How do you reply to a response without all of the quotes being re-quoted again? I don't see a simple (reply) feature am I missing something?
CURRENT DIANA sight are not as wobbly/backlashy as the the medium-old ones.Yes the OLD-OLD ones were much better, but the current ones are not that bad. AND they are not wobbly.
Are they the best sights in the world? no. You would have to pay between $535 and $800 to get a masterpiece of iron sights in a gun. So, feel free to do so.
Quote from: Keen on November 18, 2022, 03:45:32 PMhttps://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-precision-sight-set-globe-front-sight-w-insert-rear-diopter?a=608Keen, my apologies! I missed that your post above mentioned two different sights.I do NOT recommend this cheaper Crosman "precision" sight. I had one for a while and found the single clamping "foot" - a sharp-edged stamped bit - was quite weak. I imagine it would have a hard time holding still on the 350, and would likely scratch the gun if it moved.The Crosman "diopter sight system" I linked above is a much better-made unit, with a much heftier clamp, at a similar price. I saw one at the Columbus show and was impressed (though, as I mentioned previously, I haven't been hand's-on with an example).And ya can't go wrong with the old Anschutzes1!
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-precision-sight-set-globe-front-sight-w-insert-rear-diopter?a=608
Not sure if any of these would fit but look like good quality. Am considering these for rimfire as well. I have an old hawke vantage on mine that has survived many thousands of shots . Its not as accurate as my 48 but when im on my game its a squirrel killer. Armodillo and possum not safe as well. Good luck. You have a good rifle but need lotsa loving and patience to get the best out of them.https://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/categories.php?cat=5
I'm shooting in the dark here without any photos (pun intended)...but if your 350 has the traditional Diana front sight that takes flat metal inserts, those are exactly the same pattern originated by Walther, and "borrowed" by Feinwerkbau and Diana back in the day. This photo shows, left to right, FWB, Walther, and Diana tunnels, alll with inserts taken from a set that came with a Diana model 60 match rifle (the post with a bead on top is my personal fave for most shooting).Anschutz front sights will also fit the grooves on the Diana's muzzle. They take a different pattern insert, but these are made in a large variety of configurations and sizes, and are relatively easy to find.For me, the ultimate rear iron sights for Dianas are the old steel Anschutz diopters. Tough, precise, and able to take a lot of cool accessories. Left to right, models 6705 (alloy), 6700, and two versions of the 6702 (all steel).
The only problem that I see with the Anschutz front and rear sights is they would could much more than the rifle FI you could find them. Probably the best source would be Champions Choice. There is a guy in Canada who sells sights of various but expensive types. I bought some tools from him a couple years ago and will see if I still have is company name.The seller I got sight parts from has an ebay store; He is NIKKONOS. Search for Gehmann wrench on ebay. Went right to him.There is also an ebay store from some person in BULGARIA that has many iron sights at not too bad prices. Reliability ? I have a set for my FWB 300 that are OEM. I'll never sell or separate them from the 300.
Wobbliness and backlashiness has different levels, sure. The rear sight on my 2015 350 Mag is wobbly and backlashy. I guess you next tell me the rear sights were improved in the following seven years? You have an incredible level of springer knowhow and expertise, which I'm grateful for and in awe of. But I have noticed that NO feature in the current Diana lineup has ANY faults according to you. Sales come first, I guess.Excluded middle, big time. No masterpieces are needed, or wanted. Just simple iron sights that are wobble and backlash free, with positive adjustment, and correct relative height and dimensions for a clear and correct sight picture at 5 to 55 yards, or the realistic use distance range of a sporter springer.
Quote from: Ike the GSD on November 17, 2022, 04:24:38 AMHi everybody, been a long time since I've posted anything here hope everyone is well. My question is are there any aftermarket Iron sights for the Diana 350 that are of better quality? The sights that come with the rifle are loose (rear) and poorly made (front) I can't believe Dian would put such cheap sights on such a nice rifle. Anything will be an improvement steel would be nice for the rear and a better clamping system for the front would be nice as well! Thanks guys"Iron" is not restricted to "open".I would look into Williams, whether for a peep or for a notch.Start by defining what LOS length you want/need and that depends on the use/target of the shot.The 350 came out with "pyramid in tunnel" front sight (non-removeable, so no way to use different inserts), SO I really do not see how those sights could be "bad" you just need to get used to them.The rear sights are not bad at all, perhaps you are missing a clip or a spring in yours?Pictures would help us understand how to better help you.THX!HM
Hi everybody, been a long time since I've posted anything here hope everyone is well. My question is are there any aftermarket Iron sights for the Diana 350 that are of better quality? The sights that come with the rifle are loose (rear) and poorly made (front) I can't believe Dian would put such cheap sights on such a nice rifle. Anything will be an improvement steel would be nice for the rear and a better clamping system for the front would be nice as well! Thanks guys
Quote from: Ilimakko on November 19, 2022, 07:52:48 AMWobbliness and backlashiness has different levels, sure. The rear sight on my 2015 350 Mag is wobbly and backlashy. I guess you next tell me the rear sights were improved in the following seven years? You have an incredible level of springer knowhow and expertise, which I'm grateful for and in awe of. But I have noticed that NO feature in the current Diana lineup has ANY faults according to you. Sales come first, I guess.Excluded middle, big time. No masterpieces are needed, or wanted. Just simple iron sights that are wobble and backlash free, with positive adjustment, and correct relative height and dimensions for a clear and correct sight picture at 5 to 55 yards, or the realistic use distance range of a sporter springer.I feel your comment is empty and uncalled for.If anyone here is looking out for the shooters is me.And I point out DIANA mistakes to both sides, shooters and makers. I tell both CEO's the things that I tell here.If you want a really simple, working open sight, then make it yourself. It is not that hard, all you need is a piece of steel and some basic metric tools. DIANA has already drilled and tapped the mounting holes.Make a block, cut a dovetail, make the leaf, cut the notch to YOUR liking, drift the whole leaf in the dovetail for windage correction as was done all the way to the 1930's, and use the same elevation screw in the DIANA sight to dial in the range.Easy, peasy, lemon squeezy. Hundreds of thousands of deer fell to Win '94's equipped with just such sights.I have made peep sights out of the DIANA rear sights:And put proper grains on front sights:With quite good results:So, believe me I know where the defects are and what needs to be done. It is not rocket science by the way.What's a bit frustrating is to hear all the complaints but when the premium components are available, everyone balks at the extra investment.On top, the truth is that iron sights, especially the open ones are very hard to master, it is easy to blame the tool when the craft does not end in a good result.There ARE aftermarket options for the user that wants iron sights in a DIANA, they are just neither cheap, nor readily available in all parts of the world.AND the reason is simple: with relatively good scopes at the $75 to $150 region, VERY FEW shooters even want the irons.I could not care less about sales, that is another person's job. I care about the shooters, problem with this thread is that I am STILL waiting to hear what the OP really wants to do (targets, distance, conditions, etc.). Which leads me to believe that it was just a rant which presents an easy wagon to jump on to.Keep well and shoot straight!HM
Ok everybody, step back and breathe through your nose quietly for a minute. First:The original poster (IKE the GSD?) question started with the difficulty with the "iron" sights on his 2 year old MAGNUM springer (350) coming loose and not being able to tighten them properly. He then compared it to a Diana 34 (a much more modest powered air rifle.) In a later post, he mentioned that the scope he had on it disintegrated. Didn't mention what the scope was or if it was air rifle rated. Discription suggests it wasn't such a scope. As we all know MAGNUM springers CAN KILL SCOPES READILY. This particularly true with those who have conventional rings and mounts rather than the better no-recoil scope mounts like ZR from Diana. Second: He got little satisfaction from either the seller Pyramid Air or Diana when he contacted them. Pyramid clearly states that they don't do warranty work and refer customers to the manufacturer/importer. NOT THE BEST IN CUSTOMER SERVICE IN MY OPINION FOR A MAJOR AIR GUN SELLER BUT THAT'S THEIR POLICY. What was his experience with Diana or whomever Pyramid sent him to? Third: He states in one of his posts that he wants to do small game hunting in the 20yd range. Something that non-optical sights should be able to handle readily. Fourth: He complains about the quality of the "iron" sights. Again the MAGNUM springer problem raises its head. I won't diverge there because I haven't tried to use iron or non-optical sights on any of my air rifles. Then everyone diverged into the good old days of super quality stuff at penny prices. Dredging up a 21 year old comment from a very competent air gunsmith to call him a shill for a company he works with / for is a bit unfair. Hijacking the thread to do so is unnecessary. REAL QUESTION IS: Is the original concern valid? OEM sights should be able to at least function on the rifle they were designed to work with. Apparently something is WRONG with either the particular set of sights or with the design. Hector asked for pictures of the sights in question. They were not provided so he couldn't do any visual assessment of the particular engineering or the installation. Lots of advice was given as to high performance (and cost!) after-market sights. As I said you can easily spend more than the rifle cost initially on such sights. SECOND QUESTION: Was something done to the rifle to cause the issue? Comments were made about screws not staying tight and something was said about Phillips head screws being used. I don't recall seeing Phillps Head screws on Diana rifles. I remember mostly straight-slotted METRIC threaded screws and possibly TORX or Allen type screws. Does that suggest someone was butching around with the air rifle in it's two year lifetime. Is it possible that Pyramyd sold him a return or refurbished rifle that may have had some issues.Is it possible that the screws were overtightened to the extent of stripping either the screws or the holes in the rifle. - Recall issues of over-torquing that can occur and have been extensively discussed on this site. THIRD QUESTION: What does Ike want to do? Does he want help on non-optical sights or advice on how best to get the REAL value out of his purchase. He mentioned selling the rifle and getting a competitive one. His call and his absolute right. I, for one, would like to hear what Ike really wants. Dave Thomas aka Grump Old Guy