I am trying to repurpose all these old propane tanks into a trap that will make it easy to recover the lead. Maybe lining the inside with rubber mud flaps? I'm shooting 70+ FPE rifles in my case.
I find concave parabolic surfaces direct the fire right around back at the shooter, if some side bevels were bent inward at an inward angle it would possibly act as a bullet trap ???
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
Good point. The following is a bit off topic, I'll modify the post if it's too much of a derail.
What if I cut it in half lengthwise and had the concave (inside) part facing the shooter? I am trying to repurpose all these old propane tanks into a trap that will make it easy to recover the lead. Maybe lining the inside with rubber mud flaps? I'm shooting 70+ FPE rifles in my case.
I find concave parabolic surfaces direct the fire right around back at the shooter, if some side bevels were bent inward at an inward angle it would possibly act as a bullet trap ???
I guess I'm not going to be using the tanks for bullet traps then. Thanks for the info.
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
Good point. The following is a bit off topic, I'll modify the post if it's too much of a derail.
What if I cut it in half lengthwise and had the concave (inside) part facing the shooter? I am trying to repurpose all these old propane tanks into a trap that will make it easy to recover the lead. Maybe lining the inside with rubber mud flaps? I'm shooting 70+ FPE rifles in my case.
Champion or Do-All rimfire bullet traps will let you easily recover the lead.
I have used my Champion trap for about 40 years, mostly for 22 long rifle at about 100 FPE.
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One issue with using a propane tank. Because it is round, there is a greater risk of a ricochet.
Good point. The following is a bit off topic, I'll modify the post if it's too much of a derail.
What if I cut it in half lengthwise and had the concave (inside) part facing the shooter? I am trying to repurpose all these old propane tanks into a trap that will make it easy to recover the lead. Maybe lining the inside with rubber mud flaps? I'm shooting 70+ FPE rifles in my case.
Champion or Do-All rimfire bullet traps will let you easily recover the lead.
I have used my Champion trap for about 40 years, mostly for 22 long rifle at about 100 FPE.
I need it to stop my .45 Challenger which is more like .357 mag power.