Shot my 177 Theoben Sirocco Sunday. 17 ft lb and only 7.5 lbs. I've had it 35 years now and still one of my favorites. All I can say is don't knock rammers until you shoot a Sirocco. Never been rebuilt in 35 years. I don't shoot it as much as I did the first 10 years but when I do I prefer to shoot off hand. Yes, the Anschutz barrel will shoot tiny groups.I made a nice steel trigger guard for it but haven't gotten it blued yet.