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Offline Pelle

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Re: New C600
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2022, 09:16:29 PM »
  At least no gas leaks at all. I finally blasted a few pellets, for kinda real at a heavy can half filled with screws or something. Not the damage I hoped for but ok. The trigger went limp a few times and I needed to fool with the charger slide. It had a couple good runs thou. I just spread some lithium grease around under the sideplate and it seems good. A barrel hex screw is there but the barrel looks like its very thick with no way to move it. As to a teardown, I don't have a great record and often can't get the last.01% after seemingly doing well
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Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2022, 09:11:45 PM »
 Just keep plugging away, grateful to be on the outside of this thing. With the links etc. I figure out the barrel does move and a little rod moves back and forth to hold the pivot that fell out when loosening set screw. The pivot pellet hole was beat up and burr-ey. I cleaned it up and set a .025 +/- gap. I used a rod to line up the pivot if that is happening assuming some leeway with the one set screw. I think there are two on some models. It hand cycles very smoothly now. I fired a few today and had to remove beat up and stuck pellets in the pivot. This seemed to keep it out of battery and wouldnt fire. It did shoot a few in a row and I think will be better now.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2022, 09:00:37 AM »
I think you mean to say you set the barrel to give a feed arm gap of .0025 rather than .025?   The fact that you have only one setscrew holding the arm in place will not affect its function (short-term anyway), note that it sets into a divot in the cam rod - the second screw is only there to lock the first one against loosening in use.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2022, 05:32:50 PM »
 You are correct, Sir, .0025. A cam rod, gonna remember that. If this goes with improved function, I will locktite it.  I saw and used the divot and glad it was locked in place from rotation.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2022, 12:31:16 AM »
I'd be cautious with loctite.  You might need to disassemble it to clear a jam.  I have once or twice over a few thousand pellets.
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Re: New C600
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2022, 08:54:36 AM »
    Its nice to know it can come apart, It seems strange that it doesnt open enough to knock a deformed pellet out. I probably will use some blue on it. There is my heatgun that sealed it up, extremely nicely, if needed.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2022, 02:33:48 PM »
Well I am concerned on the health of my heatgun. Yesterday I went thru a few half mag loads with no failures at all. I left her uncharged and not in the cold. I wanted to put a couple drops in and it dumped the whole,new, cartridge out the barrel. I did not cock it it first and when I did, after another heat treatment it appears fine again. Is this a big reason to cock before charging?
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2022, 05:10:50 PM »
In my limited experience... yes.
 Mine dumped cart after cart when I got it.
But being the head strong duff that I am I kept oiling a fresh cart and trying again.
Eventually she came around. I must cock it before inserting a new oiled cart, and it only feeds wad-cutters consistently.
But that is good enough for me. ;)
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Re: New C600
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2022, 10:36:08 PM »
If its good good enough for Scott and my little miss Crosman, its plenty good for me and hopefully never forget the lesson
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2022, 08:01:59 PM »
   Well I forgot the lesson and had only a tiny leak.  More importantly, I see there is two set screws on the pivot. I thought a second one would be locking in the main one from a ninety  degree angle. WRONG. Its good now. Gun works great and got my blow-by down by 75%. Serious power now and my first PA order in before Tues. YAY German pellets and Happy New Year :D :D
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2023, 07:47:27 PM »
   Oh yeah works great :'( :'(.. So my 600 was charged from a couple days ago but was empty when testing, today. I drew down on the basement target and got nothing. A new cartridge began moderately leaking from the cap. I guess an O ring let go due to recent and ongoing freezing figuring this new gun out. I have several new rings and hope its the large one. It did shoot a very small 2 shot group
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2023, 06:25:14 PM »
 My cap didnt want to come apart too easily so I just cleaned some junk around it and the thread grits that look like it kept the cap from fully seating. A new cartridge seems tight but will check and report in a day or 2 lol
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2023, 04:49:53 PM »
 Not sure where all my new dirt came from but my cap seems all pressurized and waiting for, weekend, club opening. Some neighbors hate the place from a mile away and the club bigshots are total fascists who would go ballistic shooting on a closed range with a bb gun.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2023, 09:10:43 PM »
   I wasted precious gas again going to range.The thing was totally gasless. Does anyone know how to get my cap apart? I managed the spring clip and the screw in at the piercer but see no way to get this apart to get the small ring. The main oring did need replacement so its back together now and charged and quiet.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2023, 09:57:57 PM »
Hi Rocky,
You don't need to remove the spring clip, just the retainer. You may already know this by now?....





Just pry out (or dig out if it's completely oxidized) the old o-ring and replace with a new 005. I use cast urethane in 70D. A little more money but I'll spend the nickel.
Use some light-weight oil (e.g. 20wt ND) when you install the new o-ring and keep it oiled periodically for proper maintenance - hth

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Re: New C600
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2023, 07:25:44 AM »
Thanks Gary, I was there after making a tool to get that retainer out. The seal looked good but now I will know what to do.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2023, 08:55:28 PM »
Another weekend coming up and it looks like success after 3 or 4 failed attempts. My cap doesnt want to move which is good and, unlike me, in that position.
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2023, 09:06:35 AM »
  My pistol held strong and seemed to be functioning but the new Miester klunker pellets immediately jammed by half coming out the loading hole. I loaded her up with some heavy Gamo semi domed pellets for another test. Only 8 now (pellets)
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2023, 10:09:29 PM »
  Well that didnt go at all but some Crosmans HPs fired with no trouble. I have a working gun
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.

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Re: New C600
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2023, 05:48:04 PM »
 I found a new package of Crosman 14.3 Premiers. Its a new look at WM but the domed hollow point is definitely the pellet for this. Both the new look and old cycle perfectly. I never considered these but see it mentioned in a search
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Gamo HUNTER yr. 2001.laser only.... 1950s Crosman  140 and 160.peep.. .1974.Sheridan Blue Streak peep... Daisy 426 HI Point lite BB....Crosman 1600 BB..
Crosman Mark 1 1st issue....Crosman 1177 NEW....Daisy 188..Crosman C11  UZI looking thing w laser. stock C11 new.  First copy Crosman 600 Mint atm //////....Crosman 760 1st issue and SA-6....IN pieces, both after massive work.