I am also interested in maybe some of the multi-shot break barrels, but have no interest in PCP because I want the rifle to be always ready and self-contained power. Thanks
Guy says he's not interested in PCP's and gets hammered! Tough crowd. Maybe go ask a pumper/springer specific group for better advice.There are plenty airguns that will work that arent potato-style guns
I would get a pumper like a Daisy 901 or a Crosman 362 and keep it pumped and loaded. You're not going to get a quick follow up but it won't be THAT much slower than a break barrel. Don't get a break barrel repeater. Mine was a frustrating mess.Of course this assumes that it is safe to leave it sitting there.
PCP for sure. More power, more shots and much quicker follow-up. From your statement, you have zero knowledge of any types of pellet rifles. From someone with all of them, the PCP is the easiest to get the most performance.
We homestead a little patch of land in rural west Florida. I have permission to hunt approximately 40 adjacent acres for small game. I have used my air rifles to take varmints and garden pests on my own piece also. I’ve been experimenting with springers, pumpers, and gassers for this purpose for at least three years. I haven’t found he perfect gun yet.Things to consider: Ease and speed of reloading.My experience says you’re going to want a follow up shot and you’re going to want one quick.Are you going to shoot at night? My Experience says night sights and tactical lights don’t last long on springers. Conversely they can be difficult to mount on pumpers.Is the gun suitable for a quick shot? Will you leave it loaded?My experience says pumpers and springers have disadvantages in these regards.Co2 gun’s give off a puff of condensation when shot. At night, backlit by a tactical light, seen through a scope, that puff becomes an opaque cloud that obscures all vision for a moment. Gassers are suitable for daytime pesting though.Right now I’m leaning toward a an under lever repeater like the Umarex Synergis as being probably the most practical cheap springer for a back door gun.
Quote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 08:54:41 AMI would get a pumper like a Daisy 901 or a Crosman 362 and keep it pumped and loaded. You're not going to get a quick follow up but it won't be THAT much slower than a break barrel. Don't get a break barrel repeater. Mine was a frustrating mess.Of course this assumes that it is safe to leave it sitting there.Out of curiosity. Which break barrel was "a frustrating mess"? There's more then a few. Some are absolutely junk and some I'd bet my life on.
Quote from: Bayman on December 09, 2022, 12:03:05 PMQuote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 08:54:41 AMI would get a pumper like a Daisy 901 or a Crosman 362 and keep it pumped and loaded. You're not going to get a quick follow up but it won't be THAT much slower than a break barrel. Don't get a break barrel repeater. Mine was a frustrating mess.Of course this assumes that it is safe to leave it sitting there.Out of curiosity. Which break barrel was "a frustrating mess"? There's more then a few. Some are absolutely junk and some I'd bet my life on.GAMO Swarm Maxim Gen 2. The pellets kept getting crushed either in the mag or the breech when I cocked it. Sometimes they would fall out when returning the barrel into battery.I have concluded that if you want a piston gun get a Weihrauch, Air Arms, Diana, or FWB. Anything else is just a waste of time and money. Maybe a Whiscombe if you win the lottery. It's way easier to find a decent, affordable pumper than a springer IME.
Quote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 12:14:52 PMQuote from: Bayman on December 09, 2022, 12:03:05 PMQuote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 08:54:41 AMI would get a pumper like a Daisy 901 or a Crosman 362 and keep it pumped and loaded. You're not going to get a quick follow up but it won't be THAT much slower than a break barrel. Don't get a break barrel repeater. Mine was a frustrating mess.Of course this assumes that it is safe to leave it sitting there.Out of curiosity. Which break barrel was "a frustrating mess"? There's more then a few. Some are absolutely junk and some I'd bet my life on.GAMO Swarm Maxim Gen 2. The pellets kept getting crushed either in the mag or the breech when I cocked it. Sometimes they would fall out when returning the barrel into battery.I have concluded that if you want a piston gun get a Weihrauch, Air Arms, Diana, or FWB. Anything else is just a waste of time and money. Maybe a Whiscombe if you win the lottery. It's way easier to find a decent, affordable pumper than a springer IME.You make a good point because the 362 makes a lot of power without having to over pump it...A scoped 362 might be a good option and probably easier to load than the 1977xs. I need to lookup the overall length and compare.
Quote from: Sh00ter on December 09, 2022, 12:28:49 PMQuote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 12:14:52 PMQuote from: Bayman on December 09, 2022, 12:03:05 PMQuote from: HOSPassassin on December 09, 2022, 08:54:41 AMI would get a pumper like a Daisy 901 or a Crosman 362 and keep it pumped and loaded. You're not going to get a quick follow up but it won't be THAT much slower than a break barrel. Don't get a break barrel repeater. Mine was a frustrating mess.Of course this assumes that it is safe to leave it sitting there.Out of curiosity. Which break barrel was "a frustrating mess"? There's more then a few. Some are absolutely junk and some I'd bet my life on.GAMO Swarm Maxim Gen 2. The pellets kept getting crushed either in the mag or the breech when I cocked it. Sometimes they would fall out when returning the barrel into battery.I have concluded that if you want a piston gun get a Weihrauch, Air Arms, Diana, or FWB. Anything else is just a waste of time and money. Maybe a Whiscombe if you win the lottery. It's way easier to find a decent, affordable pumper than a springer IME.You make a good point because the 362 makes a lot of power without having to over pump it...A scoped 362 might be a good option and probably easier to load than the 1977xs. I need to lookup the overall length and compare.I can't speak to the pumping effort of a 362, not having owned one, but I can say that the 1977 is pretty stout after about the sixth pump. It's made worse by the pump handle cutting into your palm. The Daisy 880/901 or the 362 will be much easier on the hand than that.