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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
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January 28, 2021, 08:52:55 AM »
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BAIKAL-MP-46M-IZH-46-Match-Air-Pistol-Excellent-Comes-with-all-accessories/114654261621?hash=item1ab1ed3175:g:tVwAAOSwLYBgEhw7
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So #80 came back from its trip to be adjusted about a week or so ago. I haven’t had time to post any updates because, well, life is busy.
I had asked them to look at the suspected breech issue (chatter) but nothing was noted. I did get a manual.
After some testing, about 50 rounds, the only pellet I can get to consistently shoot is the lead free daisy pellets I believe I mentioned earlier in this thread. I have several other lead free pellets on hand now and some H&N match green wad cutters (5.25 grain) shoot only after I cock the gun, fire it with no pellet discharge, cock it again- then it will fire. Clearly even with the power adjustment this gun is not right. I’m guessing with the suspected chatter, the breech is not sealing like it should. I did mention earlier in the thread, I’m a lead free basement shooter. I have no interest in a gun that cannot shoot lead free consistently and gives decent group sizes for the distances I’m shooting.
The daisy pellets are giving me about an inch (or so) group at 20 feet (or so). Not acceptable for me- that is using a dot sight mounted on the gun, and using a rest.
I will be contacting PA again to try an exchange. If that replacement doesn’t fly, I’m done with the AV46M and onto an original. I like the look of this model, with the red grip.
For this price point, this gun should more than deliver on expectations.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
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January 28, 2021, 08:00:53 PM »
Gavin,
That is a real bummer. Getting a working replacement, or a used original (like the link two posts up) is a good plan.
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January 31, 2021, 05:13:56 PM »
I finally picked up an IZH 46 M (not the AV). The 46m just does not hang right in my hand compared to my Air Venturi V10 which naturally points almost perfectly for me. That grip is rather funky and I can see I'll be doing some work on it. I think I'll have to make a new grip shelf but that should be easy. The trigger is awesome, much nicer than the V 10. It's certainly more accurate than I am but so is the V10. I've always liked front heavy target pistols so that's another plus. It'll take a while to figure out how much or if it will actually improve my scores. I like the weird appearance of the 46M vs the more conventional look of the V 10.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
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January 31, 2021, 05:49:58 PM »
Congrats on your 46M. You will come to love it.
Comparing a 46M to a V10 is like apples to fish.
The original grip on the 46M is crude by intent. It is oversized to be custom fitted to your own hand at your own discretion.
It is extremely accurate, almost to an Olympic level for it's time period of production.
I have my trigger adjusted to a 0.46oz. level, and that is not a typo. Although way to light for ISSF parameters, it is still a safe level, even without a safety.
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June 22, 2021, 09:23:40 PM »
I just received a new catalog from Pyramyd today. They are still selling the 46M. Is it still the same problematic pistol?
Can the real Baikal 46M still be ordered from Krale? Anyone done this recently? (It isn't in stock right now, but is it orderable?)
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June 22, 2021, 11:30:54 PM »
Bruce,
I bought a Baikal 46M from Krale 2.5 years ago. I know of a few after that. The last airgun I bought from Krale was about a year ago.
You can email Krale about availability, here: info@krale.shop
As for the PA version; in theory these are OK after the compression is reset to spec. There are members here that have both the AV and Baikal/IZZY versions. Their opinions would be most valuable.
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June 23, 2021, 10:49:10 PM »
Signed up for an email from Krale when the Baikal-46M's are back in stock. Did this once before and they did email me. But the timing was bad, and funds weren't available. Stinks when that happens.
Hope the wait isn't too long.
Gee, they are getting pricey. (Still cheaper then the 46M from Pyramyd, so that's not too bad.)
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June 24, 2021, 04:00:34 AM »
I have a classified 46M on order. But reading the topic, though it is not fully clear to me on what is the issue then with the 46M.
The one I have on order has the Baikal brand on the left side of the tube, next to that the model name and then it has a section there that says Importer: Air Venturi.
So should that be a good one then ? or what can be the potential challenge ?
Thanks !
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June 24, 2021, 12:03:51 PM »
Rudy,
What you described is the proper Russian "IZZY", as imported by Air Venturi ten or more years ago. A pistol that has Air Venturi markings, but not also "Baikal" or "Izhmash" would be the recent ones that have not worked properly, right out of the box.
The pistol you are looking to buy might need new seals, starting with the breech seals (very easily replaced). If you have seen a picture of the Baikal name on that pistol and know it is not a picture of another pistol, you should be good to go. Assuming the pistol has not been abused.
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June 24, 2021, 03:54:38 PM »
Great stuff then ! Thanks, appreciate your feedback.
I trust the seller, he even shared proactively his cell phone number for sharing all the details and pictures.
From the pictures I can see that this particular 46M is really as new. According to the seller it was more like a collectors item for him, rather then that he has ever shot with it.
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June 24, 2021, 04:02:14 PM »
Jolly good, Rudy
Perhaps a few drops of oil on the piston seal and cocking hinges and cam, and you are off to the races!
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I just saw this great bargain.
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May 11, 2022, 05:39:22 PM »
Replying to a an old thread. I thought with the current situation I would go ahead and pick up a 46M while they are still available. Mine came in from Pyramid today, and I lubed the breech seals with a little silicone, and pivots on cocking mechanism with some mobil 1 and went out to try it before it got too warm. I'm impressed right out of the box. Using a rest and shooting at a 50 foot pistol target at 10 meters, using a 6 o'clock hold it was right at the top of the black, so a bit of down adjustment. I did not want to go to the trouble of setting up a spotting scope so just shot two shot groups between adjustments an got it to the center of the bull. My eyes are not the best, but I was getting one ragged hole groups for the most part. I did order a trigger upgrade, strange that if you order and add yourself it's $30, and installed by Pyramid or the factory it was I think $70 more, so no brainer. I like the way it pivots to fit the finger, reminds me of my FWB 300. I may end up doing a little modification on the grip, mostly rounding some of the sharper corners, and possibly the bottom edge of the trigger guard which seems a little sharp. I hate to go filing on the metal, but suppose a dab of touch up blue will take care of that. I need to figure out how to remove the grip before doing anything as I do not wish to get any wood shavings or sawdust in the trigger.
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May 12, 2022, 12:18:33 AM »
Yea .. just seeing this thread for the first time. yes as Frank has mentioned i have had an original BAIKAL 46 for years now. The FONT that precedes the serial # is RUSSIAN with caricature I can't read
Cocking arm is straight past contact point forward of trigger guard. Crown at muzzle a deep cone, smooth and chatterless. Also imported via EAA Corp Cocoa, FL Have original box, spares, different sight blades, tools, instructions ( 1 in USA text 1 in Russian text ), cleaning jag rod. Thanks to frank a few years ago, added a scope rail for a red dot sight, very slightly massaged corners of grips lower shelf for my big paws and installed a MAC 1 updated valve kit.
Russian Manual dated 1991 / certification dated 1998
Pistol has been shot some, shoots fine still and @ 99% cosmetically perfect. Pretty much a safe queen now dayz.
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Scott,
The next time I come to visit the IZZY is coming too.
We can shoot some..
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Quote from: 7624452 on August 27, 2021, 11:34:07 PM
I just saw this great bargain.
I actually bought this pistol. I suppose the original high price was a mistake. It was re-listed and I got it for a reasonable price. Works perfectly and I have not had any problems with it. It is currently my favorite pistol.
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WOW ... low serial # on that one !!
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