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Title: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 01, 2019, 11:42:07 AM
I got my first springer air rifle about two months ago and have been interested in getting more. I just now have an addiction to air guns and keep wanting to learn more about them. I have had my eye on the hatsan 95 and have been looking around for a good deal on one. I have also heard great things and very bad things about the mod 95, which ones are true? I was able to find the hatsan 95 refurbished on the hatsanusa website for 99 dollars. Is this deal even worth looking at or should I just walkaway from the hatsan 95? Thank you very much for your input.


with shipping it is 110.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: AGEnthused2 on February 01, 2019, 11:59:46 AM
I have purchased several Hatsan break barrels and one under lever.
Most of mine are the gas ram/ vortex models, and so far they have been nice. They settle down much quicker than the spring versions of Hatsans air rifles.
I have two model 95 Airguns, one is a regular vortex and the other is the QE.
For scopes I use utg or hammers, though I have a Tasco 2.5-10 varmint on my non-QE mod 95.
As far as issues on the Airguns I own, I have made sure all th screws are tight, and I have used dental floss under the Breech seals.
I’m not the most handy when it comes to anything. So I have mainly done simple things with my hatsans and been patient with them.
If you get a good rifle from Hatsan then you shouldn’t have too many issues outside of screws becoming loose.
But my experience has been mostly good.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Novagun on February 01, 2019, 06:13:53 PM
Hatsans are fundamentally good rifles but the three that I have had all needed substantial modification to get them to an acceptable standard.
I would say they are a good buy for someone prepared to work on them.
They can be harsh shooters.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Back_Roads on February 01, 2019, 06:59:15 PM
 Hatsan 95 is a nice rifle I have gotten several Hatsans from Field Supply.
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/rifles.html?dir=asc&order=price (https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/rifles.html?dir=asc&order=price)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Phoebe on February 01, 2019, 07:20:54 PM
I've had a .22 95 Vortex QE for 6 or so months and I just love it. I unknowingly dry fired it half a dozen times when I got it, but 3,500+ rounds later it's still functions consistently and accurately. Of course I check/tighten screws pretty much every other session, but that's a given with a springer.

I admit the disparity among reviews is kind of weird, but I'd honestly give mine 5 stars.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 01, 2019, 08:15:16 PM
What type of accuracy are we looking at. I have a gamo that I can consistently shoot a quarter size and even dime size group at 30 yards. I am looking for better accuracy not out of the box, but maybe with a little tinkering. I have not really read about any group sizes on here and I am just wondering what is to be expected of the hatsan 95.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Back_Roads on February 01, 2019, 08:22:41 PM
 Quarters and dimes across the board with all the hatsan break barrels that I have bought. List 125 .25, 135 .177, 95 .22, striker.25
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 01, 2019, 10:43:35 PM
Backroads, what distance were you shooting at. I am mostly looking for dime size at around 30 to 40 yards. Is that achievable?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Yogi on February 02, 2019, 12:54:36 AM
Backroads, what distance were you shooting at. I am mostly looking for dime size at around 30 to 40 yards. Is that achievable?

In the right hands, yes very achievable.  ;D
Now whether those hands are yours is up to you. 8)
Springers are not easy to shoot well, that is why they are so much fun. ;)

-Y
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 02, 2019, 03:08:43 AM
What type of accuracy are we looking at. I have a gamo that I can consistently shoot a quarter size and even dime size group at 30 yards. I am looking for better accuracy not out of the box, but maybe with a little tinkering. I have not really read about any group sizes on here and I am just wondering what is to be expected of the hatsan 95.

Which Gamo rifle do you have?

I have a refurb Hatsan Mod95 V QE 22 which I think is one my best break-barrels. I might be able to group 1" at 30 yards on a good day.

Consistent dime size or smaller groups at 30-40 Yards with a break-barrel springer is VERY good. This is  heading into PCP territory.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 02, 2019, 10:33:12 AM
My rifle is a shadow whisper that I was able to pick up at Walmart for 99 dollars. It is the same thing as the silent cat. I lubed and did a light tune if you want to call it that by myself and was able to knock the groups down from around an inch and a half at 30 yards to about a dime every time. I would love another springer to work on and I think the hatsan 95 is it.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 02, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
The brand name is gamo. ^^^^^^
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Back_Roads on February 02, 2019, 10:36:08 AM
Backroads, what distance were you shooting at. I am mostly looking for dime size at around 30 to 40 yards. Is that achievable?

In the right hands, yes very achievable.  ;D
Now whether those hands are yours is up to you. 8)
Springers are not easy to shoot well, that is why they are so much fun. ;)

-Y

 Yes I was staying with the yardage you were referring to , my actual home range is 35 yards.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 02, 2019, 11:26:56 AM
I am one of the unlucky ones who got a lemon. 25% low FPS and Grinding on cocking. Promptly returned it to PA no questions asked.
It can happen whether you're buying airguns, electronics, or automobiles.
 Hope if you get a refurb it's not that one.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 02, 2019, 12:12:56 PM
I have had my eye on the hatsan 95 and have been looking around for a good deal on one. I have also heard great things and very bad things about the mod 95, which ones are true?

Hatsans are fundamentally good rifles but the three that I have had all needed substantial modification to get them to an acceptable standard.
I would say they are a good buy for someone prepared to work on them.
They can be harsh shooters.

Hey Jord99999,
I would agree with Novagun 100% ;).
I say this as I've tuned at least 12 Hatsan 95s, 135s and 1000Xs.  I tune every gun I buy .... that's my compulsion, but all Hatsans need a tremendous amount of work polishing internals and re-working the trigger to make them shine.  Some come with absolutely beautiful, Walnut stocks, so they're a great looking gun too 8).
- If you not very mechanical, and want a fine rifle, my advice is to buy a Weihrauch and just shoot it.
- If you're not looking for a fine rifle, but a beautiful, powerful, adequate springer - try the Hatsan 95.
- If you have good mechanical skills to tune the Hatsan 95, understanding that it will most likely, never be as good as a Weihrauch, but a inexpensive cool project, then get a Hatsan 95.
- If you have good mechanical skills, and want a really fine pellet gun, get a more expensive Weihrauch HW50S, HW35E or HW95 and tune it.

After tuning all my Hatsan's and learning much, out of the blue, I bought a HW35E.  I fell in love with the superior craftsmanship of Weihrauch Springers and sold ALL my Hatsans.  This is not to say that Hatsan's are bad, everything about the Weihrauch line is just better.  The only thing Weihrauchs lack is power vs. the Hatsan, which you quickly learn to understand ......... means nothing when you can't hit the bullseye consistently, due to added recoil and lack of build quality.

So, to summarize, the Hatsan 95 in your question is Worth $100, but if you're not mechanically inclined or looking for a "fine quality pellet gun", get the Weihrauch.  Obviously, if cash is a constraint, either save more for a Weihrauch or buy the affordable Hatsan, knowing its limitations.   

Kirk
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 02, 2019, 11:25:56 PM
Since I already have a break barrel in .177 would you recommend going with the same caliber(.177) or would you guys go with a .22. I seriously am thinking about pulling the trigger on this really quickly. Is the .22 going to give better accuracy?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Back_Roads on February 03, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
 .22 wil give you different shooting optoons, and IMO is a good match for the 95s power output.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 03, 2019, 10:21:25 AM
Since I already have a break barrel in .177 would you recommend going with the same caliber(.177) or would you guys go with a .22. I seriously am thinking about pulling the trigger on this really quickly. Is the .22 going to give better accuracy?

Hey Jord99999,
I always preferred the .177 caliber, but if you're gonna hunt, the .22 is the way to go :D.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 03, 2019, 11:07:17 AM
I have Webley Tomahawk springers in .177 and .22 and except for cosmetic differences are the same rifle as the Hatsan 95 springer. Both were new out of the box, untouched and not broken in yet when I shot the targets below.

Either will work just as well for both targets or small pests and the .22 Tomahawk (I have 3) is one of my 2 go to rifles for whacking pests. Don't know if this will help any with your decision but keep us posted on what you finally decide.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 03, 2019, 12:08:45 PM
Since I already have a break barrel in .177 would you recommend going with the same caliber(.177) or would you guys go with a .22. I seriously am thinking about pulling the trigger on this really quickly. Is the .22 going to give better accuracy?

Can't really say which one will be more accurate for you as too many outside factors are involved.

If you are only going to punch paper and shoot small pest birds, the 177 and its flatter trajectory works fine.

If you plan to hunt squirrel and rabbit size game, I'd go with the 22. As previously stated, the power plant of this rifle really does well with the 22 barrel and pellet weights. The 22 pellet trajectory is a bit more "loopy" at long range, but will usually drift less in light wind. Pellet cost and variety is almostt the same as the 177, so there is no downside here.

IMHO the power is on the lighter end for the 25 caliber. Pellet variety, cost, and range limit the usefulness of the 25. If I wanted a short range (20yds max) THUMPER to put the HURT on rats, the 25 version could be a winner.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 03, 2019, 01:21:36 PM
Yeah Guys,
If I was to get another Hatsan 95, it would most likely be a .177 caliber, de-tuned (heat spring a compress a few coils) until it shot around 850 fps.  If I was to hunt again, it would be a de-tuned .22 caliber so that it shot about 725 fps.
.25 caliber is just too much for this rifle, I even thought my Hatsan 135 in .25 caliber was under powered.
Obviously, the people at Hatsan disagree as the 135 comes in .30 caliber now?

Tuning the Quattro trigger for a lighter pull very important too ... for best accuracy.

Good Luck ;)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 03, 2019, 06:52:54 PM
Well guys I made up my mind. I am going to go for the .22 caliber hatsan 95. I would pick it up right now, but I am running a little low on cash so I have to wait for my next paycheck to come in (next week). :(. I am definitely going to pick it up and will probably tune it myself after 1,000 shots or so. I am now really looking forward to getting this rifle.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 03, 2019, 09:38:21 PM
The quantities available on the Hatsan refurb site vary a lot and can change quickly. Hope one sticks around for you.
I've received email notices on newly refurbed Edges (I think 5 available last time?) which were ALL gone by the time I got home and logged online about 2 hours later!
Was passing over about a dozen refurb Mod87QE .22s that were stagnant for well over a month. Then there was a GTA Bargain Gate notice and a Holiday shipping special and they were all gone in a week.  :-[ Yeah, I'm guilty on one of those  :-[

To be clear, you are looking at the Mod95 .22 refurb for $99 (+$10 S&H) which is the spring version with no scope and no QE moderator.

If you wait and lose the one direct from Hatsan, I suggest you watch Field Supply closely for any new Hatsan or Refurb sales. Sometime FS will have the same price (or lower) w/free shipping.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 03, 2019, 09:45:22 PM
Yes that is the one that I am looking at. The refurb for 99 dollars with no scope (I have one) and correct it is the springer. I wish I had the money because it will just be my luck when I get the money the .22 will be gone. (crossed fingers hope not.) Yea I have been watching field supply very closely and have not seen them drop below the 141(springer combo) or the 129 (refurb vortex.) I am not really sure I want to go with a gas piston yet, as I would like something I could tune myself a little easier. I really hope that ONE .22 springer stays in stock. I will keep you guys updated on when I buy the gun.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 03, 2019, 10:52:25 PM
Since I already have a break barrel in .177 would you recommend going with the same caliber(.177) or would you guys go with a .22. I seriously am thinking about pulling the trigger on this really quickly. Is the .22 going to give better accuracy?

Can't really say which one will be more accurate for you as too many outside factors are involved.

If you are only going to punch paper and shoot small pest birds, the 177 and its flatter trajectory works fine.

If you plan to hunt squirrel and rabbit size game, I'd go with the 22. As previously stated, the power plant of this rifle really does well with the 22 barrel and pellet weights. The 22 pellet trajectory is a bit more "loopy" at long range, but will usually drift less in light wind. Pellet cost and variety is almostt the same as the 177, so there is no downside here.

IMHO the power is on the lighter end for the 25 caliber. Pellet variety, cost, and range limit the usefulness of the 25. If I wanted a short range (20yds max) THUMPER to put the HURT on rats, the 25 version could be a winner.

I have the 95, an 87 QE Vortex, 2 Edges, one spring, one Vortex and a 1000X that started life as a Vortex and is now a springer, all of them in .25 and every one of them will easily thump pests out to the 30 yards or so I shoot and very accurately and that's with both JSB King 25.39's and H&N Crow Magnum 26.23gr so they aren't a 20 yard max rifle, at least not to me.
The 95 was my first rifle getting back into air guns and was bought to quietly take out a raccoon wandering my father's backyard which it did and very well with one of those Crow Magnums. I've also done it with the Edge .25 Vortex and those same Crow Magnums.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 03, 2019, 11:21:28 PM
While we are talking about the .22 caliber hatsan 95 I am wondering if any of you guys have a favorite pellet of choice for this rifle. I am going to pick up a tin of crosman premier hollow points from Walmart and shoot those first, but after that what would you guys try. I have heard good things about the H&N field target trophies are pretty good in .22. I have them for my .177 and they give me dimes all day. Some tips would be helpful. Thank You guys sooo very much for the help and advice.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 03, 2019, 11:51:04 PM
In no particular order, the H&N FTT, RWS Superdomes, JSB 15.89 and 18.1 and although they're just rebranded FTT's, the Hatsan Vortex pellets which do shoot a little better than the FTT's even though they are FTT's...lol
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 04, 2019, 10:13:00 AM
As SteveP-52 pointed out, I was seriously under-estimating the useful impact range of the 25 caliber. Ballistic tables will confirm that at ~24 fpe muzzle energy, the 25 will carry a lot more of that energy out to the target.

For pesting that means the 25 will provide a much larger meat-slap than the 22 out to 50+ yards for the rifles listed. Attention to trajectory compensation (holdover) is more important for the 25, but the higher fpe potential on target is worth the effort.

I have an Edge and a StrikerW in 25 cal and like them both. My limited 20 yard estimate is based more on the use of open sights (my limitations) than the rifles actual capabilities.

Having said all that, I still prefer the 25 cal with a little more energy. IMHO the 25 really starts to "shine" over 30 fpe in rifles like the Mod125 (~34fpe). The flatter trajectory and energy on target (loud meat-slap) from the Mod125 surprises me every time.

The trajectory of the Mod125 ~34fpe 25 and Mod95 ~21fpe 22 are pretty close out to ~70 yards. That means I can be lazy with with holdover calculations and shoot them both the same way.

The selection (variety) and availability of 25 pellets is still less than the 22s. My local stores don't currently stock 25s so they are all acquired online. Cost for 25 pellets (for me) are typically 2x-4x more than 22's. None of these issues should stop you from getting a 25, but you should know about them before making that choice.

Still hoping the refurb Mod95 22 waits for you :)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 05, 2019, 01:13:51 AM
Well I was able to pick up the Hatsan mod95 in .22 caliber. I scrounged around for money and was able to come up with the amount that I needed. I guess you could call it an addiction to air guns. Do any of you guys know where hatsanusa ships from? Thank you guys once again for all the help and support. I will definitely keep you guys posted on when I get it and how accurate it is of course.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 05, 2019, 02:22:18 AM
They're in Bentonville, Arkansas. Shouldn't take but a few days..last refurb I ordered got to just north of Buffalo, NY where I live in 3 days.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 07, 2019, 02:54:38 PM
After waiting 2 days. I open the box and receive a hatsan proxima in .177 caliber instead of my Mod 95 in .22. I tried to contact hatsanusa and to no avail. What would you guys do?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: AGEnthused2 on February 07, 2019, 04:27:44 PM
After waiting 2 days. I open the box and receive a hatsan proxima in .177 caliber instead of my Mod 95 in .22. I tried to contact hatsanusa and to no avail. What would you guys do?

The promixa is worth more than the mod 95, you could sell it on the GTA member classifieds and order another mod 95.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 07, 2019, 04:35:38 PM
I think the recent website re-do for Hatsan USA may have really messed up their refurb/closeout inventory system. Not sure if their site crashed and needed to be rebuilt or they rebuilt it just to shake things up. Whatever the reason, the site was messed up for a few days AND IMHO it is now LESS user friendly than it was before. It's seems like they either have a newbie website designer or they asked Microsoft to make the up(down)grades for them  ;P

If I were in your place, I would shoot the rifle for a few days to see if I liked it before asking to return it. I think price-wise you got a much better deal and it "may" be worth keeping IF you really like the performance, look, and feel EVEN THOUGH it is not what you originally wanted.

Is the Turkish Walnut stock nice?
Does it shoot well?
Do you like the way it looks and feels?

The power rating is a bit lower than the Mod95 so also keep that in mind when you make your decision. There are good reasons to send it back and it should be all their cost as it IS their error.  If for ANY reason you don't want to keep it, fill out the form on the Hatsan website (hope that still works) and wait patiently for a response. Last time I used the form I got a good response in 3 days.

The Proxima looks nice to me and I might be tempted to keep it for myself even though the power is a little lower than the Mod95. Under-levers (fixed barrels) "tend" to be more accurate all other things being equal. I initially thought the sliding barrel design of the Torpedo series under-lever was crazy and avoided them for a long time. Then I finally caved and got a bargain refurb Torpedo. Boy was I WRONG to make any assumptions about this platform before actually shooting one. NOW  I am a FAN of the Torpedo series and watch for more refurb/closeout bargains daily
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 07, 2019, 06:03:36 PM
Agreed,
FIRST...notify them this is neither your requested gun nor caliber they sent you
Shoot the Proxima and see if you like it.
 If you don't like it in ANY way, get a REFUND... not an exchange... and walk away from Hatsan.... I did and will never buy another.
That is the only way they will learn this "practice" is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 07, 2019, 10:40:58 PM
I have decided what to do. I called Hatsan and I also filled out their form. I am going to wait until Monday (3 full business days) before I call it mine. I have only shot it 2 times to see how I would like it and to see how quiet it was. Let’s first start off to say that I love the stock. When I opened the box and saw that Turkish walnut my mouth just stood open until I realized it was the wrong gun. The gun is very heavy, but I think I could get over that very quickly. The ergonomic thumbhole stock is also well made and fits my hands beautifully. The gun is very hard to cock, but I do know that they need to break in. As for accuracy I don’t know and I will update you guys later on if I keep the gun or not. Right now I am going to ask if I can keep the gun just because of how much I like it. I only have one other rifle and it is a 90 dollar walmart gun and I think this will be a great addition to my new collection of air guns. I was really hoping that the mod 95 was in .22 and was a little upset that this gun was in .177. Now thinking about it I am not really upset anymore because of my massive collection of .177 pellets. I would be happy with this caliber if I get to keep it   (pssst.... because it gives me a reason to buy another gun. :P)

If you guys would like to see pictures of anything just ask. I got a gun just lying around in wait if something.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: RBQChicken on February 07, 2019, 11:04:42 PM
I wasn't familiar with that gun so I looked it up.  I'm surprised that a Hatsan .177 is rated at only 820 fps, or is that a Pyramidair misprint?

If you can keep that gun at the price of the 95 you ordered, you sure won't lose money if you ever sell it.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 07, 2019, 11:16:05 PM
I wasn't familiar with that gun so I looked it up.  I'm surprised that a Hatsan .177 is rated at only 820 fps, or is that a Pyramidair misprint?

If you can keep that gun at the price of the 95 you ordered, you sure won't lose money if you ever sell it.  Good luck!

Not sure why, but the advertised FPS ratings for the Proxima are a bit lower than the ones for the break barrels and even a refurbed Proxima for $100?? Definite steal as long as you like the rifle, it shoots well and is accurate.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 07, 2019, 11:28:37 PM
Do you any of you guys have any experience with this gun accuracy wise? p-52 you mentioned that they are accurate, how accurate are we talking? More accurate than a break barrel? If so I might just keep it.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 08, 2019, 12:34:00 AM
...(pssst.... because it gives me a reason to buy another gun. :P)...

So sorry you have been introduced to the beast which must be fed...

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=95142.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=95142.0)

Most under-levers have a fixed barrel (NO barrel movement, except theTorpedo series) which means they have the potential to be more accurate than an equivalent break-barrel rifle. There are several factors which can negate this advantage so the best way to find out if your specific Proxima is more-or-less accurate than your Gamo is to shoot-away.

The Proxima has a powerplant design (sliding compression chamber) very similar to the Dominator Carbine series and identically rated power levels seem to confirm that. Another possible bonus is the Vortex gas spring which can be "tuned" with the relatively inexpensive PCP fitting and PCP hand pump which your new ADDICTION will DEMAND you get sooner or later.

Diagrams help.

https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/PROXIMA_Exploded_View.pdf (https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/PROXIMA_Exploded_View.pdf)
https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DOMINATOR_200S_Carbine-exploded_view-June2013.pdf (https://hatsanairgunsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/DOMINATOR_200S_Carbine-exploded_view-June2013.pdf)

If this were my situation, I'd spend the weekend putting several hundred pellets through the Proxima with open sights (my preference). If it shoots as good as it looks, I'd keep it.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 08, 2019, 01:33:18 AM
Do you any of you guys have any experience with this gun accuracy wise? p-52 you mentioned that they are accurate, how accurate are we talking? More accurate than a break barrel? If so I might just keep it.

I don't personally own one so I can't speak for the accuracy part other than if if meets what you're looking for in the accuracy department, you might consider keeping it. Fellow GTA member lefteyeshot owns one and if memory serves, spoke pretty highly of the rifle so maybe he'll see this and chime in about his.

Personally, shoot the daylights out of it until HatsanUSA finally replies, get a better feel for the rifle and how well or not well it will shoot for you, then decide whether you want them to take it back or not. They screwed up, at least have some fun with it for a few days...lol
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: lefteyeshot on February 08, 2019, 10:21:37 PM
I like my .177 Proxima. I paid $389 for it pre-ordered from PA before they got'em in stock. I'd keep it. That's a nice gun for $99. I just punch paper so most of my guns are .177. I'm debating putting a spring in it when the warranty runs out. Don't care for gas ram. Maybe get rid of that ugly front sight assembly.

A few years ago I bought a Dominator. Back then you never saw them under $350. PA had them on sale in .177 for $250 but they sent me the carbine. I liked it and kept it. It was in the wrong box. One of the best shooting guns I have. The best shooting Hatsan I have. Tried to buy a wood stock for it from Kral (they would have had to order it) but it was $250 just for the stock.

I have a Tommy. I think it's nicer looking than the 95 and a few years ago AOA had'em for like $125 and if you got it they sold you a $130 Hawke scope for $25. No brainer. I have an air stripper on it. Seems to help.

Got a 135 and a 155, they're keepers. I have the olive green AK/SKS slings on the ones with sling mounts. Leather tab on the ends fit perfect. I like the look.

The Hatsans that come with a weaver rail, the rail is mounted to far forward and they all need an off-set mount. On the Proxima I got a Simmons 3-9x40 30mm tube scope on top of an off-set Weaver one piece SPR mount model 48377W. Walmart has both. Scope's $49, mount's $29. Mount is 30mm but comes with the inserts if you want to use a scope with a 1 inch tube.

JMO, I think a heavy .22 pellet will do about anything a .25 will do and more choices in ammo.

KEEP THE PROXIMA! U GOTTA' A DEAL. When you're done shooting it to put it away without dry firing, load one pellet in the mag., cock it and chamber the pellet then pull the lever back, remove the mag, put the cocking lever back forward and shoot it. Don't point it up the pellet will fall out and could fall thru the transfer port into the compression chamber. That happened to me. Guess it flattened out. Hasn't effected anything.

I'd buy a tin of Crosmans if I needed a paper weight on my desk.

Sorry, guys, to long. Later, Tim.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 09, 2019, 01:49:09 AM
I contacted hatsan and they actually responded to me withing 2 hours of me calling. I am going to return the proxima in.177 caliber and they said I could pick any mod 95. Sooooo I picked the Mod 95 Vortex QE in .22. I hope that I like that gun. Getting this gun really amped my feelings up for airguns and that stock is saweet. Well I did the right thing so the other person can have their gun and they did the right thing by letting me pick a better gun. (I even asked to keep it. They said no.)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 09, 2019, 01:49:51 AM
I didn't even get to see the accuracy of that fine piece of wood.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 09, 2019, 05:39:44 AM
Good Form!
Karma has a way of coming back around and I bet you will be rewarded for your honesty and returning the Proxima with a very nice 95.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Wayne52 on February 09, 2019, 05:59:41 AM
One of these days I'll probably buy a Hatsan myself but unfortunately I've been using all my extra funds for bills, food, insurance and the list goes on.  Winter time puts a crimp on my fun spending on account of the outrageous heating bills but I have been buying some stuff on Ebay recently as many know and it's been keep the fun meter at full tilt for this old fart.  I've really been into pistols with open sights recently and there's just a hand full of good ones built these days that really fit  the bill so I've been resorting to mostly co2 vintage . . . they're the cats meow IMO.

I've always liked the fact that Hatsan builds some beautiful looking guns with their Turkish walnut and I'm a natural born tinkerer so the tinkering with a gun doesn't bother me in the least, I've been doing it most all my life on one thing or another.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: 19Sheridan57 on February 09, 2019, 08:13:52 AM
  A friend of mine has the Model 95 QE in .22. It is a sweet shooter & I think you will like it.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 09, 2019, 02:03:55 PM
One of these days I'll probably buy a Hatsan myself but unfortunately I've been using all my extra funds for bills, food, insurance and the list goes on.  Winter time puts a crimp on my fun spending on account of the outrageous heating bills but I have been buying some stuff on Ebay recently as many know and it's been keep the fun meter at full tilt for this old fart.  I've really been into pistols with open sights recently and there's just a hand full of good ones built these days that really fit  the bill so I've been resorting to mostly co2 vintage . . . they're the cats meow IMO.

I've always liked the fact that Hatsan builds some beautiful looking guns with their Turkish walnut and I'm a natural born tinkerer so the tinkering with a gun doesn't bother me in the least, I've been doing it most all my life on one thing or another.

Hey Wayne,
If you like to tinker a refurb Hatsan 95 would be a perfect ....... for only $100.

They're a very adequate springer with the possibility of getting a beautiful Walnut stock.  I tuned about (12) Hatsan 95s, about 1/3 to 1/2 of them had beautiful stocks, with only 1/4 of 'em coming with super plain wood.

If you tinker, tune the trigger and maybe detune a bit by clipping or heating and compressing a few coils.  A top-hat and buttoning the piston would really help along with using water bottle plastic inside the piston.

As a former St. Joseph, MI resident, and occasional Houghton, MI visitor .... I can understand the massive Winter heating bills :P.

   
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: RBQChicken on February 09, 2019, 05:57:47 PM
Hmmm, former lower Michigan resident who now visits Houghton occasionally..  Are you a former Michigan Tech student?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 09, 2019, 09:02:44 PM
Hmmm, former lower Michigan resident who now visits Houghton occasionally..  Are you a former Michigan Tech student?

Yes, I was back in the late 70's and early 80's :D.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: RBQChicken on February 09, 2019, 09:46:29 PM
That's when I was there, last half of the 70's (although I've always lived here).
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 09, 2019, 11:31:52 PM
That's when I was there, last half of the 70's (although I've always lived here).

Do you have a Uper-Scooper?
Ya Sure Yu-Betya ........ ;)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: RBQChicken on February 10, 2019, 06:40:27 AM
I still have a Yooper scooper but I never use it. Takes too much time.  A plow on the front of my truck is a much better option.
It's winter carnival weekend right now. 
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SpiralGroove on February 10, 2019, 02:26:31 PM
It's winter carnival weekend right now.

The Winter carnival ice statues are beautiful to see 8), I had no idea until my first carnival. 

Can you remember your "Senior Walk"? ;D
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: RBQChicken on February 10, 2019, 03:48:02 PM
I didn't partake.  Since the 18 year old drinking age remained in effect my entire time there, every weekend night was like a "senior walk"  ;)
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 16, 2019, 05:32:57 PM
Sorry guys for leaving you hanging, but after talking to Hatsan USA about shipping me out a new rifle they ceased to respond to me. I have waited 6 days and still no response. I now have the promixa mounted with a scope and it has now been put into service. I have no idea what is up with Hatsan service but they really need to get that straightened out before I even look at getting a different rifle from them. Is there even a number in which you can actually talk to a person?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: mikeyb on February 16, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
IME for swaps like that, the Seller won't ship out the second rifle until the first one is returned and verified intact. Did Hatsan agree to send the replacement Mod95 out first?
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 16, 2019, 06:19:44 PM
I told them that I would not send out the proxima until I received the hatsan 95 and they have not responded to that email.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: SteveP-52 on February 16, 2019, 11:08:02 PM
Good for you! They agreed to send you a 95 Vortex QE to fix their screw up and it's a pretty big one considering a refurb Proxima is something like a $220 rifle vs. the $100 Model 95 springer you ordered. I'd hang on to that Proxima myself until the rifle they promised me finally showed up at my door and I verified that what they agreed to is actually inside that box and works.

Have fun shooting it cuz I'd do that too...lol
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on February 17, 2019, 12:10:16 AM
You hold the upper hand due to their incompetence.
 Not often that happens.
Title: Re: Refurbed Hatsan 95 by HatsanUsa
Post by: Jord99999 on February 17, 2019, 12:48:26 AM
Personally I would not mind if they did not ship out the other rifle. This gun shoots really really nicely even though it is a beast to hold. I don’t think the other rifle will come due to the fact that it has been a week without a reply and still no gun. If I do happen to receive a gun I will be more than happy to send this one back, but I am not going to waste my time trying to contact Hatsan for a mistake they made. They need to make it right and so far they have shown no interest in doing so. With that being said..... I am a new owner of a Proxima .177.