500+rds and she's still smoking

[.20cal fan]

everyone what gives?  my 95 in .22 is still kinda still smoking after 500+rds and this may sound weird, but when i shoot her, she smells like metal. but only when i shoot.  and is 21gr cudas to heavy for her?

[Novagun]

Smoke comes from burning. Probably there is hydrocarbon based grease getting into the compression chamber. If that is so it could be coming from the spring and is getting scooped by the piston seal.The seal could very well be burnt.Sounds like you need to strip it and have a look and a clean. Sometimes burnt grease can smell a bit metallic.

[.20cal fan]

I am kinda nervous to do so.  I worry if i mess it up in any way or form, then i got to wait on parts yada yada yada, but at the same time, i do want to do it so if there is ever a time for me to diagnose or solve a problem, more than likely, i can/will

[Springrrrr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZoSNSn4fP0Q

[DOKF]

I am kinda nervous to do so.  I worry if i mess it up in any way or form, then i got to wait on parts yada yada yada, but at the same time, i do want to do it so if there is ever a time for me to diagnose or solve a problem, more than likely, i can/will

Order some seals and Mo grease ahead of time.  Maybe also a spring / gas piston.  Then take your time stripping her down.

[nced]

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I am kinda nervous to do so.  I worry if i mess it up in any way or form, then i got to wait on parts yada yada yada, but at the same time, i do want to do it so if there is ever a time for me to diagnose or solve a problem, more than likely, i can/will

Here is a YouTube tuning video of a HW95........

The HW95/R9 are simpler to break down and rebuild than the HW77/97. The gun is of modular construction so the trigger group is a self contained unit with no parts held in place by the stock.

[RC1947]

Dieseling, that which creates the smoke, doesn't hurt your rifle.  It's the rifle's way of eliminating excess lube in the compression chamber.  Keep shooting and enjoy it. RC

[nced]

Dieseling, that which creates the smoke, doesn't hurt your rifle.  It's the rifle's way of eliminating excess lube in the compression chamber.  Keep shooting and enjoy it. RC

Doesn't NECESSARELY hurt the rifle unless there is detonation, however inconsistent dieseling will hurt accuracy !

[.20cal fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZoSNSn4fP0Q

thanks brother

[.20cal fan]

Dieseling, that which creates the smoke, doesn't hurt your rifle.  It's the rifle's way of eliminating excess lube in the compression chamber.  Keep shooting and enjoy it. RC

Doesn't NECESSARELY hurt the rifle unless there is detonation, however inconsistent dieseling will hurt accuracy !

Mr. Canoles,

It is weird, because i only smelled it when i shot the 21gr Cuda's

[56S]

Any chance you're smelling lead vapor?  Never gave it much thought before but it may be possible that combustion may cause very small amounts of lead vapors.  That's not good.

[nced]

Dieseling, that which creates the smoke, doesn't hurt your rifle.  It's the rifle's way of eliminating excess lube in the compression chamber.  Keep shooting and enjoy it. RC

Doesn't NECESSARELY hurt the rifle unless there is detonation, however inconsistent dieseling will hurt accuracy !

Mr. Canoles,

It is weird, because i only smelled it when i shot the 21gr Cuda's

Hummm......obviously something is burning with the "21 gr Cud's" that you aren't getting with other pellets. Could the smell be from combusted lubes or piston seal due to higher pressures? I really don't know since I've only used .177 cal in my R9s for more than a year (I used the .20 cal for a year before reverting back to .177), but here are a couple piston seal pics from my .177 R9 when I was tuning them to shoot CPLs at 910fps..........
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ONE of the reasons I switched to oring sealed piston caps a couple decades ago was to eliminate this sort of seal erosion. Here's a pic of an early oring sealed piston cap pulled for inspection after several thousand shots at 910-920fps.......
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[Petey]

As stated...open her up and clean it out...HW/Beemans are known to be swimming in lube...as opposed to RWS being dry as a bone.

Happy Shootin!
Petey

[ptpalpha]

Watch the video, take your time, take pics of any part of the breakdown that you think may be difficult to do in reverse, and have at it. 

[Brazos]

I do encourage people to build up the courage to take their spring rifles apart.  It will be a big asset to your air gun career to be able to do this.  It really is not hard though HW rifles have a few more pieces to screw with then an RWS for example.  Still not hard though.

As far as your new HW still smoking after 500 shots I tend to find that normal for an HW and personally wouldn't worry about it.  My advice is to keep shooting.  I think a lot of people read these forums and drive themselves crazy thinking they have a defective gun when they don't. 

[grauhanen]

Shoot another tin.  Don't use 21 grain pellets in an HW95/R9 as they don't do you or the gun any favors.  Pellets weighing 16 grains are plenty heavy for that gun.  If it's still smoking after 1000 shots then disassemble and remove the factory lube.  Lube the gun sparingly with moly.  Some guns take a bit longer than others to eliminate excess lubrication.

[.20cal fan]

not sure brother.  guess anything is possible.

Any chance you're smelling lead vapor?  Never gave it much thought before but it may be possible that combustion may cause very small amounts of lead vapors.  That's not good.

[.20cal fan]

got to order a seal and some lube 1st.  don't want to do it and find a burnt, chipped/cut seal and then put it back like that.

As stated...open her up and clean it out...HW/Beemans are known to be swimming in lube...as opposed to RWS being dry as a bone.

Happy Shootin!
Petey