you know Tom, out of all the guns i had that one has always eluded me... guess i havent found a decent deal on one yet. I do like its little brother, and i have one tuned to about 18 FPE that anchors squirrels in what they think is the "safe zone". I mostly hunt and pest under 12 fpe, so when the door opens, the critters all move back pass 45 yards... silly squirrels.lol. Maybe its time to find one of this great magnum guns...