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Title: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on November 28, 2022, 02:08:27 PM
The wind was calm this AM, so I decided to try shooting at 102yds again.  By the time I aired up the gun to 210bar, jumped in the truck, and got everything set up at the chicken barn, it was blowing 5-8mph (just a guess).  It would die down for a few seconds and be blowing again.  It was from the west this AM, so I was hoping with a tail wind it wouldn't have much effect on results.  I got a bigger card board box, and put 4 targets on it.  But still walked down between targets to check the grouping.  First group wasn't terrible, but I realized that the scope was 1/10mil adjustments instead of 1/4" adjustments.  (The other day I was actully making what I though were 1/4" adjustments. :o)  So after the first target I adjusted for 1/10mil (1 centimeter).  Here is the set-up and first target.  After this group I adjusted 1 click right and 2 clicks up.
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on November 28, 2022, 02:17:24 PM
I'm not sure why some of the pics are turned 90* and some are straight. :o

Anyway, after adjusting 1 click right and 2 clicks up I shot this group.  I waited for the wind to die down between shots if needed.  When I got down to the target and was looking at it, I couldn't figure out the low shot.  It had me scratching my head.  I had heard that a tail wind can cause drop, and a head wind can cause impacts above the POA. 

When I got back to the table, and looked through the scope I had my answer.  Instead of zeroing the crosshair at 100, I have been holding over a slash mark and then placing the first dot on the bullseye.  I think I actually put the first slash mark on the bullseye, and the dot was where the POI occurred! :o  A slight mental lapse to say the least.
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on November 28, 2022, 02:21:25 PM
The last 2 targets showed promise of what the gun can do, but the wind was getting worse and I think some mental fatigue as well.  After I shot them I shot 5 shots of each of the NSA's that I have also.  None of the NSA's showed much promise so didn't include the targets.  Here's the last 2 targets with the H&N .218 21 grs at 1000fps.
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: rsterne on November 28, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
Shooting in a head or tail wind is actually harder than a crosswind, because a slight shift in the wind from 11 to 1 o'clock, or 5 to 6 o'clock, will cause a vertical shift as well as a sideways one.... Not only that, but pellets rise or fall opposite to slugs....

https://hardairmagazine.com/ham-columns/vertical-deflection-for-pellets-in-crosswind/

Bob
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on November 28, 2022, 08:08:25 PM
Shooting in a head or tail wind is actually harder than a crosswind, because a slight shift in the wind from 11 to 1 o'clock, or 5 to 6 o'clock, will cause a vertical shift as well as a sideways one.... Not only that, but pellets rise or fall opposite to slugs....

https://hardairmagazine.com/ham-columns/vertical-deflection-for-pellets-in-crosswind/

Bob

Thanks for the link Bob!  I had seen the diagrams for pellets before but did not realize it would be the opposite "jump" for slugs.  Definitely good information.  Wish I had held for the correct mil-dot on the low shot for the one group. :o ;D
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on December 05, 2022, 11:05:08 AM
I did some more shooting yesterday after adding the 1" Monstrum riser, and moving the scope back a little.  Much more comfortable.  I had used up the first tin of H&N .218 21 gr slugs, and when I tried the other tin they appeared oxidized.  I didn't have the Ballistol with me so I tried shooting some several days ago and they were terrible.

Yesterday I added a little Ballistol to the NSA .217 23gr slugs and also the oxidized tin of H&N's.  I decided to zero in at 100yds due to the error in post #2 of this thread instead of trying to hold over.  It would print 2-3 sub MOA and 1-2 fliers that would open up to 2-2.5MOA.  I tried several targets and couldn't get any better results.  Finally I posted up a ShootNC target and was going to walk the target back to check hold unders every 10yds for the 23gr NSA's.  Then I got the bright idea that I wanted to check the difference between the 23gr NSA's and the 21gr H&N's.  It was one MIL dot plus 1/2" on 14 power on the scope, and all 3 rounds were sub 1MOA.  So I decided to rotate the target and try NUAH again with the .21gr H&N .218's.

I aimed at the bottom of the 1" black ring and yes first shot I forgot to hold under 1 MIL dot. ???  The other four shots were in the 10 ring. :o  The other 3 targets had 3 in the 10 ring and a  couple of fliers. Maybe one day I will get both brain cells functioning on the same page. LOL 
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: splitbeing on December 05, 2022, 11:57:40 AM
Almost there brain cells! Watching and cheering you on!
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: ER00z on December 05, 2022, 12:09:09 PM
Ken, Great shooting!
Title: Re: November 28 102yd attempt
Post by: customcutter on December 05, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
Ken, Great shooting!

Thanks Zack.  I was surprised, just shooting the gun as I received it.  The previous owner had tuned it to shoot JSB RD's but went with the BRK Ghost instead.  I'm glad he did! ;D