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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Bargain Gate => Topic started by: Mudbugmitch on August 10, 2018, 06:00:07 PM
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I ordered 8 tins of pellets from Amazon. They came in today. The package that contained them was damaged, it had been retaped (poorly), it was dropped off at my local PO for delivery. There was NO peanuts, wrap, foam, of any other type of cushioning in the box. Just the pellets. Which had been bounced around from Lexington, KY to Decatur, MS. All of the packaging on the pellets were beaten to *(&^. I called customer service immediately. The rep I got assured me that isn't how things are meant to ship. They will replace the entire order and give me 1 day shipping. BIG HAIRY DEAL ! This is Friday. 1 day shipping will be Monday. Then I still have to print out a return shipping label and drive 15 miles to drop off their package. SUCH A DEAL I guess this one shows, you get what you pay for.
Mitch
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I had a similar experience recently with Amazon. Only after going through the irritation did I think to do a search here on GTA. Apparently Amazon has shipped pellets this way for quite a while and has no intention of changing their behavior. Pyramid Air is a good alternative, with their 4 for 3 deal.
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Your grousing may be premature. You haven't seen the replacement pellets yet.
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i knew the topic would be pellets before opening the thread. Amazon has been incompetently packing pellets for many years now so unfortunately there is no reason to expect them to ever change. Of the myriad of things we buy from Amazon, nothing else comes close. One could be forgiven for thinking it is deliberate.
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Yeah this subject has been hashed & rehashed many times.
Bottom line: Do Not Buy Pellets Through Amazon!
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Triener Sports in Wisconsin does a good job of packing their pellets and other air gun related items, IMO just as good if not better than Pyramid Air. Though PA gets then here a little faster due to shorter shipping route than what it takes T S's shippers route to get to me in WI it has to go through 3 states to get back to me in North East WI ::)
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Since P/A started using the hard foam molded around the tins 10 years ago, I have never ordered pellets from anywhere else. It's not worth the hassle for me.
I had so many damaged tins ordering from others online to save 1 or 2 bucks or get that free shipping it wasn't funny. P/A was actually one of the biggest culprits. 2 out of 3 orders from P/A were severely damaged with pellets spilled inside the box, before they started using the current method with the hard foam to protect them. Now it's guaranteed I get undamaged tins from P/A and have not worried about it in 10 years. Why order from anywhere else? Sure P/A's prices are a bit inflated, but with the 4th tin free, the prices are pretty reasonable IMO.
Harry
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Sucky packaging plus $9.00 MORE for a tin of 500 (as compared to Pyramyd Air) - Oh, yeah, I am going to be placing an order through Amazon today. NOT!
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i knew the topic would be pellets before opening the thread.
Ditto...
The only time I have gotten pellets from Amazon is when Air Venturi was the 3rd party seller. Packaged and shipped just like PA... because ... well.... PA is Air Venturi.
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I found out amazon was not the place to buy.
I shoot cheap Crosman .22 14.3gr. pellets from Walmart.
$5.82 per 500 ct.
I have a Walmart within 1 mile drive of my house.
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Sucky packaging plus $9.00 MORE for a tin of 500 (as compared to Pyramyd Air) - Oh, yeah, I am going to be placing an order through Amazon today. NOT!
D'oh! Pellets incoming from Amazon. Seemed like a good idea at the time. :-[
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When ever I see what I think is a good deal on Amazon many times I am able to find a better deal yet but not always.
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I found out amazon was not the place to buy.
I shoot cheap Crosman .22 14.3gr. pellets from Walmart.
$5.82 per 500 ct.
I have a Walmart within 1 mile drive of my house.
Same here. I have a good stash of the Crosman 14.3 CPHP tins which I always get at WM when they are on sale for $5.8x which is most of the time. Used to get them for $5.27 a few years ago. They only shoot good in a couple of my CO2's so I rely on P/A for JSB and H&N.
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Just to go one further.... don't order from Walmart either.
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Yeah, I ordered the Crosman Premier Dome Pellets in the box from Walmart some years back. Some of the pellets were in the little box and some of the pellets were in the BIG box. Not a good experience!
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In my experience, Amazon shipping is almost always like this, I have a prime membership, but I refuse to order anything that is breakable from amazon. Pellet guns, no way; pellets, maybe but only if they are crosman or cheaper hard alloy pellets.
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Not airgun related but I've had a few bad experiences with Amazon shipping lately, with various outcomes.
1. I ordered some cat litter and it came with a ripped bag in a damaged box. They sent out another bag no questions asked and I ended up with probably 85% of a bag free.
2&3. I ordered a car air filter and a 32gb USB flash drive.
First order: Filter and drive arrive, filter is the wrong part and was shipped with a label slapped on the bare, thin filter box. No external packing. The USB drive came in a bubble pack envelope but had been crushed somewhere along the way so that it couldn't be inserted into a computer. It probably still worked fine but the business end was crushed and I did feel like fixing a brand new item.
Second order: Exact repeat. Ordered the same filter and flash drive, got the same (wrong) filter and an even worse flash drive.
it's also 15 miles round trip for me to drop off at a UPS pickup and, my own fault, I missed the deadline to return the first order. Oh well, the filter was only $8 and I was able to bend the USB into a useable shape so that wasn't really a loss. But, get this, I finally got credited for the 2nd order and they tried to short me on the air filter because it was beat up! I got the thing shipped bare and sent it back in a box with packing material, no way was I taking a loss on that. I ended up getting a free 1 month extension on my Prime as compensation.
I've been buying from Amazon for more than 20 years now and CS seems to really be going downhill lately. Hard to blame it on the shippers who don't even have time for a pee break though.
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The cat kills the rats when you cannot shoot them, and the flash drive is used to upload the pics to the forum, your post is airgun related
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I've been buying from Amazon since the early 90s, and I've been a Prime member for 3 years. You tend to buy a lot of stuff when you have 3 kids, so that Prime membership fee pays for itself, in my household. While I agree that their package protection is lack luster, I've never had anything arrived damaged, nor anything wrong items sent to me. The few times I sent things back, it was as easy as can be. That said, I don't order pellets through them: 1) I know how they pack stuff 2) With PA/AGD "buy 4, get 1 free" + the GTA-PA 10% discount code, I can get just a good a deal, if not better through PA/AGD. I also would hesitate to order anything delicate/fragile through Amazon.......but, their simple, no-hassle return/exchange policy encourages me to buy, with complete confidence.
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I have had both good and bad luck ordering pellets from Amazon. I have found that if you order the "Fulfilled by Amazon" pellets the packaging is horrible, but if you order from one of their vendors, you sometimes get lucky! Examples are below, the tins were fulfilled by Amazon, the boxes were from a vendor...
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I've ordered several airguns from them and never had a problem. Just make sure you put a check in the box during checkout that asks "Is this a gift?" and they double box it before shipping.
Pellets?? I have but only a couple times and only the ones I know come carded with the clear protectors. It's just easier to buy through PA or AGD, get the Buy 3 Get 1 free deal and know they'll get here undamaged.
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I've been buying from Amazon since the early 90s, and I've been a Prime member for 3 years. You tend to buy a lot of stuff when you have 3 kids, so that Prime membership fee pays for itself, in my household. While I agree that their package protection is lack luster, I've never had anything arrived damaged, nor anything wrong items sent to me. The few times I sent things back, it was as easy as can be. That said, I don't order pellets through them: 1) I know how they pack stuff 2) With PA/AGD "buy 4, get 1 free" + the GTA-PA 10% discount code, I can get just a good a deal, if not better through PA/AGD. I also would hesitate to order anything delicate/fragile through Amazon.......but, their simple, no-hassle return/exchange policy encourages me to buy, with complete confidence.
I've missed that 10% discount code, could you share?
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I've been buying from Amazon since the early 90s, and I've been a Prime member for 3 years. You tend to buy a lot of stuff when you have 3 kids, so that Prime membership fee pays for itself, in my household. While I agree that their package protection is lack luster, I've never had anything arrived damaged, nor anything wrong items sent to me. The few times I sent things back, it was as easy as can be. That said, I don't order pellets through them: 1) I know how they pack stuff 2) With PA/AGD "buy 4, get 1 free" + the GTA-PA 10% discount code, I can get just a good a deal, if not better through PA/AGD. I also would hesitate to order anything delicate/fragile through Amazon.......but, their simple, no-hassle return/exchange policy encourages me to buy, with complete confidence.
I've missed that 10% discount code, could you share?
gateway-pyramyd
Good any time!
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I've been buying from Amazon since the early 90s, and I've been a Prime member for 3 years. You tend to buy a lot of stuff when you have 3 kids, so that Prime membership fee pays for itself, in my household. While I agree that their package protection is lack luster, I've never had anything arrived damaged, nor anything wrong items sent to me. The few times I sent things back, it was as easy as can be. That said, I don't order pellets through them: 1) I know how they pack stuff 2) With PA/AGD "buy 4, get 1 free" + the GTA-PA 10% discount code, I can get just a good a deal, if not better through PA/AGD. I also would hesitate to order anything delicate/fragile through Amazon.......but, their simple, no-hassle return/exchange policy encourages me to buy, with complete confidence.
I've missed that 10% discount code, could you share?
gateway-pyramyd
Good any time!
easy to remember! Dang, I wish I knew when I ordered my last batch of pellets... next time!
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I've missed that 10% discount code, could you share?
gateway-pyramyd
Good any time!
This is what I love about this group! 2nd time you've saved me money on an item. Thanks you guys :-)
just placed a jumbo order at PA
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I've missed that 10% discount code, could you share?
gateway-pyramyd
Good any time!
This is what I love about this group! 2nd time you've saved me money on an item. Thanks you guys :-)
just placed a jumbo order at PA
Glad to be an enabler helper!
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By the way I've contacted Amazon and gave them the link for this thread. They told me the concern and shipping department will look into this problem and they will come back to me with an answer.
Have anyone done that before? I hope they really care about the Airgun community and fix this problem once and for all.
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By the way I've contacted Amazon and gave them the link for this thread. They told me the concern and shipping department will look into this problem and they will come back to me with an answer.
Have anyone done that before? I hope they really care about the Airgun community and fix this problem once and for all.
It be nice if they could do something about it, like fine companies that shop a fragile object in a way that it will inherently break. I know they typically stand behind a customer when damage is evident and send a new product, but when it’s a gift or something it could come a little too late and still be shipped in the same manner as the previous product. Plus there’s the whole returning stuff hassle. Call me lazy, but I hate having to return something when it’s shipped to me lol
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By the way I've contacted Amazon and gave them the link for this thread. They told me the concern and shipping department will look into this problem and they will come back to me with an answer.
Have anyone done that before? I hope they really care about the Airgun community and fix this problem once and for all.
Erlis, please don't hold your breath while waiting for this to happen. We would hate to lose you. Hee hee
Seriously, it would be great if they would be able to make improvements in their shipping practices. My Judy and I really like ordering from Amazon, because there is a giant facility about 20 miles from our place. Stuff come to our door quick.
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Just to go one further.... don't order from Walmart either.
Yes, only walk-in/at your local store, otherwise you will get the same dented tins, or worse.
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By the way I've contacted Amazon and gave them the link for this thread. They told me the concern and shipping department will look into this problem and they will come back to me with an answer.
Have anyone done that before? I hope they really care about the Airgun community and fix this problem once and for all.
Erlis, please don't hold your breath while waiting for this to happen. We would hate to lose you. Hee hee
Seriously, it would be great if they would be able to make improvements in their shipping practices. My Judy and I really like ordering from Amazon, because there is a giant facility about 20 miles from our place. Stuff come to our door quick.
;D ;D
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There are a lot of news reports of Amazon employees being forced to work at an unreasonable pace, with only 1.5-minute bathroom breaks, and extremely low pay.
I'm hoping that PA treats their employees better as most of my airgun-related purchases will be made through them from now on.
-Whirly
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By the way I've contacted Amazon and gave them the link for this thread. They told me the concern and shipping department will look into this problem and they will come back to me with an answer.
Have anyone done that before? I hope they really care about the Airgun community and fix this problem once and for all.
I am calling "Balderdash" on Amazon... They don't give a rats patoot and will never read this thread. Let alone try to change.
They make millions of dollars on other items to be the least bit concerned with our little niche.
Amazon, if you really care about your customers, let alone us Prime members, PROVE ME WRONG!
Might as well put a message in a bottle and toss it into the ocean.
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I think that the big difference is that PA is 'small enough' that they still use human beings. I've seen mind blowing articles on the level of automation that is used at Amazon.
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVCGEmkJs0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVCGEmkJs0)
might be that the wrapping differences you're looking at are automation vs human handling.
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I saw six (6) humans. Those must be some lonely people!
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I saw six (6) humans. Those must be some lonely people!
Nah, that's 5 too many for me personally ;D
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I think that the big difference is that PA is 'small enough' that they still use human beings. I've seen mind blowing articles on the level of automation that is used at Amazon.
Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVCGEmkJs0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVCGEmkJs0)
might be that the wrapping differences you're looking at are automation vs human handling.
The difference is that Pyramyd Air folks are airgun folks just like you and I.
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but I think the problem with Amazon and the pellets is during the shipping not when the product is in their hands. They do a poor packaging that doesn't survive the abuse during shipping.
I've ordered fragile stuff from Amazon (light bulbs, tableware, etc) and always arrived in perfect condition, the difference? The package was done properly for the item in the interior. With pellets I got the tins floating in the small box, if you order more than one they will beat each other. If they just wrap the tins around their huge bubble wraps they will arrive fine.
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but I think the problem with Amazon and the pellets is during the shipping not when the product is in their hands. They do a poor packaging that doesn't survive the abuse during shipping.
I've ordered fragile stuff from Amazon (light bulbs, tableware, etc) and always arrived in perfect condition, the difference? The package was done properly for the item in the interior. With pellets I got the tins floating in the small box, if you order more than one they will beat each other. If they just wrap the tins around their huge bubble wraps they will arrive fine.
Non air gun people are just not going to know that pellets can get easily damaged and become essentially useless.
We all blame the packers and shippers, but shouldn't the pellet manufacturer gets just as much of the blame for inadequate protection? Best example would be the Crosman brown boxes.
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... on the other hand...
I'm sure Amazon folks eat eggs but I would't order any from them.
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... on the other hand...
I'm sure Amazon folks eat eggs but I would't order any from them.
Then on the third hand....
So does PA employees, but I wouldn't order eggs from them either.
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Really? Eggs make awesome reactive targets.
Speaking of Amazon...
FedEx will be delivering the portable stand for the flat top grill today. The canvas cover was delayed. No ship date on that yet.
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Really? Eggs make awesome reactive targets.
:o sacrilege!!!
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Bill, you had better get some crutches for "Mr. Blackstone"; because he will likely arrive with a broken leg or three. Hee hee
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Apologies Harry...
:P
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Mike, you know she is younger than your kids right? :)
Let's try to keep the commentary appropriate for a family forum that the GTA is.
Thanks,
Harry
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Now I gotta watch the video...
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well... will wonders never cease.
So.. I get a package of pellets today.. from Amazon... and they're packed in a 'heavy envelope'. Not even padded. Now, this thread was funny, until it happened to ME, right?!
I opened the tins (couple of tins of Baracuda Hunter Extreme Hollowpoint Airgun Pellets .22 / 19.09 Grains ) and 'whew'.. they actually looked fine. BUT, I do remember a previous order of JB heavy's that didn't fare so well... so I called amazon to report the packaging problem.
They were -so- nice about it. They listened as I explained the fragile nature of soft lead pellets... and 'an envelope' was not going to cut it, etc.
In the end, she looked up my previous order and refunded half the money, then she made a note on my account that next time I order this item it is to be fully boxed, and lastly she sent an email to the Fullfillment department supervisor memorializing our conversation.
Well, even if they didn't ... she made me feel listened to.
Let's see if anything comes of it.
Mike
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On the other hand I received my first shipment of .25 from PA and I was amazed on the effort put on the package. I really doubt Amazon could get close to that.
Hmmm I’m paying the premium from now on....
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With the "buy 3 and get one free", free shipping on orders over a set price and discount codes, it's hardly a "premium price". Just a great deal with excellent packaging.
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Guess I dodged a pellet--my Amazon pellets arrived packed ok (surrounded by air bags) and the pellets look fine.
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Guess I dodged a pellet--my Amazon pellets arrived packed ok (surrounded by air bags) and the pellets look fine.
I hear you, but the key is the free shipping, I'll have to wait and do bigger purchases to get it. The package is amazing, I saved the box as it came to store the tins I'm not using at the moment.
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I just make it a point not to order pellets online if at all possible. Whenever something new hits the shelf near me, I try it out. So far it is working out pretty good. My 397 will hold a half an inch or better at 18 yards with the crosman copper magnum 10.6, and with pirhanas it will almost do the same with 1 or 2 flyers that open it up to about an inch every ten shots or so. Every time I see another pellet I give them a try.
I have to order my .25 pellets online, so I stick to Pyramyd Air, if nothing else just because I know they will make the trip in good shape. Pyramyd Air has never let me down shipping pellets.
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Drove to my corner Walmart and bought four 500 count tins of crosman 14.3gr. pellets for $5.82 per tin.
Starting shooting the first tin this morning all are perfect, no problems and No Amazon.
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Dennis it is nice when you get one that shoots the pellets off the Walmart shelf well. I have a couple.
But unfortunately others are not so lucky with their guns favorite diet. :P
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I need to pay a visit to Wally World, having been there for a while. Do you know if they have .25 cal?
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I haven't seen any .25 ammo on the shelf of a store anywhere. I buy all my .25 ammo at Pyramyd. I have made my last tin of Kings last over a year, haha. It is actually a mixture of two tins. They shoot so well in my XS28M that I can see the difference between the poi between the two different tins. You can tell which tin they came from by looking in the back of the skirts. Two lots of pellets, two slight variations.
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I need to pay a visit to Wally World, having been there for a while. Do you know if they have .25 cal?
I live within 30min from 5 WM, and none of them carry .25. Plus what they do have are either pointed tips or hollow points, never domes.
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my AA TX 200 loves the CPHP and I have to order soon, so it looks like I'll paying a visit in the near future
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I need to pay a visit to Wally World, having been there for a while. Do you know if they have .25 cal?
I live within 30min from 5 WM, and none of them carry .25. Plus what they do have are either pointed tips or hollow points, never domes.
^ this here as well...
Oh but they do have Red Rire's and Gamo junk. ::)
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Dennis it is nice when you get one that shoots the pellets off the Walmart shelf well. I have a couple.
But unfortunately others are not so lucky with their guns favorite diet. :P
Yes, I am lucky to have two Crosman barrels that shoot the Crosman pellets.
I also have a Blue and Silver Sheridan, but I do not shoot them as much.
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Ya ain't gonna find .20's for your 'Dans at Wal-mart.... without special ordering on Walmart.com ship to store.
At least not here. :-[
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They fall for the marketing just like the customers do. Just like they replaced the cpum with the pirhanas- they know it will sell. People just don't know, unless they surf the forums.
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I love amazon but I learned real quick not to order pellets from them...
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Well, after the second set came in, in worse condition than the first. I was back on the phone with them, got a rep. From India, I am sure. Nice fellow, told me to return the first with supplied label, and to keep the second package, free, no return refund, he called it. SWEEEET !! He credited my account and threw in another $10. I picked through all the pellets, picked the least damaged packages and returned the rest. Used my refund to buy a couple of the cheap 3-9x32 scopes plus rings. I ordered those as gifts, funny thing, they came in in perfect condition. Still came by Fedex (the animals).
Anyone remember the old American Tourister commercial about baggage handlers ? With the gorilla tossing the suitcase around ? I'm not sure , but maybe he changed jobs.
Needless to say, I will never buy pellets from them again.
Mitch
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the gorillas :) that reminds me this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3SRG7D21Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM3SRG7D21Y)