My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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stony30
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My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 07, 2017, 11:42:01 PM »
I received this from Mike of Tko22.com today. After talking to him on the phone and discussing some measurements and so forth he designed this ldc for my .177 Bullmaster. It looks great and works even better. I will shoot rounds tomorrow after just dry firing it twice. All that you could hear was literally the action of the rifle and that was it. Its now as quiet as my .25 Gladius on power level 4 which if any of you guys are aware of is really really quiet. Sooo happy now and will do an update tomorrow.
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 08, 2017, 12:43:10 AM »
How long is it? 6" ? Good to hear it does the job well. I have no complaints with any of my TKO LDC's.
BTW, I saw your request and moved it to the Accessory Review gate since you are reviewing the LDC, and not the gun itself.
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 08, 2017, 01:44:56 AM »
Thanks Harry. I'm not so sure that the gun is going to cycle properly at this point. I'guyreachout to Mike at tko22 to see what we'll do to the design if it doesn't. Shorten it or some other change. Not everything works the first time and he nicely offered to take it back w no penalty if it failed before he even sent it. Class guy for sure.
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 08, 2017, 01:13:31 PM »
OK. Thanks for reviewing this LDC! Looks good, so I guess it it a slide on design...I would like to see if the screw on LDC is possible without affecting the proper cycling...will get my rifle tomorrow!
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 08, 2017, 04:52:36 PM »
I am experiencing some failure to cycle at this point. I am wondering if it could be a simple thing where my psi is low at 120 bar. I am filling to max (250 bar) and trying again later today. FYI, I have had about 85 shots from full fill when I received it to now at 120 bar. I but this ldc on at this low psi level. Fingers crossed. I've only shot about a half a dozen times with ldc installed. On another note the rifle does recock after firing but the mag doesn't advance so I wonder if there might be an issue there.
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December 11, 2017, 08:14:00 PM »
So have you figured out what happened? Was it the low pressure or something else?
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stony30
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 11, 2017, 09:14:49 PM »
So I filled to max air fill. Loosened up the mags a little because they seemed really tight and stiff. Shot the rifle and it does
recock but the mag does not advance . I spoke to Mike @ tko22 and I shipped him my rifle so he can mess with it. He had similar issues with his Fix semi auto after he tried to quiet it down. He had luck so I'm hoping he can work his magic on mine. I love it but it is just too LOUD !! 😮
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 12, 2017, 11:45:45 AM »
Did you try to remove the LDC and see if the problem goes away? (Did you try to lube the pellets?) there is something posted on Youtube that resembles your problem...he says Hatsan blamed the pellets...nonetheless, it seems that the magazine design is not very good...anyway, I have received that Youtuber's LDC, will see if I have any issues with the rifle alone, rifle+LDC combo...
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stony30
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 12, 2017, 11:48:25 AM »
It cycled fine without the ldc.
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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December 18, 2017, 01:59:59 PM »
Have you heard from Mike?
Do we know why the LDC prevents the magazine from advancing? Isn't that the mechanical function of the bolt to advance the mag? Does the LDC push air back towards the magazine, and so much that it would prevent it from moving? That's pretty strange but Mike has experienced it before with other guns so it's not a rare phenomenon. I am just trying to understand it from a scientific point of view.
So the mag is getting stuck, obviously, but could it be from pellets in the mag moving slightly in or out preventing the mag from cycling? But then why would the bolt work without advancing the mag? It sounds like something is not right in the design and allows for the mag advance mechanism to slip.
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Hudson Valley, NY
Pro-tuned guns:
AF Condor .25 #1, Condor .25 #2
Condor .22, Marauder .25, Disco .22 camo
RWS Diana 350 .22, RWS Diana 48 .22,
RWS 34K .20 Premium #17 of 30 custom built by Diana
RWS Diana 36 .177 (Gene & Bob tuned)
Factory stock & home tuned:
Benji Akela .22 bullpup
Gauntlet .22, Disco .22 #2,
Fortitude .22, Prod .22
RWS 350 .177, RWS 5G .177
Hammerli 850 .22, Crosman 2240KT
Remington NPSS .22, Umarex M&P 45
Crosman 66, Crosman 760, Beeman P17
Crosman Air17, Crosman 38T
Several other Umarex & Crosman CO2 pistols
stony30
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December 18, 2017, 02:16:12 PM »
I will let you know. Busy with important family holiday stuff.
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Rob M
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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January 14, 2018, 10:32:46 AM »
any update on the bullmaster working normally ?
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stony30
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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January 14, 2018, 02:51:40 PM »
Sent it to Mike at tko22 so he could check it out.. The rifle would not cycle consistently. Sent it back to Pyramydair and received a full refund. Disappointed
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Rob M
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Re: My new Hatsan Bullmaster Ldc ... Rocks !!! quietly 😀
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January 14, 2018, 03:07:23 PM »
wow, so it was the gun not the ldc I guess.
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stony30
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January 14, 2018, 03:10:51 PM »
Yup. I made sure to remove the ldc before shipping it back !! Lol
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