How heavy are the pellets your talking about and how far you wanting to shoot them?
You can't go wrong with a Benjamin Trail Xl. But the XL has a lot of power tus a lot of recoil, so it takes some getting used to, if you don't want to take as long to get used to shooting it, go for a Trail all wheather or hardwood, or a Benjamin Titan. You also can't go wrong with a Crosman Nitro Venom.
Quote from: Nate the airgunner on August 30, 2012, 11:46:38 PMYou can't go wrong with a Benjamin Trail Xl. But the XL has a lot of power tus a lot of recoil, so it takes some getting used to, if you don't want to take as long to get used to shooting it, go for a Trail all wheather or hardwood, or a Benjamin Titan. You also can't go wrong with a Crosman Nitro Venom.I disagree, the triggers on these Trail XL`s really not so good compared to the Rekord on your HW50s and power is nothing without proper shot placement, IMHO VAFarmer is right, you should have a think about moving up to a R9/HW95K ; they are pricey but you get what you pay for these days !!.Take careKenny
If Benjamin would make an underlever with the Nitro Piston.... Something where the barrel doesn't move... Now that would be something sweet.
I can't believe no one's recommended the HW90! Same Weirauch worksmanship as your HW50, but with a Theoben gas ram instead of a steel spring. Perfect match for the heavy lead. A hair over 20 fpe, and some claim as much as 24 or 25 fpe from theirs. I think this is exactly the gun you are looking for. EXPENSIVE though, but in comparison to the rest of the Theoben guns it is a mega-bargain!
Quote from: Bryan on September 02, 2012, 09:53:26 AMI can't believe no one's recommended the HW90! Same Weirauch worksmanship as your HW50, but with a Theoben gas ram instead of a steel spring. Perfect match for the heavy lead. A hair over 20 fpe, and some claim as much as 24 or 25 fpe from theirs. I think this is exactly the gun you are looking for. EXPENSIVE though, but in comparison to the rest of the Theoben guns it is a mega-bargain!I can't either. Mine loves H&N Field Target 24.38 gr.
Quote from: 1nmartin on September 02, 2012, 02:30:23 AMIf Benjamin would make an underlever with the Nitro Piston.... Something where the barrel doesn't move... Now that would be something sweet.That's what I'm waiting for. An cheap gas rammed fixed barrel gun.
The Crosman Nitro Piston is an awesome thing... shoots smoothly. very quiet. extremely nice.The problem is the gun.... Crosmans breakbarrels just aren't that accurate. I had the Benji Titan GP and accuracy was OK for about 500 shots. After that it went bad.My buddy bought the Trail NP .22 He basically had the same problem as my Titan did. Well...Chinese or not, if a gun shoots good for 500 rounds and all of a sudden goes "bad", ain't the gun. Something has changed. Like a nick on the barrel crown, or some one cleans the gun and scratches the rifling, or damage to the breech, or loose screws, or amatuer gunsmithing, or something. Dunno what happened, but barrel lockups don't go bad in 500 rounds. Not even on the worst of Chinese guns. I have had/have many Chinese guns and shoot some where in the neighborhood of 50 - 100k rounds per year. NEVER had a gun shoot good for 500 rounds and then all of a sudden go "bad". In fact have had many guns improve after a break in of couple hundred to 1000 rounds and velocity improve and accuracy gets better. Some don't. IF a gun don't shoot good after 200 rounds it gets returned for a refund or exchange. Many do, both American and Chinese made. Never had to return a German made gun.I own a Titan GP. Was a refurb, shoots great! Around 1000 rounds through it. Wonderful accuracy, velocity has settled at about 700 fps with 14.3 gr chp. My brother has a Benjamin Trail XL, same basic gun, just fancier, and it shot terrible at first. After a lot of detective work, discovered he put pell gun oil in the chamber. Told him u can't do that, need to use silicone chamber oil. He purchased some, put it in the chamber, let it set several days, and after 100 - 200 rounds, the gun settled down and now shoots great. He is getting about 730 fps with same pellet and both will group 1" from a rest at 50 yards on a calm day. Before the silicone chamber oil, shot spreads were as great as 350 fps over 10 shots. Now he gets spreads from 5 - 20 fps depending on the pellet.