Quote from: Brazos on December 05, 2018, 08:56:45 PMIf you could expand your budget just a little more than buy a HW30S from Krale.Been following this thread and was just about to mention the HW30S when read Brazos post. Myself, now owning three of them of different vintages (1976, 2002, 2016), I cannot tell you how much in love I am with them. The newest one shoots nearly as smooth as the oldest, indicating that there is not that much break-in necessary. The S version has the renowned Rekord trigger, and is just a dream to have.QuoteNot as turned away from gas pistons since lubing the prowler, that really helped make cocking the thing feel much better.Fightinggoat - Curious as to what all you did to your Prowler. Been wanting to get inside of mine and see how to improve it. I did the bearing mod on the trigger and that improved it, but I also have a GRTIII on the shelf waiting to be installed. What lubing did you do?Dennis
If you could expand your budget just a little more than buy a HW30S from Krale.
Not as turned away from gas pistons since lubing the prowler, that really helped make cocking the thing feel much better.
Good catch Dennis. I got in a hurry to post and didn’t pay attention to it being a np2. Thank you.
Thanks for the parts list. Is the cocking lever different? Or could I just remove the old one and put it on the new barrel?
No worries Dennis,I did not take it that way at all.
Looking to add a .177 springer to the arsenal, I enjoy shooting my sons xs-12 and the ammo is both cheap and plentiful, just want a full size stock and more power. I do however want a powerful rifle, accuracy is important, but this is more for fun and power is fun. Doesn't have to be superb out of the box, I plan on doing a home tune on anything I buy anyway as I enjoy tinkering, including the trigger. I do want 800-1000fps with lead, not trying to spend much on a casual plinker that I plan on tearing into and experimenting with. Say under $175, prefer $100-150. I don't need a scope or bundle with accessories, I have optics I can use but will probably keep using the irons for the short ranges I will be using it for. Want to stay with .177, I don't have a full size .177 and that's the whole reason for this acquisition. I demand minute of tin can accuracy and power to spare, all for a large budget of $150. Any takers?
If you can shoot a 800-1000fps Springer well. the crosman 1000x's are GREAT, powerful and accurate. stack pellets at 15 yards, ragged dime size hole groups at 25-30 yards. like mentioned the quest/summit/optimus/striker are great guns, exactly fit your bill.
Quote from: Stinger177 on December 07, 2018, 12:04:03 AMQuote from: Brazos on December 05, 2018, 08:56:45 PMIf you could expand your budget just a little more than buy a HW30S from Krale.Been following this thread and was just about to mention the HW30S when read Brazos post. Myself, now owning three of them of different vintages (1976, 2002, 2016), I cannot tell you how much in love I am with them. The newest one shoots nearly as smooth as the oldest, indicating that there is not that much break-in necessary. The S version has the renowned Rekord trigger, and is just a dream to have.QuoteNot as turned away from gas pistons since lubing the prowler, that really helped make cocking the thing feel much better.Fightinggoat - Curious as to what all you did to your Prowler. Been wanting to get inside of mine and see how to improve it. I did the bearing mod on the trigger and that improved it, but I also have a GRTIII on the shelf waiting to be installed. What lubing did you do?DennisI added a longer set screw for the trigger, it allows more preload on the sear and really helped lighten it, in fact I can fire the gun if I turn the screw in far enough. Had to tinker with it by cocking the rifle and holding the barrel in my hand while tightening the screw until it released the piston, then I backed it off one full turn and repeated the process until it was light enough to be accurate but allowed enough engagement to be safe. I didn't have to debut anything as it was already smooth and free of sharp or jagged edges, I lubed trigger contact and pivot points as well as the springs in the trigger group. I lubed the piston around the seal with some moly, lubed the cocking linkage, and barrel pivot bushings. Replaced the breech seal with an oring that stands a little prouder and is more pliable for a better seal. Also removed the anti bear trap as I like being able to decock and I always maintain control of the barrel while cocking and loading anyway. It really does cock with less drag now, peak effort is roughly the same, but it glides instead of slides. I did apply a light film of moly to the NP shaft, even though I know it's sealed so tight it will get wiped away, I figured it couldn't hurt and may help lube the seal area, have done this with automotive gas struts with some success before. I didn't even have to adjust the scope much after the lube tune, accuracy is better than before with very solid groups, no doubt due to the lighter trigger. It's a really nice shooter with respectable power.I think a .177 barrel for it might just be all I need to be happy for a while. It was one of the easier rifles to disassembly, very little preload on the NP, but what little preload that's there is practically impossible to compress without a spring compressor, my entire body weight could just barely budge it a single millimeter.
I just ran across this on amazon. BSA Supersport SE .177 wood springer $115. The .22 is $164 and the .25 is $300+.I can't do links. Just google amazon bsa supersport .177 air rifle.
UpdateJust pulled the trigger on a refurb hatsan 85C (camo stock) from field supply !