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Title: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 01, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
First of all, this is NOT my idea, I stole it from Slavia over on the AirGunHome Forum.... It was such a simple idea that I simply HAD to try it, and it worked like a charm.... This was the prototype, I have since made a more permanent one and I'll use it any time I want to test a springer from the bench, for example in finding the most accurate pellet....

(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Springers/SpringerBenchRestRoller.jpg)

It is a small paint roller that can rotate on an axle.... The forearm of the springer is laid across the roller, and when the gun is fired, it is free to move fore and aft with the recoil.... I used my left hand under the butt, and held the gun lightly into my shoulder with my right hand which had a relaxed grip on the wrist of the stock.... I shot the two 10-shot groups inside at a distance of 20 feet, using H&N 14.7 gr. FTT pellets, which are the favourite of my B-26.... The results speak for themselves.... The top group was from sandbags, the lower group shot off the roller.... I'm convinced !!!

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Rescue912 on March 01, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
Whoa, awesome. I made a couple of bags from a homedic microbead pillow and got great results too. Amazing what a proper hold will do...
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 01, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
I've tried various bags.... also tried cradling the forearm in my hand with my hand or wrist resting on a bag.... This worked better than anything I have tried before with a springer....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: igorgetz on March 01, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
OK...where did you get the axle?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 01, 2012, 04:20:39 PM
It's just a piece of 1/4" brass rod, and I drilled the ends of the roller out to rotate freely on it.... In my "final" version the axle is mounted firmly in holes in plywood side pieces.... That cradle was for rotating scopes to check the optical center.... just a mock-up....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tarheel on March 01, 2012, 04:44:45 PM
First of all, this is NOT my idea, I stole it from Slavia over on the AirGunHome Forum.... It was such a simple idea that I simply HAD to try it, and it worked like a charm.... This was the prototype, I have since made a more permanent one and I'll use it any time I want to test a springer from the bench, for example in finding the most accurate pellet....

(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo221/rsterne/Springers/SpringerBenchRestRoller.jpg)

It is a small paint roller that can rotate on an axle.... The forearm of the springer is laid across the roller, and when the gun is fired, it is free to move fore and aft with the recoil.... I used my left hand under the butt, and held the gun lightly into my shoulder with my right hand which had a relaxed grip on the wrist of the stock.... I shot the two 10-shot groups inside at a distance of 20 feet, using H&N 14.7 gr. FTT pellets, which are the favourite of my B-26.... The results speak for themselves.... The top group was from sandbags, the lower group shot off the roller.... I'm convinced !!!

Bob

Bob,

I am definitely going to try this out !

Dave
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 01, 2012, 04:47:10 PM
The KISS principle at work.... and MAN does it work!!!

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tater on March 01, 2012, 04:54:14 PM
Thanks for posting this. I gotta try it too.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: pappa on March 02, 2012, 10:47:35 AM
Dang! This is great and can be used in many configurations. I think that I'll try to make one like this with a thick layer of egg-crate foam rubber wrapped around a dowel and covered with cloth.

Thanks for the idea!
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Recon73 on March 02, 2012, 12:26:40 PM
I just use My rucksak..
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Onebaddj on March 02, 2012, 04:05:36 PM
Man thats an awesome idea! I gots me a ball bearing roller from a vacuum cleaner that busted that i can use for that.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Dockey 454 on March 02, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Great idea, Going to try that. I'm using a wood T with a piece of foam pipe insulation pulled over the edge.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: ronbeaux on March 02, 2012, 08:24:47 PM
Cool! I can now throw that old smelly pillow away on top of my BBQ pit. Old Grandad served me well over the years with just a pillow on top and a loose hold.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Riffmeister on March 02, 2012, 09:49:46 PM
Excellent platform to start creating ideas from.... Thanks
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: william71743 on March 02, 2012, 10:01:47 PM
Another great idea I gotta try, thanks, Bob !
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: robert w on March 02, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
rsterne im gonna get you for stealing hhaa haha haha i seen it and was goin to try it also looks like it will work fine
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Mike 4888blues on March 03, 2012, 02:49:02 AM
 8) Ok hold em rite there, don't make a move or you'll get whats coming to you  see..

 Whats the bright Ideal , Who started all this, its ten to twenty in the slammer for you,
 its curtains  pal.
 lights out.. one step closer and its over done finished, ut ut raise your hand up slow where I can count the hairs. don't blink either or it be your last.
 now drop it. and all I have to say is.
 great Ideal kid, thanks for mentioning it, I am sure you be getting a medal for this, yeah yeah that's it a medal. see
lol    ;) very cool i AM DEFINITELY GOING TO MAKE  ONE / SIMPLICITY WINS AGAIN
I am sticking with his plan  using a roller  or maybe pipe insulation around a roller we will experament..

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tuco on March 03, 2012, 03:18:24 AM
It's great to see examples of creative thinking applied to shooting - finding new uses for familiar objects to help us get better results. I shall definitely try this idea out as a zeroing rest. It will be interesting to see how well it works when shooting further out e.g. at 35 yards. Also, to see what happens to the POI when we switch from the 'roller' to shooting off-hand. Thanks for sharing the idea.

My current zeroing rest is a wooden platform fixed to a cheap, lightweight camera tripod.  I put a small bag filled with rice on top of the board and put my hand on top of that. The gun (a springer) rests on the heel of my hand. It gives a very stable shooting platform. See photo:

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tater on March 03, 2012, 01:33:12 PM
It's great to see examples of creative thinking applied to shooting - finding new uses for familiar objects to help us get better results. I shall definitely try this idea out as a zeroing rest. It will be interesting to see how well it works when shooting further out e.g. at 35 yards. Also, to see what happens to the POI when we switch from the 'roller' to shooting off-hand. Thanks for sharing the idea.

My current zeroing rest is a wooden platform fixed to a cheap, lightweight camera tripod.  I put a small bag filled with rice on top of the board and put my hand on top of that. The gun (a springer) rests on the heel of my hand. It gives a very stable shooting platform. See photo:

Please post your results, I'm very curious.
Title: My Version
Post by: breakfastchef on March 04, 2012, 11:00:33 PM
I built one of these rests today out of some wood scraps. I did a variation that allows for several vertical adjustments. This simple rest is really quite useful. I am still fiddling with it and plan to compare it with my MTM Predator rest.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 04, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Excellent idea.... My Mk2 version has proper sides for the axle and I'll just put wooden blocks under it to adjust the height.... I like the adjustable version you made, though....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: lizzie on March 05, 2012, 11:44:57 AM
Wow- very cool- thanks for posting! :)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: RCTrax05 on March 06, 2012, 03:50:14 PM
Excellent idea.... My Mk2 version has proper sides for the axle and I'll just put wooden blocks under it to adjust the height....
Bob

I built one, and I must say it works! I did learn some things along the way -- I had to raise mine up to get it to the height I needed, and I initially made the mistake of just sticking a small cardboard box under it... BAD MOVE! That made the rest too "bouncy" and the groups suffered. As soon as I changed to a solid base, the groups tightened up beautifully! (5 shots in one ragged 1/4" hole at 10 yards...)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Slavia on March 07, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
I'm the Slavia that Bob "stole" the idea from - except you can't steal something that was offered freely in the first place.  it makes me happy to see where you guys have taken the idea.  Just for laughs, here's the Slaviamatic MKI (prototype).  Even RCTrax05's cardboard box is a step up in craftsmanship.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Mike 4888blues on March 07, 2012, 02:23:38 PM
I'm the Slavia that Bob "stole" the idea from - except you can't steal something that was offered freely in the first place.  it makes me happy to see where you guys have taken the idea.  Just for laughs, here's the Slaviamatic MKI (prototype).  Even RCTrax05's cardboard box is a step up in craftsmanship.
:D
Thats so cool something simple, love the results I'll be making  one for sure  8)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 07, 2012, 02:29:36 PM
HEY, Uncle Slavia.... Welcome to the GTA !!!

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: gene_sc on March 07, 2012, 02:39:29 PM
LOL that is funny Slavia. I must of stole your idea about 5 years ago.. :)  Telescoping rest...
 
 
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: NitroGary0 on March 07, 2012, 02:40:06 PM
I find it a real pain when someone thinks like this. Its the sort of thing that makes you say, "why didn't I think of that?"
I doff my hat to guys, thank you.
Oh, and wheres the paint rollers?????? a project for this evening I think
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Mike 4888blues on March 07, 2012, 02:45:20 PM
I find it a real pain when someone thinks like this. Its the sort of thing that makes you say, "why didn't I think of that?"
I doff my hat to guys, thank you.
Oh, and wheres the paint rollers?????? a project for this evening I think
Hi Gary check page 1   of  this post for rollers  // this is page  two
Mike
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 07, 2012, 08:56:41 PM
HEY gene.... is that a roller?.... had to tell from the photos....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Mike 4888blues on March 07, 2012, 09:04:29 PM
HEY gene.... is that a roller?.... had to tell from the photos....

Bob
:D  8)
I am a plumber I would say gene does not have the roller  on his stand but a glued together / or dry fitted pvc  pipe, with cut pieces of foam pipe insulation slipped around the inner area. his  would not have any movement. still a nice ideal
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: gene_sc on March 08, 2012, 12:04:38 AM
No it is not a roller and like Mike said it is pipe insulation. I found that it let the forestock move during the rcoil. I never hold my forestock tight on my springers and generally let it move without holding it. The paint roller system is a much nicer idea thougth.
Gene
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Clay on June 06, 2013, 07:02:19 PM
This idea was worth trying. Here's my screwed and glued knock-down version.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Motorhead on June 06, 2013, 08:06:29 PM
Can't keep a good ideal down ... a worthy resurrection of a long past thread  (http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/images/smilies/toast.gif)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on June 06, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
Great idea!  I really like that and will build me one when we get back home this fall.   ;D 

ITMT, I'll continue to lay a soft frictionless cloth on both my {heavy} Caldwell Rock front rest and on my Protector rear bag.  My HW50S wants no resistance no where....including from my cheek.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: BenjiHunter on June 06, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
That is a really great rest!
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 06, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
 ;D I do something similar with a bar clamp and a paint roller hung off a utility shelf in my basement  helps to steady my shaky aim to much coffee and way too old to be playing with "toy" guns the words of wisdom from a PB shooter not me when I brought a quarter to work that had been shot dead center with my RWS 54 (.22) the quarter was totally dished also brought one of my recent targets to work as proof of accuracy
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: OleTomCat on June 06, 2013, 10:58:16 PM
Cool setup, gonna have to build one for testing springers...
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Bob H. on June 07, 2013, 07:45:01 AM
That is a great idea!  Now, I need to made 2 of then, one for me and one for my son. 

For me, this is a very timely thread.  I'm just now completing a shooting rest built on a 4 foot fiber grass step ladder.  It is a stand beside and shoot design.   It is stable and knocks down for transport and storage.  If I ever get my wife's photo program figured out, I'll post a photo.

Bob H.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 07, 2013, 07:59:44 AM
Cool setup, gonna have to build one for testing springers...
Not just testing like it better than the way I set it up off of my storage shelf.  Prettier and much more versatile for bench shooting. Will build one at my friends shop 
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: TooJung2Die on June 07, 2013, 12:33:27 PM
NOOB Question:
How does using this help when you take the gun to the field and have to hold it in your hands? Won't the POI be different? Do you only shoot bench rest?
Jon
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 07, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
Noob reply , Any tool that allows you to explore the potential accuracy of your chosen rifle also allows you to explore the possibility that your  technique and not the rifle needs to be worked on   
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on June 07, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
It is also a valuable tool to determine what pellet(s) your rifle likes while taking the way you hold it out of the equation as much as possible.... It will also show you what kind of accuracy your gun is capable of, and give you a goal to "shoot" for when practicing in the "real world"....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Gertrude on June 07, 2013, 01:55:12 PM
I missed this thread the first couple of time s around. glad I didn't miss it this time.
Great Idea, and I love the way it has been improved along the way.
Good job guys.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: avv604 on June 07, 2013, 02:12:56 PM
Nice.. real nice. If I get a springer one day again.. I will remember this idea.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: OleTomCat on June 07, 2013, 02:15:06 PM
Went to walmart last night looking at paint rollers, none of them had the plastic end caps unless you bought the handle too, is that what yall did and then threw away the handle?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Motorhead on June 07, 2013, 02:42:55 PM
Noob reply , Any tool that allows you to explore the potential accuracy of your chosen rifle also allows you to explore the possibility that your  technique and not the rifle needs to be worked on   

Well Said !
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Motorhead on June 07, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
Went to walmart last night looking at paint rollers, none of them had the plastic end caps unless you bought the handle too, is that what yall did and then threw away the handle?

Yup buy a cheap roller handle, remove clip on end so you can slide off the caps .... shove em onto the roller and then using a wood dowel, all thread or what ever you devise ? ... your set.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: robtmc on June 07, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
It is also a valuable tool to determine what pellet(s) your rifle likes while taking the way you hold it out of the equation as much as possible.... It will also show you what kind of accuracy your gun is capable of, and give you a goal to "shoot" for when practicing in the "real world"....

What I thought the instant I saw this.  I will be building one this weekend.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Clay on June 07, 2013, 10:07:48 PM
Went to walmart last night looking at paint rollers, none of them had the plastic end caps unless you bought the handle too, is that what yall did and then threw away the handle?

I already had an old 4" roller and handle so I just bored out the plastic on the fixed end cap and pulled both caps off and tossed the handle. Went to big box and bought a 1/4" x 2' rod and then did a design. I've got 2 rubber faucet washers and some steel washers on the shaft to keep the roller from moving axially on the shaft or between the cradle frames. Fortunately I had some left over Bruce flooring and some misc. oak thanks to hurricane Hugo. To get the cradle to move up and down freely, you have to be somewhat precise, especially when you are gluing. The whole thing has to be stable and this happily is.

It's fun work and the unit works great!

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: wahoowad on June 23, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
WOW!!! This really works! I am the biggest skeptic and thought it was a hairbrain idea, but I also have 2 hold-sensitive springers and got frustrated again this morning so I made a roller rest. Look at my groups!

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy230/wds3r/paintrollerrestgroups_zpsc329d9dc.jpg)

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy230/wds3r/direct%20link/5A039219-C9BA-4F5E-ABAB-D1424B9FA5C9-12803-00001263D1D555F3_zps453f7cb1.jpg)

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on June 23, 2013, 01:56:12 PM
WOW!!! This really works!

Same here, bro.  I had seen Bob's post (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48863.0) a few months ago but put off making one.  After making one yesterday, I'm just mad at myself for not trying it sooner. 

I like how you posted some before and after.  It's pretty exciting isn't it?  What rifle were you using?

[edit] Oh, I see you have a Beeman R9.  Nice rifle! [/edit]
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Post by: nunofrancisco on June 23, 2013, 02:38:22 PM
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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on June 23, 2013, 04:04:22 PM
I put my forward hand on the base of the roller support.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nunofrancisco on June 23, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: wahoowad on June 23, 2013, 04:19:49 PM
I only grip the pistol grip with my firing hand, the other hand rests on the table or my lap.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on June 23, 2013, 04:42:46 PM
so let me see if i learned. forward hand grabbing the support of the roller, other hand on gun (trigger) and... wepon rested on the roller?

You got it.  Also, I try to rest the rifle such that it is pretty much on its balance point.  That is how my particular rifle, a Beeman RS2, shot best with the artillery hold and it seems to work with the roller as well.   

Other fine points include a firm hold with my trigger hand, and with the buttpad lightly shouldered.  Different rifles may have different preferences so you may want to experiment.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nunofrancisco on June 23, 2013, 06:01:04 PM
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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: UCrazyKid on June 23, 2013, 06:39:34 PM
I use a rolled up towel over here, about a 16" roll with rubber bands on the ends to keep it tight/together, works great.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: sperho on June 23, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
Built one.  I must just not have it.  4-5 MOA groups with the paint roller (near or far or on the balance point) at 30 yds, 3-4 MOA groups with the bag.  The Caldwell bag still works better for me at this point.  TX200, .22 cal.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: 1216bandit on June 23, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
This is what I have been using.  The socks are filled with corn cob media which I picked up at a pet store.  The smaller one under the back of the stock can be squeezed or released to raise or lower the gun.   I also have caldwell shooting bags and this works much better!
I have a several rollers in the garage so I am going the give that a whirl also.

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n546/1216bandit/north%20carolina/air%20rifles/IMGP6157_zps2625eb49.jpg) (http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/1216bandit/media/north%20carolina/air%20rifles/IMGP6157_zps2625eb49.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 23, 2013, 09:01:50 PM
 ;) I think that it may make a bigger difference with the break barrel guns, but if you just at forestock to rest there an a steading rest point and brace the stock lightly with your lead hand
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Briar Patch on June 24, 2013, 12:04:10 AM
I thought I had some paint rollers, but apparently I don't.  I ended up using a 1" dowel and put on a 1/2 roll of toilet paper.  Worked great, but I'm going to replace the toilet paper with a paint roller.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tucannon on June 24, 2013, 12:22:34 AM
I tried this and it works great, I used my Crosman Vantage with a factory spring that is hold sensitive and its like a new gun. Here is the set up that I came up with.  This is at 50ft.


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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: blueduck on June 24, 2013, 01:35:39 AM
   i use a wooden rolling pin for baking, no buffer.....straight wood to wood. rearward recoil is 1/4 inch forward is hard to tell. works great. not for hunting or anything but tight group testing. nothing between the forearm and pin.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on June 24, 2013, 12:34:55 PM
na, springers are almost all about the same. they need to be lightly grabed, even with the triger finger. and balance point give you more steady on gun when trying to aim to target

Nuno, you got me thinking about the grip with my trigger hand so I tried some groups with a light hold.  The POI shifted, which was expected and okay, but unfortunately my group sizes doubled on average. Not sure why that is.  Maybe because it's a $115 springer, I suppose.

In any case, this experiment is just another reminder that consistency is everything when it comes to springers.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nunofrancisco on June 24, 2013, 05:23:48 PM
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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Kbreeze on June 26, 2013, 08:00:30 PM
Just curious, is anyone selling this things? Like a well fabricated adjustable version?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 26, 2013, 08:08:01 PM
Just curious, is anyone selling this things? Like a well fabricated adjustable version?
From what I see this is all home fabrication just various skill levels  ;D
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Kbreeze on June 26, 2013, 08:11:35 PM
Just curious, is anyone selling this things? Like a well fabricated adjustable version?
From what I see this is all home fabrication just various skill levels  ;D

Might be a good idea for some of the finer craftsman here....
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on June 26, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
Just curious, is anyone selling this things? Like a well fabricated adjustable version?
From what I see this is all home fabrication just various skill levels  ;D

Might be a good idea for some of the finer craftsman here....
Can't get good if you don't try. Before I couldn't spell technician now I are one  ;)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on June 27, 2013, 12:06:02 AM
I continue to be amazed at how a paint roller rest has practically transformed the performance of my cheap Beeman RS2.  Here are some groups I shot after work the last couple of days.  Several at 25 yards and a couple at 42 yards.   At 25 yards, I'm getting in the vicinity of 0.5" groups with a couple of freak 0.2" - 0.3" groups.  At 42 yards, it's more like 0.75".   I love it!

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: SpringerForever on June 29, 2013, 10:56:41 PM
Here's a PVC version I just made for my brother & his very hold sensitive RWS 48 .177:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M8cjmg9byLg/Uc8Itj6CEyI/AAAAAAAAAcs/UnntJt8i9Zg/w478-h670-no/PVC+Shooting+Rest+1.jpg)

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: espresso on July 01, 2013, 10:29:42 AM
Here's my version.....

I'm new to all this but I can tell you one thing........it works!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7301/9168675649_d7052e46d2_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: lizzie on July 01, 2013, 11:03:57 AM
Wow- quite impressive, and I really like the construction of the rest. Thanks for the ideas. :)
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Post by: pfin3 on July 01, 2013, 08:17:40 PM
Great ideas but I'm afraid if my wife sees me with one of these with the paint roller she's gonna think I'm gonna paint the whole house. And I hate to paint. Haha
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nunofrancisco on July 01, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
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Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: pfin3 on July 02, 2013, 09:49:24 PM
Here's a PVC version I just made for my brother & his very hold sensitive RWS 48 .177:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M8cjmg9byLg/Uc8Itj6CEyI/AAAAAAAAAcs/UnntJt8i9Zg/w478-h670-no/PVC+Shooting+Rest+1.jpg)
Springer, what size pipe did you use?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Frank in Fairfield on July 02, 2013, 11:44:28 PM
Looks like a paper towel holder or piano (toiletpaper) paper holder with screw adjustable legs would work too. Fine adjustments: Remove a few sheets of paper.... ;D
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: SpringerForever on July 03, 2013, 03:48:42 AM
Here's a PVC version I just made for my brother & his very hold sensitive RWS 48 .177:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M8cjmg9byLg/Uc8Itj6CEyI/AAAAAAAAAcs/UnntJt8i9Zg/w478-h670-no/PVC+Shooting+Rest+1.jpg)
Springer, what size pipe did you use?

3/4" schedule 40 for all but the roller which was 1" schedule (?) (it was lighter weight than the 3/4").
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: OleTomCat on July 03, 2013, 04:22:11 AM
That is just way too much cutting and glueing....
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Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on July 03, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
That is just way too much cutting and glueing....
;D Maybe it's a takedown version no glue  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: SpringerForever on July 03, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
That is just way too much cutting and glueing....
;D Maybe it's a takedown version no glue  ;) ;)

If this is in reference to the PVC version, I used a miter saw with the standard blade so the cutting was easy & relatively quick. Gluing was actually the easy part. And all but the two horizontal cross pieces & one end of the roller section have been glued so it can be taken down into a relatively flat package & the roller replaced if necessary.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on July 03, 2013, 12:49:34 PM
That is just way too much cutting and glueing....
;D Maybe it's a takedown version no glue  ;) ;)

If this is in reference to the PVC version, I used a miter saw with the standard blade so the cutting was easy & relatively quick. Gluing was actually the easy part. And all but the two horizontal cross pieces & one end of the roller section have been glued so it can be taken down into a relatively flat package & the roller replaced if necessary.
It's what works best for you someone else built a spring compressor that looked like art and furniture all at the same time mine is a 4ft pipe clamp with some cut pieces of sheet rubber gasket material to protect the rifle it works quite well  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: mooseslayer on July 03, 2013, 01:24:32 PM
I made mine with a small roller and drilled one hole every inch for 8 inches for lots of adjustment.
Not sure if you can see in this pic...I cropped it into another pic so maybe better.

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s560/mooseslayerjc/bth_bench2_zpscc6d3dc1.jpg)

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s560/mooseslayerjc/bth_a5eb2a33-25bd-4100-a4e7-e1b79b3eb583_zpsc76a9440.jpg?t=1372868508)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: SpringerForever on July 04, 2013, 01:25:41 AM
That is just way too much cutting and glueing....
;D Maybe it's a takedown version no glue  ;) ;)

If this is in reference to the PVC version, I used a miter saw with the standard blade so the cutting was easy & relatively quick. Gluing was actually the easy part. And all but the two horizontal cross pieces & one end of the roller section have been glued so it can be taken down into a relatively flat package & the roller replaced if necessary.
It's what works best for you someone else built a spring compressor that looked like art and furniture all at the same time mine is a 4ft pipe clamp with some cut pieces of sheet rubber gasket material to protect the rifle it works quite well  ;D ;D

My aim was to build something lightweight & fairly portable & I think I achieved that. The idea of transporting 'furniture' from place to place doesn't appeal to me. :-)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on July 04, 2013, 01:43:06 AM
I see a lot of folks building rests but I want to see some groups. 

Don't you guys like to show off?  ;D
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Tater on July 04, 2013, 05:44:46 AM
Nice rest John.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on July 04, 2013, 09:15:08 AM
I see a lot of folks building rests but I want to see some groups. 

Don't you guys like to show off?  ;D
Several people have  if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on July 04, 2013, 09:32:55 AM
You're right, just hardly any of those who have built one recently.  I was stunned at how well it worked so I want to see how folks are getting along with theirs.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on July 04, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
I see a lot of folks building rests but I want to see some groups. 

Don't you guys like to show off?  ;D
Several people have  if I'm not mistaken
mine is just a paint roller stuck on a spring clamp shaft and clamped to a storage shelf in my basement at 34ft to target
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: zenonine on August 12, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
Now that is cool. Gonna make one before my B-26 arrives.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on October 03, 2013, 01:23:50 PM
I can do this one, too.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: wahoowad on October 03, 2013, 01:57:43 PM
You're right, just hardly any of those who have built one recently.  I was stunned at how well it worked so I want to see how folks are getting along with theirs.

I initially had GREAT results with mine, but recently realized my groups were becoming more erratic (even after ruling our the usual variables such as cleaning/stock screws, etc). What I realized is that the nap of my roller had flattened down over time (a couple thousand shots will do that  ;D ) thus changing the original feel of the rest from a softer nap to a pretty firm compressed nap. In fact the inner support of the roller has springy little rods that keep the roller from totally collapsing and I think these were then getting involved in the equation.

I haven't replaced my roller yet but curious if anybody also had great results go downhill over time?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on October 03, 2013, 08:39:31 PM
You're right, just hardly any of those who have built one recently.  I was stunned at how well it worked so I want to see how folks are getting along with theirs.

I initially had GREAT results with mine, but recently realized my groups were becoming more erratic (even after ruling our the usual variables such as cleaning/stock screws, etc). What I realized is that the nap of my roller had flattened down over time (a couple thousand shots will do that  ;D ) thus changing the original feel of the rest from a softer nap to a pretty firm compressed nap. In fact the inner support of the roller has springy little rods that keep the roller from totally collapsing and I think these were then getting involved in the equation.

I haven't replaced my roller yet but curious if anybody also had great results go downhill over time?

Aren't paint rollers washable and/or should we be considering foam insulation over/around the chosen PVC pipe axle?   :-\
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: snakebite4767 on October 03, 2013, 09:21:40 PM
I built two different versions of the Paint Roller rest. They worked, but for me... my old rolled up sleeping bag is giving me better groups. I'll try some more and see if things change.

Snakebite
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: wahoowad on October 03, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
In addition to my paint roller I also build a stand out of wood and it holds a 6" length of pool noodle. I use the pool noodle just like the paint roller and I'm thinking it is going to compress less and hold up better. We'll see...
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: benj397 on January 05, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Decided I needed to try one of these so I built one for a tripod.  Used a 3 inch PVC coupler with a little trimmed off one side (to allow it to open).  Heated it in an oven at 210 deg for about 10 minutes (be careful since if it gets too hot it will put off toxic fumes).  Then stretched it open enough to get a 2X4 in it.  Added another 2X4 to the back side and clamped it with a large C clamp until it cooled.  This gave me the wide flat area.  Trimmed the "ears" so that were fairly even.  The paint roller is about 1.25 inches in dia and now about 3.5 inches long (originally was 6 inches). When I cut it, I inserted a pice of plastic tubing in the end that did not have the hole for the roller handle in order to keep it straight on the bolt. 

I bored a hole in the center of the coupler for a 3 inch bolt to mount to the tripod.  I added a washer to the bolt head so it wouldn't pull through easily and a washer and nut on the back side. I had a wood dowel that fit the tripod upright so I bored a vertical hole through it, inserted the rest of the bolt and put a locking nut on the end.  The dowel fits tight in the tube.

When it gets warmer, I'll test it.

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on January 05, 2014, 09:18:22 PM
Decided I needed to try one of these so I built one for a tripod.  Used a 3 inch PVC coupler with a little trimmed off one side (to allow it to open).  Heated it in an oven at 210 deg for about 10 minutes (be careful since if it gets too hot it will put off toxic fumes).  Then stretched it open enough to get a 2X4 in it.  Added another 2X4 to the back side and clamped it with a large C clamp until it cooled.  This gave me the wide flat area.  Trimmed the "ears" so that were fairly even.  The paint roller is about 1.25 inches in dia and now about 3.5 inches long (originally was 6 inches). When I cut it, I inserted a pice of plastic tubing in the end that did not have the hole for the roller handle in order to keep it straight on the bolt. 

I bored a hole in the center of the coupler for a 3 inch bolt to mount to the tripod.  I added a washer to the bolt head so it wouldn't pull through easily and a washer and nut on the back side. I had a wood dowel that fit the tripod upright so I bored a vertical hole through it, inserted the rest of the bolt and put a locking nut on the end.  The dowel fits tight in the tube.

When it gets warmer, I'll test it.

Great idea and execution BUT, unless it's sturdier than mine, the weak link is gonna' be the tripod.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: johninthecamper on January 06, 2014, 01:49:29 AM
great idea
what about making it with angle on the ROLLERS,with two one one side and one in the middle of the two at a matching angle.this whole gizmo would need to inside of another to adjust,sort of like a vertical drawer with the bottom gone
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: benj397 on January 06, 2014, 09:08:48 AM
great idea
what about making it with angle on the ROLLERS,with two one one side and one in the middle of the two at a matching angle.this whole gizmo would need to inside of another to adjust,sort of like a vertical drawer with the bottom gone

I assume you mean something like:     \__/
That would make the unit a lot wider especially if you wanted all of the rollers to actually roll.  I used one of those "mini" rollers used for cutting in or touching up.  Wanted to keep the size to a minimum.  A standard paint roller would have required a lot taller ears which means that the coupler would not have been large enough, so the roller bracket would have to made from something else and probably heavier.

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: johninthecamper on January 06, 2014, 12:10:17 PM
no, a vee.if it was made with two,twisting could happen."one"angled," two" angled the other way","three"as number "one"
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: ricardox on February 11, 2014, 09:55:57 AM
 8) This is why I joined this forum great ideas and willing to share images.  Hope I can find an alternative square u shape PVC or similar material, wife will kill me if i cook a PVC pipe in the oven.
Decided I needed to try one of these so I built one for a tripod.  Used a 3 inch PVC coupler with a little trimmed off one side (to allow it to open).  Heated it in an oven at 210 deg for about 10 minutes (be careful since if it gets too hot it will put off toxic fumes).  Then stretched it open enough to get a 2X4 in it.  Added another 2X4 to the back side and clamped it with a large C clamp until it cooled.  This gave me the wide flat area.  Trimmed the "ears" so that were fairly even.  The paint roller is about 1.25 inches in dia and now about 3.5 inches long (originally was 6 inches). When I cut it, I inserted a pice of plastic tubing in the end that did not have the hole for the roller handle in order to keep it straight on the bolt. 

I bored a hole in the center of the coupler for a 3 inch bolt to mount to the tripod.  I added a washer to the bolt head so it wouldn't pull through easily and a washer and nut on the back side. I had a wood dowel that fit the tripod upright so I bored a vertical hole through it, inserted the rest of the bolt and put a locking nut on the end.  The dowel fits tight in the tube.

When it gets warmer, I'll test it.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on February 11, 2014, 11:34:10 AM
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac325/Oldgringo/DSCN2218.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Oldgringo/media/DSCN2218.jpg.html)

Here's mine and it does work.  It has about 2" of vertical adjustment.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: johnnail on February 11, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
Hmmmm....... Wouldn't a paper towel holder and a fresh roll work?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on February 11, 2014, 11:45:55 AM
[imghttp://(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac325/Oldgringo/AirRifles003-Copy.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Oldgringo/media/AirRifles003-Copy.jpg.html)][/img]
One more view of my roller rest and 25 yard range off of the patio.  The back stop is pretty well splintered.



Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on February 11, 2014, 11:52:18 AM
Hmmmm....... Wouldn't a paper towel holder and a fresh roll work?
I suspect that the weight of the AG would crush/flatten a roll of paper towels in pretty short order.  Maybe a swimming pool noodle on a dowel might work?  I found my paint roller in the garage.  It has a plastic core rather than cardboard; even so, it will require replacement before long.
Title: Re: My Version
Post by: Bill in SC on February 11, 2014, 11:53:20 AM
I built one of these rests today out of some wood scraps. I did a variation that allows for several vertical adjustments. This simple rest is really quite useful. I am still fiddling with it and plan to compare it with my MTM Predator rest.

That is the idea I had in mind. adjustable

Bill in SC
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: ricardox on February 11, 2014, 01:40:14 PM
Looks nice and light, what was your brothers feedback on accuracy with this rest.  Does it tip over when springer is discharged?
Here's a PVC version I just made for my brother & his very hold sensitive RWS 48 .177:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M8cjmg9byLg/Uc8Itj6CEyI/AAAAAAAAAcs/UnntJt8i9Zg/w478-h670-no/PVC+Shooting+Rest+1.jpg)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Roadworthy on October 10, 2014, 12:50:09 PM
I haven't seen anything on this in awhile so I thought I'd drag it up for those who may have never seen it.  I use a paint roller rest directly under the forearm of my springers with excellent results.  I have found some improvement by laying a sponge across the roller and taping it in place.  I then rest the gun on the sponge.  I get better results than having my hand in there.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: gene_sc on October 10, 2014, 08:13:03 PM

Hey Bob, that is pipe insolation tubes cut in half and glued to the PVC pipe. They were made so the outside of tubes were kinda hard and would allow the stock to move for recoil.  I later changed this setup to an adjustable roller like what others here are posting. After so many years of shooting springers and gas rams, I ended up just using a bag. Takes allot of shots to learn how to allow for recoil, and timing of pellet to exit the barrel. And with some springers, depending on power and length of barrels it takes some adjusting to the free style hold I use/artillery hold.

Gene


HEY gene.... is that a roller?.... had to tell from the photos....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: redfish on June 19, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
This works!!

I have a new springer that it still in the breaking in process, about 60 shots so far (this is my first rifle ever). Shooting indoor bench rest at 8 yds with open sights, I was getting flyers with the groups opening up to about 1 inch. On impulse and out of a little frustration I decided to rest the rifle on a roller brush cover with about 3/4 inch nap length. I removed the roller brush cover from the frame and placed it on a chair, then I rested the rifle on the same spot for each shot, using the forestock screws as a guide. I took 10 shots and placed all into 1 ragged hole in the lower half of a 1/2 inch bullseye!!

Now my mind is at ease because I know what the rifle is capable of, up to me now to practice some patience and proper technique.

I'm going to build a permanent roller brush bench rest and try shooting over longer distances.

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: GD Giles on November 30, 2015, 08:44:35 AM
I know this thread has been around for a while but I was searching the forum for a home made gun rest and this popped up. What a fantastic idea; can't wait to try it. Since it's been inactive for a while thought I'd bring it back for other noobs like me. Since it's been a while from the first builds, any mods or improvements? Anyone do a version 2 that helped in some way?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on November 30, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
I use a simple trim roller, as shown in the original photo.... although now in an adjustable height frame.... It seems to last a VERY long time, I've never replaced it.... No reason to look for a more complicated or expensive solution, IMO....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: nervoustrigger on November 30, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
Same here, it's simple and effective.  I use it any time I'm helping someone with a springer, to better evaluate what the rifle is capable of doing, not the manner in which my hold or technique may degrade it.  Making the height adjustable is the one thing I would do differently if making a new one.

Otherwise the next upgrade step is a PCP ;D

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Underdog on March 03, 2016, 03:41:33 PM
Sorry to bring this back up, but I've started to build a rest for my new HW95. I'm wanting to make sure my groups are what the gun will do with certain pellets and also whether it's sighted in, and not just my crappy artillery hold.

1) If this roller is for the forestock end of the gun, what are you all doing with the rear part of the gun?

I'm using open sights, and I have to hold the toe of the butt way up on top of my shoulder just to get the sights lined up... I'm kinda puzzled by that. I did much better on the last target, but it's still pathetic for 20 yards.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 03, 2016, 05:07:09 PM
Quote
I have to hold the toe of the butt way up on top of my shoulder just to get the sights lined up
Sounds like you need to mount your target further up, or make a shorter roller mount?....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: wolfdog on March 03, 2016, 06:56:23 PM
Know it is an old thread but it is new to me and just one more thing to help a newb
Thanks Mike
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: T-Higgs on March 03, 2016, 07:30:05 PM
Quote
I have to hold the toe of the butt way up on top of my shoulder just to get the sights lined up
Sounds like you need to mount your target further up, or make a shorter roller mount?....

Bob
Bob, I could be misunderstanding him, but I think he is saying that he is having trouble getting a comfortable cheek weld and line of sight across the iron sights. Comb too high probably.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Underdog on March 03, 2016, 10:35:35 PM
What T-Higgs said. The stock just doesn't drop enough, or the sights are too low basically. It would work really well if there was a scope on the thing.
But my question is also about how to hold the butt, if you've allowed for the forestock to move freely on a roller...
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on March 03, 2016, 11:18:54 PM
I just hold the gun lightly against my (right) shoulder.... usually with my left hand under the toe of the butt, acting like an adjustable shim.... I find it generally works best with the roller a bit ahead of the balance point of the rifle.... but of course all springers have their own favourite way of being held.... I just found the groups tightened up with the roller.... and as an added benefit the POI was closer to where it is offhand as well....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Underdog on March 04, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
I just hold the gun lightly against my (right) shoulder.... usually with my left hand under the toe of the butt, acting like an adjustable shim.... I find it generally works best with the roller a bit ahead of the balance point of the rifle.... but of course all springers have their own favourite way of being held.... I just found the groups tightened up with the roller.... and as an added benefit the POI was closer to where it is offhand as well....

Bob

So the forestock is balanced on the roller just ahead of the balance point, left hand is under the toe of the butt stock, butt stock lightly resting against your shoulder, and the right hand is pulling the trigger. Is the right hand gripping the pistol grip?

If I'm propping on my elbows, I have the forestock resting lightly on my left hand flat palm on the balance  point. When I get the sights lined up, the toe of the butt is high on my shoulder resting lightly, and my right hand cannot rightly grip the pistol grip. I just rest the thumb somewhere on the (*back of the pistol grip) stock to brace the trigger finger, which rests on the trigger and maybe drags slightly on the guard.
This gave me my best groups at 20 yards so far.

I have no bags or roller rest yet.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on March 04, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
Rest your thumb lightly at the top of the stock directly behind the trigger it makes it easier not to twist the rifle
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Underdog on March 04, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
Rest your thumb lightly at the top of the stock directly behind the trigger it makes it easier not to twist the rifle
That's pretty much what I've been doing on my bench. But I can't seem to get a consistent cheek weld that is light enough, and get the sights lined up and level without canting or yawing left.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: JimQwerty123 on March 04, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Any chance of making this thread a sticky?

Some real good ideas here.

Thanks,

Jim
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Nvreloader on December 05, 2017, 05:08:40 PM
Ok Guys

I just found this post on the roller rest,
Thanks Guys, all the info given is for a springer type AR,
and I am not sure what they are, maybe a break bbl?

As I shoot what is called free style, forearm resting on the front rest, a small squeeze bag under the toe,
which is adjustable for minor height adjustments to align the cross hairs, and the rifle is in free recoil, when fired,
and this goes for PB rifles or rear grip pistol in all calibers etc.

Would this roller type of rest work for any other AR types, like a PCP QB 79 etc?

It would have to be adjustable for heights for use.

Tia,
Don

Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: rsterne on December 06, 2017, 01:33:20 AM
I see no reason it should not work for other air rifles.... though there may be no advantage over a bag, or a solid gun rest....  However, springers are unique in their double recoil, and it really helps them.... Height adjustment is easy, just have multiple holes in the side plates for the axle....

Bob
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Nvreloader on December 06, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
Thanks Bob

I just happen to have the required lumber setting here for a build,
so I guess I'll get busy building,
along with all the other projects I have going on.   ::)

Tia,
Don
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Artie on December 06, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
I could never get the hang of the roller rest and I did alot of changing/testing. The gun would always rock a bit to the left or right. Especially hold sensitive guns. Groups tightened nicely when I switched to an eight pound rice bag.
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Daniel L on December 16, 2017, 06:42:48 AM
It's been an eye opener for me to see how badly my Cometa Fusion Gas Piston shot off Caldwell bags... I mean 2+ inch groups at 12 yards!!

I put my hand under the forearm and groups tightened.  Did some more shooting and found it likes to be pulled into the shoulder with a gentle grasp of the fore-end.

Definitely want to try this roller tho so I can confirm accuracy potential!
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Oldgringo on December 16, 2017, 12:09:41 PM
Here's one of the roller rests I made back then.  This one has about 2" vertical adjustment and it is heavy enough to be stable
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Nvreloader on December 17, 2017, 10:04:35 PM
Greg
Thank you,

I am not sure which thickness to but,
But I am thinking it should be a dense heavy thick type?

I have to go to Reno on the 18th, for my VA appt, and will pick up what I need there, It will less funds also.  ;)
I like the heavy base to hold it in place etc.....

Tia,
Don
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: my87csx481 on August 24, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
Sorry for the thread revival.  Happened upon this when searching for accuracy and pellet info/help.  I am having a hard time finding THE pellets for my rifle (HW97k .22).  Shooter technique (or lack of) is certainly causing problems.

Are you guys still finding this roller to be a decent tool for helping find a rifle's potential?

Anyone have noticeable results with a 97k?

There's a bunch of missing pictures in the thread (I know it's old, and several image hosting sites have made a mess of things).  Anyone have pictures to share of PVC versions?
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Hangtown-Shooter on August 24, 2020, 09:32:56 PM
 I used to carry one of these devices intended to help load a kayak back when I was driving an old Jeep Cherokee... I would suction-cup it right to the hood and shoot from a folding chair. Worked great! It could easily be modded for bench use.

https://www.wish.com/product/5e61dc8a039ce228ee0ed387?hide_login_modal=true&from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=US&_force_currency_code=USD&pid=googleadwords_int&c=%7BcampaignId%7D&ad_cid=5e61dc8a039ce228ee0ed387&ad_cc=US&ad_lang=EN&ad_curr=USD&ad_price=18.40&campaign_id=7203534630&gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGZqXsgxmvW68YZJundHY0kqTS7wHD_SEo2GRV1TUnyoCY8KFyfvQlhoCap4QAvD_BwE&share=web (https://www.wish.com/product/5e61dc8a039ce228ee0ed387?hide_login_modal=true&from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=US&_force_currency_code=USD&pid=googleadwords_int&c=%7BcampaignId%7D&ad_cid=5e61dc8a039ce228ee0ed387&ad_cc=US&ad_lang=EN&ad_curr=USD&ad_price=18.40&campaign_id=7203534630&gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGZqXsgxmvW68YZJundHY0kqTS7wHD_SEo2GRV1TUnyoCY8KFyfvQlhoCap4QAvD_BwE&share=web)
Title: Re: Springer Bench Rest That Works!
Post by: Gertrude on August 24, 2020, 10:37:25 PM
For what it's worth,
My 97k (.20 cal.) loves H&N FTT's

It will literally print hole in hole at 50yds if I do my part.