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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => China/Asian AirGun Gate => Topic started by: avator on July 13, 2022, 03:20:14 PM
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Yeah, I know, there is another thread already on the MK2.
But this is MY MK2 and MY experience with it.
I will be as thorough as possible while keeping things as simple as possible.
We won't be doing mods, over pumping, replacing springs or hogging out valves or ports.
If that's your thing then you might want to head over to another DF MK2 thread.. ;)
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Originally I wasn't interested in the MK2.
I didn't have the need for another pumper and wasn't in the market for one.
I was also put off by all the rigamorol surrounding the first SPA pumper and the Butterfly.
I don't do pre order and I dislike vaporware, empty promises and click bait.
IMO, the DF MK2 checked a couple of those boxes.
However, I do own and appreciate a few examples of SPA guns for various reasons including, in some cases, the 'lego' factor. In other cases, I see a level of quality in materials along with the overall fit and finish.
Price is another attraction.... I could do alot less for alot more. Another plus is availability.
As an example is this purchase..
I ordered the gun from Pyramyd Air on Friday 7/8. I got confirmation almost immediately and the gun came from Solon, Ohio (up near Lake Erie) to my door in lower Alabama in 5 days via FedEx Ground. Not 5 business days.. 5 days including the weekend.
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The gun arrived double boxed. The outer box was a bit oversized but there was paper packing in it to keep the inner box safe and sound.
As for the inner box... nice. It has a form fitted foam insert to protect the gun much like guns costing a whole lot more.
BTW... it was $210 to my door.
The gun came with an owner's manual, a single shot tray, 1 9 round magazine (.177) and a ziploc back of orings and repair items.
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As I said, FedEx delivered the gun to my house this morning while I was at work.
I take an hour lunch break everyday and go home (I live about 2 miles from work).
After I ate a bite I opened the box and had a pretty good look at the gun.
Again, I am pretty impressed with the quality and overall looks of the SPA guns.
On first impression.. the gun seems longer than many pumpers. Not crazy long, just longer.
It also has a screw off cap on the muzzle that exposes threads to add an LDC (silencer) if you so choose... I do not so choose.
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The gun came with the single shot tray installed.
As per the instructions, you need to cock the gun to pump it up.
When the pump arm is completely closed it take a good effort to pop it open but, you don't have to completely close the pump arm between strokes.
The pumping process was somewhat awkward and jerky. I think with proper lubing and break in this will smooth out.
The bolt was smooth and easy to cock. The trigger was smooth and solid feeling.
I pumped the gun 4 strokes and each one felt like it took the same effort.
I dry fired the gun and it SNAPPED with authority. Rambo took cover in the back bedroom.
The only thing I noticed was a bit of poor alignment between the pump handle and stock when the pump arm was closed. I opened the pump arm and gave it a little push to one side and it seemed to fit better. I'll have a closer look at that when I have more time.
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Ok so, that was all I had time to do before my lunch break was over.
Up to this point, I am impressed with what I've seen.. as I expected.
Like I said.. I have always appreciated the SPA line up. This one is no different.... so far.
I will be paroled from work at 5:00pm CT today. I'll run to the local Marathon and grab a 12 pack... ;) ;D
Then I plan to go home, slap the Hawke Vantage 2-7x32 AO scope that I have set aside on the gun and sling a few pellets downrange before darkness falls.
I have a couple .177 CARM mags that I'll be using in this one.
However, chrono numbers will have to wait until the weekend when I have more time.
I'll try to get the gun lubed proberly, sighted in and broken in between now and then.
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Something I noticed in the manual. I thought I would point it out because.... well because, who reads the manual?
The below excerpt clearly states "DO NOT use any lubricant containing petroleum".
The next line reads "Approved lubricants include 10, 20, or 30 weight non-detergent automotive motor oil and pure silicone lubricants".
I assume that means synthetic 10, 20 or 30 wt ND.
Would you agree?
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Something I noticed in the manual. I thought I would point it out because.... well because, who reads the manual?
The below excerpt clearly states "DO NOT use any lubricant containing petroleum".
The next line reads "Approved lubricants include 10, 20, or 30 weight non-detergent automotive motor oil and pure silicone lubricants".
I assume that means synthetic 10, 20 or 30 wt ND.
Would you agree?
Maybe Crosman Pellgun oil to be safe?
Can you compare the Dragonfly with the Crosman 2100/2200, the Sheridan Blue Streak, and/or the Benjamin 392?
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I can but to be honest, nothing is going to compare with the Sheridan Blue Streak.
IMO that is in a class all it's own.
I like the 2100 but the loading port is fiddly for sausage fingers like mine. I use sqweesers to load them. I also put wood furniture on mine... 1000 times better than with the plastic.
And as for the Crosman 392s.. put it this way, I have one in the classifieds if interested... :o I'll ship it to you for the same money I paid for the MK2.. it'll even come with a piccatiny scope mount... ;)
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That does bring a good point to mind... something I'll need to look at..
Many of us do something to our pumpers to quiet the clackety clack sound of the pumping.
What few times (4) that I pumped this gun today, is seemed pretty loud in that aspect.
I don't know if that will quiet after break in or if something will need to be done.
More on this later.
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For me, a better comparison may be to my Crosman 362 guns.
Both of those have been converted to .177.
I pump those 5 times to fill my needs. It will be interesting to see how many strokes the MK2 takes to achieve the same power levels.
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Yeah, the Blue streak is a .20 cal. and the 392 a .22. Not really a fair comparison there.
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It's flippin HOT out there. We had an afternoon shower but it didn't cool it down... maybe even made it hotter/more humid.
I turned the commercial fan on but it just blew hot air on me.
However, I was able to tap the rear sight off and mount the Hawke Vantage 2-7x32 AO scope on low rings. That left perfect clearance for both the factory or the CARM mag.
Awesome, I like the scope as close to the center of the bore as possible. The scope is still tall enough to make a comfortable cheek weld. This just might be the perfect scope for this gun. It's light weight and don't add a ton to the overall weight of the gun.
Very walk about friendly.
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Maybe some of you experienced the hard pellet loading issues with other SPA mag fed guns. I found that some work on the leade all but eliminated it. There was also one of those hard brown orings in there that added to the hard loading.
Relax, I didn't find that an issue with this gun.. at all. The bolt cycled nice and smooth with the factory and CARM mags. I doubt there will be any of that cocking knob breakage that we had before.
Some may say... it's a pumper, what advantage is there with a mag? Well, loaded mags are easier to carry that a tin of pellets. In this case, .177 pellets and sausage fingers don't make for fun shooting sessions.
Load a mag, cycle the bolt, set the safety and pump the gun. Aim the gun, flip the safety off and fire... rinse and repeat.
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That brings us to the trigger.
It's a longer first stage pull than I like and it's a bit gritty but I think that will smooth out with proper lube, maybe a polish. Not sure if anything can be done to shorten the pull, I'll have a look later.
The let off is predictable and will most likely get better with some attention.
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Pumping the gun...
Probably my least favorite thing about the gun. I find it awkward but I may get used to it as it breaks in and do a proper lube/grease.
You have to be sure to open the pump arm all the way to the top for each stroke but you don't have to close it all the way home for each stroke. That's a good thing because locks down pretty good and takes some effort to open it. Again, something that may break in.
I was sighting in and shooting at 10 meters into a high strength steel blank that are used to make stamped automotive parts. At 5 pumps the sound of the 10.5gr lead pellet hitting steel sound to me like 4 pumps in the Crosman 362 in .177 with the same pellet... maybe even a bit harder. That will be determined once I break out the chrono.
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Accuracy...
WOW... probably the shining moment of the session. I didn't even so much as clean the barrel.
Not often you find a pellet that the gun likes on the first try. In this case it was the H&N Match 10.5gr. I saw no reason to even try any others.
3 shots to sight in then stacking pellets at 10 meters and 5 pumps. Even with that trigger the way it is.
For gits and shiggles I pumped 6 pumps and flipped up one of the resettable flippers at 35 yds. Easy peasy. I think this is going to be a 6 or 7 pump gun for 35yds all day long.
That may seem a bit much for most pumper guys that use 5 pumps but remember, after the 3rd pump, the effort remains the same.
And no, that is not a marketing farce... it really is the same effort.
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Ok, at that point the heat was unbearable and I gave up the ghost and ran for cover of the AC in the house.
My thoughts at this point? I like the gun.. not sure if I love the gun yet but I'm not ready to box it up and return it. That awkward pumping and pump arm lock up is the only downside I see this far. And like I said.. that may work itself out as it breaks in.
I'll spend another hour or so shooting the gun after work for the rest of the week, weather permitting, then get the chrono out to get some stats this weekend. Also some side by side comparisons with some other pumpers that I have around here.
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Right on par with my .22 experience, things smooth out, the long weird trigger pull may be that adjustment screw working its way in , give that a polish and some locktite when you find your trigger happy place. :)
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I can but to be honest, nothing is going to compare with the Sheridan Blue Streak.
IMO that is in a class all it's own.
I like the 2100 but the loading port is fiddly for sausage fingers like mine. I use sqweesers to load them. I also put wood furniture on mine... 1000 times better than with the plastic.
And as for the Crosman 392s.. put it this way, I have one in the classifieds if interested... :o I'll ship it to you for the same money I paid for the MK2.. it'll even come with a piccatiny scope mount... ;)
Thanks for all this information! I've been eyeing the Dragonfly for a while, but I've got a vintage Daisy 717 coming in the mail tomorrow and that just about does it for my budget for a little bit.
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I’m following your review, Bill. I was interested in this rifle, possibly to give to my stepdad, then wasn’t sure. He’s got medical issues and doesn’t have any airguns anymore. I intend to get a rifle, clean the barrel, break it in a bit and make sure it’s a good fit for him. If I liked the Dragonfly and it’s a good fit for my stepdad, I might get one for myself to shoot side by side with my little shooting partner.
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Thanks fellas...
John, If he has any physical issues this may not be the gun for him due to that pumping thing. At least when it's new, it's not a pleasurable thing. Opening the pump arm being the worst part.
IMO a 362 with a steel breech may be a better choice for him.
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I find the belly up in the lap method best for comfortable pumping, I use that for harder to pump guns, and the DFMK2 after an hour or so of solid shooting.
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Thanks fellas...
John, If he has any physical issues this may not be the gun for him due to that pumping thing. At least when it's new, it's not a pleasurable thing. Opening the pump arm being the worst part.
IMO a 362 with a steel breech may be a better choice for him.
That’s what I was thinking… I figured I’d see how you do with yours, then might try one for myself. I don’t have a single pumper in my own stable, I wasn’t that interested until the MkII came out.
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John, remember, the MK2 is a tall gun. It's a pretty good reach to open that pump arm all the way. And it has to be opened all the way for each stroke.
That said, when I owned the Aspen and Freedom I would lay them across my lap belly up and pump them.
That's a good point James.
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John, remember, the MK2 is a tall gun. It's a pretty good reach to open that pump arm all the way. And it has to be opened all the way for each stroke.
That said, when I owned the Aspen and Freedom I would lay them across my lap belly up and pump them.
That's a good point James.
You know… I could maybe do both… a steel breach 362 and a DF MKII in .22 and give my stepdad the one he likes. ;D
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John, remember, the MK2 is a tall gun. It's a pretty good reach to open that pump arm all the way. And it has to be opened all the way for each stroke.
That said, when I owned the Aspen and Freedom I would lay them across my lap belly up and pump them.
That's a good point James.
You know… I could maybe do both… a steel breach 362 and a DF MKII in .22 and give my stepdad the one he likes. ;D
John now you are thinking like a GTA airgunner :)
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John, remember, the MK2 is a tall gun. It's a pretty good reach to open that pump arm all the way. And it has to be opened all the way for each stroke.
That said, when I owned the Aspen and Freedom I would lay them across my lap belly up and pump them.
That's a good point James.
You know… I could maybe do both… a steel breach 362 and a DF MKII in .22 and give my stepdad the one he likes. ;D
Sounds like a plan.. I could see you shooting an MK2 and enjoying it. As I said in my review... the accuracy was surprising right out of the box. The 362 is also an accurate gun but mine were both converted to .177 very early in the game.
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I really had to back pedal on my early opinion of a mag on a pumper. I really didn't see it as an advantage. But now that I've experienced it, I really like the convenience of my next pellet already loaded.
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I find the belly up in the lap method best for comfortable pumping, I use that for harder to pump guns, and the DFMK2 after an hour or so of solid shooting.
As for myself, I currently find that placing the butt of my Dragonfly on my right shoe and then releasing the forearm to pump my chosen number of strokes to plink at the varied steel targets on our range. I find myself enamored with this gun as another plinker when I need a break from shooting my TX200. Fun gun, still a bit stiff, but then so am I in the morning before coffee and moving about a bit.
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Laying a pumper upside down in your lap is also a good way to pump up rifles that are scoped. Just position the scope between your knees & start pumping.
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Im thru about 1/2 a tin of Crosman Premier hollow points, and feel a difference in pumping already. At times it almost feels gritty pumping, but i just lube it up and when it gets smooth, its SMOOTH. Alot of the pumping clack noise is coming from the pump linkage pivot pins- the linkage pin holes are too oversized and have too much slop. Bronze bushings in those spots would take care of that, but then the gun would cost $300.
I put a moderator on (.22) , and 15 pumps didn't seem much louder than 4 pumps. Shooting for me is limited to 20 yards, so 4 pumps works fine. 3 pumps at 20 yards and pellets drop, so 4 pumps it is.
Im shooting off the back of a chair with a towel on top, so the gun still moves around quite a bit. Even so, my groups are about 1", and if i go up to 10 pumps, my groups tighten to 1/2".
I love using the magazine! It takes less than a minute to load, and I will definitely be buying a few extras.
I cleaned the barrel after the first 50 shots, and it was dirty. Accuracy didnt change, and seems to get better the more I shoot it.
(Oddly, I cleaned my no-name, underlever chinese springer at the same time, and wish I didnt. Shots are all over now, and I cant hit anything! I digress.)
My only complaint about the Dragonfly is that the bolt requires alot of effort to initially pull back, trigger feels stiff, and the pump linkage might have been made a bit tighter. This gun is far from being broken-in, and will probably get better and better.
The gun is definitely a keeper and fun to shoot.
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I made a point to burnish some moly powder into those pivot points with a small stiff artist brush, IMO the slack in the linkage may be needed to allow easier fitment in manufacturing, may not be beneficial to improve on that ATM.
Not sure if you saw the pumping tip from a Pyramid Air video, but one does not have to fully close the pump arm to achieve a full compression stroke.
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Yessir.. I don't close it all the way between strokes.
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I just received my Mk2, .22 cal., yesterday. The attraction for me was the equal effort on each pump stroke. I have arthritis in my shoulders and wrists, and my 392 is a problem past about 5 or 6 pumps. So I don't shoot it very much.
I did clean the barrel first off and it took a pile of patches to get it to just a 'tiny bit of color' still showing, but called it good enough and started shooting. I only have 21 feet in my basement, but I can usually get sights at least centered up and, using Chair Gun, pretty close to hitting on at 20 yds. in the backyard.
Scope and rings will be here from Amazon tomorrow, but I had to shoot, so I used the open sights. Even with my bad eyes, as stated by others, I was very pleased with accuracy. Even though 7 yds. isn't a real test, I've found if the pellets are going through the same hole down there, they aren't going to be too bad later. And they were... going through the same hole.
I got the 10 for 10 from PA... cheap insurance IMO... that I have a working gun when I get it. I tried two different pellets and both met or exceeded PA chronograph numbers with 11.9 gr. ammo. I used HN Barracuda Green, 12.96gr. and JSB Jumbo RS, 13 43gr. I tried 6 pumps and 10 pumps, but since pumping effort is not bad, I've been sticking to 10 for now. Haven't pumped it any further than that. I'm getting right around 13 fpe.
I recorded velocities while I was adjusting the sights, but accidentally wiped out the string before saving it. However, it was really consistent over, maybe, 15 shots at 6 pumps. I did save two 5 shot strings, one each with each pellet, just to have a record of velocity to use on Chair Gun.
Thanks for the tip about not needing to close the forearm completely. Makes a big difference when pumping. Thought about removing the rear sight, but decided to just get higher rings and keep it in place, since I got it, more or less, zeroed at close distance. Which is all my eyes can handle, with open sights, anyway.
In the short time I've had this gun, and maybe 30 -50 shots, I'm pretty pleased. If it's durable, it's going to be fun. Can't wait for the scope.
BTW, I did try a Buck Rail moderator on it and it's quiet. I don't think anyone would even blink an eye if they heard you shoot...and that's if they even heard you.
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Here we go. All dressed up and ready to go.
(https://i.imgur.com/Wu1xGGI.jpg)
...and it shoots, too. Five shot groups with JSB 13.43gr.(L) and HN Bara.18, 18.13gr.(R), 10 pumps. Now this is only at 7 yds. in my basement, but not every gun and ammo will do this for me. The one shot outside the hole on the right was my fault on the trigger, so I sent #6 down to make five in the hole. Dying to see what it does at 25 yds.
(https://i.imgur.com/HKNdf6c.jpg)
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Looks like we may have kinda left this thread hanging.... totally my fault as I jumped in on other threads about this gun.
I spotted it in the locked gun cabinet in the house today when I was looking for something else. I totally forgot what I got in the case for when I came across it. So I grabbed it up and headed for the Red Shed. BTW... I found that misplaced CARM mag... :-\
At the bench I started trying to think when and if I lubed this gun and, to be honest, I don't think I did. So that was my first course of action. I chose to use Secret Sauce. Tim's magic juice has always done me well over the years and, as they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. After all, he has alot more pumper experience than me.
A few drops on the wiper and all moving joints seems to have made miracles happen.
Last year I had a severe Shingles attack and it was mainly on the palm of my right hand. This made pumping an airgun anything but pleasant. I'm all but back to normal now aside from some lingering tingling in my fingers... some days more than others.
Pumping, all of a sudden, has become much smoother and I don't feel the binding on the up stroke like I did before.
I LOVE the CARM mag... so easy to load those small .177 in and zero binding during the cocking cycle. Much easier to put into the gun as well. As the factory mags get worn in the plastic rotating cover tends to rotate when trying to fumble the mags into the breech. The other nice thing about the CARM is 'topping off' the mag. Just spin the spring loaded dial and replace the missing pellets.
Pumping...
Here's where many opinions will differ from mine. I'm not a 'more power' kinda guy when it comes to airguns. I have absolutely no reason to pump this gun 15 times when 5-7 do anything I may use it for. If I need more power I will go in the house and get a gun that takes a heck of alot less time and effort than rowing this boat across the pond.
At 6 strokes, this gun is deadly accurate with the H&N 10.65 Match pellets (my go to pellet in .177) at my 35 - 40 yds. range. a .22 might take more. I'm not sure how this gun would be in the hunting/pesting scenario.. pumping don't strike me as being stealth. But at the bench, it's a very satisfying plinker/target shooter.
However, to be honest, I wouldn't trade my vintage Sheridans for one but the handsome wood and metal and the way the gun fits me. I would trade any 880 or 2100 for one.. ;)
I'm liking this gun more the more I shoot it.
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Thanks for the update, Bill… I had started thinking I didn’t need one… now again, I think I need to try one out and, again- consider one for my step-dad.
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Welcome John..
I'm pretty impressed with how it began to smooth out yesterday. That rough cocking effort had me worried when I first got the gun. Had me wondering if I made a bad choice. Accuracy has never been an issue and the all wood and metal construction is probably what encouraged me to continue working with it.
Like I said before, the CARM mags are another huge upgrade. The trigger is adjustable although I haven't found the need to do so yet.
The gun is as loud as any other pumper without some quieting device... like a Dan or 140. It's threaded for an LDC if you so desire.
I see PA has a .177 refurb right now for $159... seems like a good deal.
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I'm convinced, Bill!
Just bought a refurb 177 from PA
Ed
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Nice Ed...
Lube the joints and break it in.
Like I said... Secret Sauce worked well for me.
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Nice Ed...
Lube the joints and break it in.
Like I said... Secret Sauce worked well for me.
plus 2 drops Habanero oil per oz just to keep thing smokin'
Expected delivery Tuesday
Thanks, Bill
Hope you are well
Ed
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We're good Ed.
Stay well and shoot straight.. and often.
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Ed
Following along, looking forward to your review of the DF II,
what caliber are you getting?
Is there a diagram of the internal parts around somewhere?
Tia,
Don
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Ed
Following along, looking forward to your review of the DF II,
what caliber are you getting?
Is there a diagram of the internal parts around somewhere?
Tia,
Don
Don
I have a refurb 177 arriving this week.
As far as first impressions are concerned the shooting will wait until it's at least 50 degrees F
When in the city I shoot out an open window into the 30 yd range in the yarden
No worries
Spring is coming and the squirrels are babying up
Have not found a schematic other than this almost useless one on the PA website
https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-multi-pump-air-rifle/4514 (https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-multi-pump-air-rifle/4514)
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Thanks ED. 8)
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I think that PA schematic is for the original Dragonfly, not the DF II. I'd be interested in seeing one for the Gen II Dragonfly, along with a disassembly/re-assembly video, but I don't think it's been done yet.
I'm not brave enough to be the first one to take one apart, I'd rather someone else be the pioneer.
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I think that PA schematic is for the original Dragonfly, not the DF II. I'd be interested in seeing one for the Gen II Dragonfly, along with a disassembly/re-assembly video, but I don't think it's been done yet.
I'm not brave enough to be the first one to take one apart, I'd rather someone else be the pioneer.
The Schematic on PA is useless. That said, Ive had my Dragonfly2 apart a few times-thats what I do, I wanted to see how everything works. Its not too complicated, and this was the 1st airgun I disassembled.
Im going to open it up again this weekend & work on the transfer port and valve to see if any gain can be made. I have the .22 version.
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Frank
I would be interested in these measurements, (for figuring swept volume etc).
1. Diameter of the pressure tube?,
2. Distance from the air breather hole to the end of the valve?,
2a End of the valve shape, ie; tapered or flat?
3. Is the pump rod adjustable for overall length?
4. The total length of the pump rod from pivot point to end of pump rod?,
5. If possible a photo of the pump rod, and valve, it appears to have several parts/pieces attached?.
Thank you for your time and trouble,
Don
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So.
About that refurb 177 Dragonfly from PA
It would better be referred to as de-furbished.
But now that the issue is cleared up (without returning it) here are some first impressions.
Nicley crafted; especially considering the price.
The budget wood looks fine
It feels good in the hands, with just a bit of front heavy to the manageable weight.
On me, it shoulders (and cheeks) comfortably when using the OEM iron sights
The pumping, rough at first, has smoothed out nicely, and some aerosol Moly/Alcohol spray has cleanup the trigger and bolt.
Thanks, guys, for the hints on pumping across the legs while seated, and for the dry lube concept.
Currently shooting 7.9 CPHP pellets (because that's what I have) with about 150 rounds through it so far
(And I am curious to know which pellets you find shooting well in the 177)
I'll post some velocities for your comments after shooting some more.
Accuracy, off hand, out of the box, is very good.
FWIW
I have not yet cleaned the barrel
And am not sure I will
In short.
It's a keeper!
Ed
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I still want one of these, but it's low on my lost of priorities. Perhaps I'll hold out for Wes to get more of his 25 cal conversions in stock.
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Yeah, it's kinda making me like it.
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Yeah, it's kinda making me like it.
Yeah!
It's kind of fun to shoot.
FWIW
It's my first pumper.
And I'm enjoying the freedom from gauges and the relaxed pace of pumping
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Here is the correct diagram for the Dragon Fly II rifle,
some of the parts DO NOT FIT THE RIFLE,
https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart (https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart)
HTH's
Don
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Here is the correct diagram for the Dragon Fly II rifle,
some of the parts DO NOT FIT THE RIFLE,
https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart (https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart)
HTH's
Don
Explain please......"some of the parts DO NOT FIT THE RIFLE"
Thanks
Ed
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Ed
Look here at this part, the MK II does not have this part,
Seneca Dragonfly MK2 Air Reservoir Rubber Ball
Seneca Dragonfly MK2 Air Reservoir Rubber Ball
I think they just copied the MK I diagram for the MKII rifle,
Seneca Dragonfly MK2 Complete Piston part # 53,54,55
Now compare to the MKI diagram, hard to read,
but I remember a photo, that showed a a black rubber looking bumper/ball and other parts,
the MK II does not have any of these parts on the end of the pump rod.
Tia,
Don
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Here is the correct diagram for the Dragon Fly II rifle,
some of the parts DO NOT FIT THE RIFLE,
https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart (https://www.pyramydair.com/model-schematic/m/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle/5170#11990%20spart)
HTH's
Don
Better just be glad the gun is as inexpensive as it it. I clicked on several of the parts from the list above and each part comes up costing $3000.00 a piece, then you click on details and it says "unavailable" .
Got to be a flaw in their website for sure.
Ray
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Thanks, Don
I guess you don't find out until you take the gun apart.
Ray
I bet one of those $3000 hammer springs will get you 40FPE on 10 pumps
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There is a rubber ball in the receiver that is pinched between a grub screw and the bolt/probe. It is supposed to put some tension on the bolt to prevent it from moving around.
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Thanks, Don
I guess you don't find out until you take the gun apart.
Ray
I bet one of those $3000 hammer springs will get you 40FPE on 10 pumps
Edward
For $3000 bucks it better be closer to 400 FPE :)
Ray