Quote from: Jshooter71 on July 25, 2021, 07:30:18 PMQuote from: Lt. Dan on July 25, 2021, 06:15:13 PMI've had this scope since Christmas and it's been on my R9 until this morning. It's been an excellent scope until this morning. I was shooting 1-1/2" spinners this morning at 30, 35, and 40 yds and all of a sudden I started missing. I was puzzled, I checked the stock screws, etc and couldn't figure it out. It had suddenly started hitting 1" to the left. I started shooting at a paper target and noticed it began creeping back to where it was sighted originally. Everything seemed okay but then it happened again but this time it didn't go back. I tried turning the turret to bring it back to the right but it won't move. What happened to my UTG 3-12x44 ??Not sure, but this is the same thing that happened to my UTG 2-16x44 I had on the Parrus. Too much elevation to catch zero and then one day it just started shooting left, I kept adjusting until it gave up. I talked with UTG warranty for a couple days. In the mean time I mechanically zero’d it and put it on a different rifle. The scope is fine, the Parrus had too much droop, even with a compensator rail under it. If you don’t have a rail under yours, you may try it and it could be fine.Hmm. I don't have any droop. I've shot about 1,500 pellets, anyway I have an Airmax on it now.
Quote from: Lt. Dan on July 25, 2021, 06:15:13 PMI've had this scope since Christmas and it's been on my R9 until this morning. It's been an excellent scope until this morning. I was shooting 1-1/2" spinners this morning at 30, 35, and 40 yds and all of a sudden I started missing. I was puzzled, I checked the stock screws, etc and couldn't figure it out. It had suddenly started hitting 1" to the left. I started shooting at a paper target and noticed it began creeping back to where it was sighted originally. Everything seemed okay but then it happened again but this time it didn't go back. I tried turning the turret to bring it back to the right but it won't move. What happened to my UTG 3-12x44 ??Not sure, but this is the same thing that happened to my UTG 2-16x44 I had on the Parrus. Too much elevation to catch zero and then one day it just started shooting left, I kept adjusting until it gave up. I talked with UTG warranty for a couple days. In the mean time I mechanically zero’d it and put it on a different rifle. The scope is fine, the Parrus had too much droop, even with a compensator rail under it. If you don’t have a rail under yours, you may try it and it could be fine.
I've had this scope since Christmas and it's been on my R9 until this morning. It's been an excellent scope until this morning. I was shooting 1-1/2" spinners this morning at 30, 35, and 40 yds and all of a sudden I started missing. I was puzzled, I checked the stock screws, etc and couldn't figure it out. It had suddenly started hitting 1" to the left. I started shooting at a paper target and noticed it began creeping back to where it was sighted originally. Everything seemed okay but then it happened again but this time it didn't go back. I tried turning the turret to bring it back to the right but it won't move. What happened to my UTG 3-12x44 ??
Quote from: Lt. Dan on July 25, 2021, 07:51:45 PMQuote from: Jshooter71 on July 25, 2021, 07:30:18 PMQuote from: Lt. Dan on July 25, 2021, 06:15:13 PMI've had this scope since Christmas and it's been on my R9 until this morning. It's been an excellent scope until this morning. I was shooting 1-1/2" spinners this morning at 30, 35, and 40 yds and all of a sudden I started missing. I was puzzled, I checked the stock screws, etc and couldn't figure it out. It had suddenly started hitting 1" to the left. I started shooting at a paper target and noticed it began creeping back to where it was sighted originally. Everything seemed okay but then it happened again but this time it didn't go back. I tried turning the turret to bring it back to the right but it won't move. What happened to my UTG 3-12x44 ??Not sure, but this is the same thing that happened to my UTG 2-16x44 I had on the Parrus. Too much elevation to catch zero and then one day it just started shooting left, I kept adjusting until it gave up. I talked with UTG warranty for a couple days. In the mean time I mechanically zero’d it and put it on a different rifle. The scope is fine, the Parrus had too much droop, even with a compensator rail under it. If you don’t have a rail under yours, you may try it and it could be fine.Hmm. I don't have any droop. I've shot about 1,500 pellets, anyway I have an Airmax on it now.I didn’t necessarily mean that you have droop, just the amount of turns of elevation to acquire zero, if you had to. My situation was extreme, but taught me, none the less. Maybe that scope just quit. I’m glad you’re up & shooting again with the Hawke.
That is rather disappointing. I’ve not had one fail, even the one that I thought so came back by bringing the elevation back to center. After putting it on a different rifle, it’s been fine.
Quote from: Jshooter71 on July 26, 2021, 07:07:37 AMThat is rather disappointing. I’ve not had one fail, even the one that I thought so came back by bringing the elevation back to center. After putting it on a different rifle, it’s been fine.Your scope didn't really come back to life as much the next gun didn't have droop or as much as the first gun it was on. Any scope when run at the maximum adjustment in any plane is likely to not hold zero. Technically that scope did not fail. The fault lied in way it was mounted and really more so the gun itself. Supposedly dead airgun scopes that work fine when moved to a powder burner is so common it's a cliche. Some scopes, particular cheaper ones don't have as much adjustment range as others so they are more prone to barrel droop issues. Regardless of price there's only so much room for adjustment in a 1" tube. Going to a 30mm tube will buy you more adjustment range. I adjust my barrels to the optical center of the scope and buy good scopes and rings. I haven't had a scope failure since I started adjusting the barrels to the scope.
Quote from: Bayman on July 26, 2021, 07:40:33 AMQuote from: Jshooter71 on July 26, 2021, 07:07:37 AMThat is rather disappointing. I’ve not had one fail, even the one that I thought so came back by bringing the elevation back to center. After putting it on a different rifle, it’s been fine.Your scope didn't really come back to life as much the next gun didn't have droop or as much as the first gun it was on. Any scope when run at the maximum adjustment in any plane is likely to not hold zero. Technically that scope did not fail. The fault lied in way it was mounted and really more so the gun itself. Supposedly dead airgun scopes that work fine when moved to a powder burner is so common it's a cliche. Some scopes, particular cheaper ones don't have as much adjustment range as others so they are more prone to barrel droop issues. Regardless of price there's only so much room for adjustment in a 1" tube. Going to a 30mm tube will buy you more adjustment range. I adjust my barrels to the optical center of the scope and buy good scopes and rings. I haven't had a scope failure since I started adjusting the barrels to the scope.That’s precisely what I was saying. That’s exactly what happened to mine, it “failed” because even with a droop compensating rail and extra low rings the elevation adjustment was extreme to achieve zero. But, it didn’t “break”, I was able to bring it back to mechanical zero and get it zero’d on another rifle that already had the same scope on it. The one that came off is waiting on another rifle to call home. . All my scopes, but one are 30mm tubes also, that one was 30mm. The single 1” tube scope I have has held up well on my Walther Terrus, it’s mounted low to the action and was nearly zero’d out of the box.
Quote from: Jshooter71 on July 26, 2021, 07:58:40 AMQuote from: Bayman on July 26, 2021, 07:40:33 AMQuote from: Jshooter71 on July 26, 2021, 07:07:37 AMThat is rather disappointing. I’ve not had one fail, even the one that I thought so came back by bringing the elevation back to center. After putting it on a different rifle, it’s been fine.Your scope didn't really come back to life as much the next gun didn't have droop or as much as the first gun it was on. Any scope when run at the maximum adjustment in any plane is likely to not hold zero. Technically that scope did not fail. The fault lied in way it was mounted and really more so the gun itself. Supposedly dead airgun scopes that work fine when moved to a powder burner is so common it's a cliche. Some scopes, particular cheaper ones don't have as much adjustment range as others so they are more prone to barrel droop issues. Regardless of price there's only so much room for adjustment in a 1" tube. Going to a 30mm tube will buy you more adjustment range. I adjust my barrels to the optical center of the scope and buy good scopes and rings. I haven't had a scope failure since I started adjusting the barrels to the scope.That’s precisely what I was saying. That’s exactly what happened to mine, it “failed” because even with a droop compensating rail and extra low rings the elevation adjustment was extreme to achieve zero. But, it didn’t “break”, I was able to bring it back to mechanical zero and get it zero’d on another rifle that already had the same scope on it. The one that came off is waiting on another rifle to call home. . All my scopes, but one are 30mm tubes also, that one was 30mm. The single 1” tube scope I have has held up well on my Walther Terrus, it’s mounted low to the action and was nearly zero’d out of the box.The twp UTG scopes I have that "failed" were 30mm compact Bugbuster scopes. Glass etched better quality scopes than the cheaper UTG scopes.
UTG with glass reticles are so much better. I have a 4-16 X 56 that was on a NP2 for a while. It now sits on my Synrod. I have a Bushnell AR 3-12 X 40 that was on the NP2 for 25,000 shots with zero problems, that one now sits on my 2400KT. I have a UTG 10 X 50 glass reticle on the NP2 now.
Quote from: mobilehomer on July 26, 2021, 02:04:56 PMUTG with glass reticles are so much better. I have a 4-16 X 56 that was on a NP2 for a while. It now sits on my Synrod. I have a Bushnell AR 3-12 X 40 that was on the NP2 for 25,000 shots with zero problems, that one now sits on my 2400KT. I have a UTG 10 X 50 glass reticle on the NP2 now.The glass reticles are better. Your NP2 probably doesn't suffer from barrel droop and that's why the scopes lived a long happy life on it. Most of the time it's droop that causes scopes to not hold zero or fail.
I tried to fix this one and it was looking good then out of the blue it went back to bad, but like you kinda said I could adjust it back to spot on then after so many shots it would jump off again..Oh well,. I gave it a try and I did like it . Now got to figure what next. Maybe another athlon Talos? Bad thing with it is too heavy. It's the heaviest scope I got .Anyway I'm sure that airmax will serve you well... Good luck
UTG has a good warranty, I don’t want use it. I had a Bugbuster that failed to hold zero within a couple weeks of using it on a pumper.Sent it back to Amazoid and ordered the big UTG 2-16x44. That one lasted several months on my HW95, but then got cloudy. Upon close inspection I saw white powder inside. Sent it to them only to find find they discontinued that model. So I picked the closest thing, 4-16x44 compact swat. Mostly similar scope, just a little smaller. Good image, very clear, hate the MOA reticle. Being shorter, I had to get a new mount, yet the one the reccomended didn’t fit. And it takes a different side wheel. I am done with them.Not long ago I bought an Airmax 4-12x40 AO front focus. What a sweet scope it is. Currently on my HW30. I want another one, likely a 4-16x50.The UTG will go on a powder burner.
I've received a RA# this morning from UTG under warranty. I'm waiting until I can get my receipt printed then I'll package it up and send it off.