I think the idea here is that its theorized that pellets moving 550 fps and slower lose stability at ranges over 20-25 yards and accuracy is effected. Never tested it personally though. I would love to see some .30 groupings at 35-50 yards with one of these rifles, ive heard theyre decent enough for medium sized game. Idk about squirrel headshots at 50 yards, but i could be wrong
Quote from: dave2288 on December 05, 2016, 09:09:35 PMI think the idea here is that its theorized that pellets moving 550 fps and slower lose stability at ranges over 20-25 yards and accuracy is effected. Never tested it personally though. I would love to see some .30 groupings at 35-50 yards with one of these rifles, ive heard theyre decent enough for medium sized game. Idk about squirrel headshots at 50 yards, but i could be wrongWatch Rick Eutsler's video on YouTube. 50 yards- maybe not. But I'm more inclined to think it is not only possible but repeatable. Like I said, a sub-12 FPE springer can drop sparrows all day longer than 40 yards. Given my .25 95QE's performance at 30 yards, I think a .30 should do some pretty cool things. And, once a .30 pellet is in motion, it's keeping momentum for sure.
Watch Rick Eutsler's video on YouTube. 50 yards- maybe not. But I'm more inclined to think it is not only possible but repeatable. Like I said, a sub-12 FPE springer can drop sparrows all day longer than 40 yards. Given my .25 95QE's performance at 30 yards, I think a .30 should do some pretty cool things. And, once a .30 pellet is in motion, it's keeping momentum for sure.
The one thought actually i have on this is...and i dont remember who it was...but i know years ago(probably like a decade ago or so) there were guys that recorded 60ish yard pigeon hunts with beeman r7s. Wish i could remember the guys that did the video, was really cool. That rifle i believe is only shooting a bit faster than the 135 .30, and with much more effect on the .177 pellets for air resistance. All i know is...i wanna see some freakin groupings! Lol
I have one on order, so we shall see soon.
I Cant give you a lot of technical info because im never the one with a chrono or any of that and i send my guns out to be tuned so im not the machinist type either. But i do like to have fun and play with cool stuff. Im happy with my .30 and would be interested in having someone tune it and make it better. Sighted in at 33 yards ( because that was what i had to work with that day ) it seems deadly accurate within that range and when recently was taken out and set up target eggs at 50 ,60 ,70 ,80 .... Only was it 80 that didnt get much consistency. Mind you this was being passed back and forth between 3 guys each taking 3 shots each and having never touched the gun before. Neither are shooters by nature either. Everyone was quite pleased. I myself very surprised. Now you could tell there wasnt much FPE left on it by the time it was past 35 to 45 ... but i was really surprised how flat it was still and with not much hold over it seemed . I agree .25 at this FPE makes more sense in MANY ways . However i decided i see myself buying more .30 guns in the future and only maybe one or 2 more .25 guns in my lifetime ( i think , lol) ... But do plan on owning a few more .30 . Especially if Evanix and a few others follow through with projects im watching. This has however made me really think several times about ALSO ordering soon this same rifle in .25 I find the overall platform and rifle regardless of caliber to be a steal for the price.
I just received a 135QE/.30 refurb on the Field Supply sale. I am happy with the purchase and the rifle is very accurate at close range, shooting around 30 FPE with the Vortex 44.75gr pellets. I also have an older 135/.25 springer that shoots a bit stronger @ 33 FPE. I think overall the .25 is probably a better all 'round caliber (if you are shooting past 30 yds) but I'm glad to have both. The stock is nicer on the .30/QE and the shrouded barrel is quieter.
Quote from: packard8 on December 27, 2016, 10:14:41 PMI just received a 135QE/.30 refurb on the Field Supply sale. I am happy with the purchase and the rifle is very accurate at close range, shooting around 30 FPE with the Vortex 44.75gr pellets. I also have an older 135/.25 springer that shoots a bit stronger @ 33 FPE. I think overall the .25 is probably a better all 'round caliber (if you are shooting past 30 yds) but I'm glad to have both. The stock is nicer on the .30/QE and the shrouded barrel is quieter.Good to hear!Even if the trajectory is loopy, as long as it is consistent you'll be able to hit whatever you want wherever you want. "I've been reaching out more with my 95QE in .25- Polymags are all I have in .25, so my next batch of pellets with be something with dome front end to play longer distances "
Peter: Domed H&N 19.91gr. Field Target Trophies have been shooting good in my 25cal. Hatsan Rifles[/u].[/color] My Best Regards to You - Tom
Quote from: twood68 on December 29, 2016, 07:21:19 PMPeter: Domed H&N 19.91gr. Field Target Trophies have been shooting good in my 25cal. Hatsan Rifles[/u].[/color] My Best Regards to You - TomThe Hatsan Vortex Supreme .25 19.91 pellets are the same, made by H&N for Hatsan. Sometimes Field Supply has them on sale for less then the H&N FTT's.
Quote from: anti-squirrel on November 30, 2016, 11:04:19 PMThe down-range power is pretty awesome. I shoot a .25 Hatsan 95QE and it destroys squirrels; it isn't a hyper-velocity springer but Gets The Job Done.. Perhaps the most telling YouTube review I've seen of the .30 is Rick Eutsler's.... but I haven't read anything bad by people that own one here on the GTA.I also look at things this way: I've killed a lot of pest birds using sling-shots with 1/4" and 5/16" steel ball ammo. They were moving a lot slower than the .30 caliber pellets coming from the big-bore Hatsan, and ammo weight is comparable.Think of this: a springer carrying 20+ FPE at 50 yards, and even moving at slower speeds, it doesn't decelerate as fast because of all that mass. Given how my .25 bucks the wind, the .30 is sure to do even better. I just took a peek at the reviews on PA- lots of happy owners- let that be your guide. "A pellet in motion tends to stay in motion" LOLwell said , it seems like everyone thinks a slow projectile is useless, but a slow 30 cal round will do some damage, all the energy is imparted on target
The down-range power is pretty awesome. I shoot a .25 Hatsan 95QE and it destroys squirrels; it isn't a hyper-velocity springer but Gets The Job Done.. Perhaps the most telling YouTube review I've seen of the .30 is Rick Eutsler's.... but I haven't read anything bad by people that own one here on the GTA.I also look at things this way: I've killed a lot of pest birds using sling-shots with 1/4" and 5/16" steel ball ammo. They were moving a lot slower than the .30 caliber pellets coming from the big-bore Hatsan, and ammo weight is comparable.Think of this: a springer carrying 20+ FPE at 50 yards, and even moving at slower speeds, it doesn't decelerate as fast because of all that mass. Given how my .25 bucks the wind, the .30 is sure to do even better. I just took a peek at the reviews on PA- lots of happy owners- let that be your guide. "A pellet in motion tends to stay in motion" LOL