Well I guess I just double checked the squirrel rating. Speak of the devil! Had a nutter eating off my suet feeder on the tree in the back yard. Shot him in the head at about 5.25 fpe. Dropped like a stone! Again I think the numbers are right on for small critters but I can't speak to things like raccoons because I don't shoot those."Mr. Lothar Walther, meet Mr. Squirrel"
i've never understood the point of these charts, if im hunting and see some thing i feel comfortable with shooting at, i shoot it that simple, if i don't think its a good option to use an air rifle, i'll leave and return with a .22lr or a center fire depending on what the critter is and hope it hasn't moved while im getting another gun, and if it has moved....start tracking.
Help me out here I'm a newbie when it comes to FPE. This is probably a stupid question, but with that squirrel kill you got there we're you using a low powered gun and measuring the FPE from the muzzle with a chrony or were you estimating the FPE of when the pellet hit the squirrel?
I love these charts! Why go out and experiment on media at various ranges when you have all of this previously compiled (and completely unvetted) data right there on the lap top? So, who came up with these numbers? What were gun/pellet they shooting? At what range were the game taken? (And, for that question about FPE, it really ought to be at the point of impact, not the muzzle since that is where the damage is done.) The biggest problem with going with the marginal shots, either because you aren't sure you have enough gun and are using the data to justify them or you aren't willing to do the field work, shooting various loads/animals and talking with other hunters to see how they have fared, is that you often end up maiming the game. You might be able to hit President Franklin ten times out of ten seated at the bench with wind flags, but you might completely miss a silver dollar off hand at ten feet. I guess what I'm saying is you have to keep it real and, as Dirty Harry said, "know your limitations". They you can compile your OWN chart.Here's what I really like when it comes to "internet loads", the Gamo and others hunting "wild boar" with their air guns. Ask a lot of powder burner hunters what they consider good for wild boar and you will hear things like .44 Magnum. So, how come they use that when they could just as easily use a .22 Short? I mean, the Short is more powerful than most springers.
I think we need to outlaw the Gamo/PBA/pig video..
That was really more of a joke. I forgot to put a smiley face after it. Actually most of us do not condone this video nor agree with PBA's marketing strategy. To tell all your prospective buyers and current Gamo owners that you can go out and harvest pigs or wild boar with a .177 Springer is ludicrous. The pig in the video was also shot from a few feet away, so that a large portion of the muzzle energy was retained (if in fact it was shot with the gun mentioned). PBA ammo have a poor ballistic coefficient and lose energy (fpe) real fast. Had the same shot been taken from 20yds or even 15yds, that pig would be ripping up roots in someone's field right now.
It would look real, but what does your logic and intuition tell you?
Yea right in an ideal world with a PERFECT fuse box shot !!More unfortunate critters get maimed to crawl elsewhere and suffer or die from such low power shots from dime store power bb guns / air rifles that fall under or at those power levels.Just my opinion, only critters to fall reliably under those power levels are small to med size birds, chipmunks & rats.But then again a lucky or correctly placed shot is like a LIGHTNING bolt even from a bb gun ... go figure.JMO ... nuttin more