Daisy 499 ... no clink! some questions

[desertplinker]

ok I will try to keep this as brief as possible. I had a 499 that I sold in a nine airgun deal. found that I missed shooting it so bought a used one. First thing, the site that came with it, the screws were so stripped out that it was unusable. bought a new one from Daisy, $20.00. mounted the peep site and went to shoot. Cock rifle, place bb down barrel muzzle loader style, no click. the bb was not contacting the magnet? shot at target at five yards, didn't even hit the paper. was shooting a foot low. Cranked the elevation several turns and not helping. Took the shot tube out and cleaned it with alcohol. While the shot tube was out I shined a light down the gun and a little spot about the color of a silver bb was out of center, magnet? I've never taken any Daisy gun apart and don't know what is going on down inside the gun. As one can imagine I am very disappointed. At this point I am very tempted to just buy a brand new one. the wood and metal are perfect except the wood below where the rear site elevation screw has a dent like someone adjusted the screw until it made a mark in the wood. 

[happymecanic]

Hi Steve,

Your issue got me curious, so I took the shot tube out of my own 499B to have  a look (see picture, hope it's clear enough). I too saw an off-center shiny spot down there, but with mine you clearly hear the ''clink!'' sound, and the gun shoots very well.

Have you tried dropping a bb in the shot tube while it was out? Maybe there's a tight spot in it? It doesn't take much of a restriction to jam a bb, as these shot tubes are pretty tight for accuracy.

It's also possible that the bb doesn't contact the magnet, manufacturing defects do happen unfortunately. If the shot tube is good, maybe a tear-down is in order.

[desertplinker]

Hi Steve,

Your issue got me curious, so I took the shot tube out of my own 499B to have  a look (see picture, hope it's clear enough). I too saw an off-center shiny spot down there, but with mine you clearly hear the ''clink!'' sound, and the gun shoots very well.

Have you tried dropping a bb in the shot tube while it was out? Maybe there's a tight spot in it? It doesn't take much of a restriction to jam a bb, as these shot tubes are pretty tight for accuracy.

It's also possible that the bb doesn't contact the magnet, manufacturing defects do happen unfortunately. If the shot tube is good, maybe a tear-down is in order.

thanks. what I see in your photo looks more centered to me. mine is definitely off center. Dropped a bb down shot tube out of gun and slid right through no problem. no tear down for me, at 76 years old don't really care to work on airguns much anymore.

[happymecanic]

Hi Steve,

Your issue got me curious, so I took the shot tube out of my own 499B to have  a look (see picture, hope it's clear enough). I too saw an off-center shiny spot down there, but with mine you clearly hear the ''clink!'' sound, and the gun shoots very well.

Have you tried dropping a bb in the shot tube while it was out? Maybe there's a tight spot in it? It doesn't take much of a restriction to jam a bb, as these shot tubes are pretty tight for accuracy.

It's also possible that the bb doesn't contact the magnet, manufacturing defects do happen unfortunately. If the shot tube is good, maybe a tear-down is in order.

thanks. what I see in your photo looks more centered to me. mine is definitely off center. Dropped a bb down shot tube out of gun and slid right through no problem. no tear down for me, at 76 years old don't really care to work on airguns much anymore.

Sorry to hear about that. Wish you good luck in solving your issue.

[desertplinker]

I got burned on buying a used 499, my bad. To remedy the situation, I ordered a brand new one, hoping it arrives today. Then I will get it sighted in and have a bb shoot off all for fun, with my 499, I have a RR and a Daisy 35 which is very accurate with bbs at two pumps. Keeping the bad used one as the wood and metal are near perfect.

[bantam5s]

I got burned on buying a used 499, my bad. To remedy the situation, I ordered a brand new one, hoping it arrives today. Then I will get it sighted in and have a bb shoot off all for fun, with my 499, I have a RR and a Daisy 35 which is very accurate with bbs at two pumps. Keeping the bad used one as the wood and metal are near perfect.

That's a good way to go.

I could be wrong about the possibility of this , but if you can find a junker model 95 you might be able to modify that bad 499 to take a model 25 magazine shot tube.
That would be quite an awesome plinker.

[lillysdad621]

or you can call daisy and order a new tube assembly for the 499... 14$ i think...

[desertplinker]

Yes, I ordered two shot tubes when I had my first 499 that I sold, as it was not very accurate but the new tube did the job for better accuracy. The used one I bought (second one) has a bigger issue than the shot tube. Something is screwed up with the magnet, it's off center. I think someone stuck a rod down there and messed things up. The wood and metal are excellent, but the guts need attention and I'm not up for that. I got the brand new one yesterday, shot it today and all is well. I will get serious about sighting it in tomorrow weather permitting.

[Brazos]

I ordered a new 499 last night and got to watching some YouTube videos about it.  From what I gathered you want to pull the shot tube out of the shroud to clean the barrel.  If you leave the shot tube in the shroud and run a cleaning rod down it you can dislodge the magnet and it’s a pain to get it back in place.  Sounds like maybe that’s your issue.  Don’t have one in my possession yet and far from a 499 expert so could be wrong.

[bantam5s]

Well today I was shooting my 499 and was not getting a click with the BB's but I could tell that the BB's were eventually getting there.

I looked down the tube with my flashlight and saw that somehow the magnet had gotten damaged.
It still retains the BB's perfectly fine but I just don't get that click.
I think for now I will just get a dowel and make a wooden ramrod, then eventually replace this part if necessary.
Truth be told I'd rather use a ramrod anyways because I don't really like waiting for the BB's to roll all the way down the barrel.

[Frank in Fairfield]

The off center hole is indeed the location of the magnet.
It is held there by magnetic force.
The previous owner may have pushed it out of the hole by using a pointed cleaning jag (it happens).
You can buy just the part that includes the magnet and put in the gun and it will be like new.
I think the price of that part is $2.00  S&H (but don’t quote me).
Check the 499b schematic.
BTW that part is held in place only by friction and if you are not careful or if you use a stronger spring, the piston will force hat whole part forward toward the barrel. An indication of this happening is the lowering of speed.
To prevent this from happening:
After you tighten the shot tube down flush with the shroud, it is a good idea to put a layer of tape around the shot tube end and shroud to keep everything in place.