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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2022, 07:25:43 PM »
A reproduction K98 sling fits the Diana 30 perfectly, ready for battle. 



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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2022, 09:09:32 PM »
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2022, 10:33:04 PM »
58's are a gorgeous rifle. Rare as rocking horse dung. Copy of the BSA but has a full stock? BSA had already been there and done that(1907). Mine is later.  BSA is not finished or polished as well. Real nice polish came after WW2 with the 1948 Airsporter MkI. BSA's greatest purpose was military contracts to build Enfields as far back as the 1860's. That's why the airgun blueing was military grade. The Military Pattern was to be a military trainer but was never adopted. The value of a Mil Pat is sky high. $1000's for one. I don't know the value of a 58. Somebody know?

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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2022, 11:04:55 PM »
58's are a gorgeous rifle. Rare as rocking horse dung. Copy of the BSA but has a full stock? BSA had already been there and done that(1907). Mine is later.  BSA is not finished or polished as well. Real nice polish came after WW2 with the 1948 Airsporter MkI. BSA's greatest purpose was military contracts to build Enfields as far back as the 1860's. That's why the airgun blueing was military grade. The Military Pattern was to be a military trainer but was never adopted. The value of a Mil Pat is sky high. $1000's for one. I don't know the value of a 58. Somebody know?


I think you are underestimating the value of a BSA Mil Pat last one I saw went for $3000!  A nice 2nd pattern 58 I think could go for $1000?

Tested out my three prewar German rifles together today.  Diana 58, Haenel 3, and the XX.  The Diana is just a beast so heavy and for all itís mass and sound 7.6 FPE.  Same as the Haenel 3. The XX at 8.6.

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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2022, 07:38:18 AM »
Double post
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2022, 09:30:48 AM »

I think you are underestimating the value of a BSA Mil Pat last one I saw went for $3000!  A nice 2nd pattern 58 I think could go for $1000?

Tested out my three prewar German rifles together today.  Diana 58, Haenel 3, and the XX.  The Diana is just a beast so heavy and for all itís mass and sound 7.6 FPE.  Same as the Haenel 3. The XX at 8.6.



What a beautiful trifecta! Makes sense the Diana is the heaviest with the machined underlever. I assume it probably has the softest shot cycle? Any significant difference noted in the triggers?
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2022, 10:42:50 AM »
$1000's. means thousands of dollars.
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2022, 11:59:30 AM »

I think you are underestimating the value of a BSA Mil Pat last one I saw went for $3000!  A nice 2nd pattern 58 I think could go for $1000?

Tested out my three prewar German rifles together today.  Diana 58, Haenel 3, and the XX.  The Diana is just a beast so heavy and for all itís mass and sound 7.6 FPE.  Same as the Haenel 3. The XX at 8.6.



What a beautiful trifecta! Makes sense the Diana is the heaviest with the machined underlever. I assume it probably has the softest shot cycle? Any significant difference noted in the triggers?

Actually the Diana is the closest thing you can shoot thatís like a musket!  You pull back the knob to cock the trigger, that assembly pushed the barrel further out. It has the longest cylinder so there is a lot of air pushing through the .177 hole?  Itís the loudest and to me hard to hold on target.  The other 2 have excellent triggers. Easy to zero.
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2022, 12:17:54 AM »
So the bolt accomplished that on the MkI? Cocked the trigger?
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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2022, 08:48:23 AM »
So the bolt accomplished that on the MkI? Cocked the trigger?

Yes the first model Diana 58 was designed as a military trainer and the bolt cocked the trigger.  Would love to add one of these to my collection but probably as rare or rarer than a BSA Military.  In the second model they changed it to a ďboltĒ you pull straight back. The second model was designed as a target rifle for German clubs and this was thought to add a safety factor so the rifle could be cocked but not ready to fire. The bolt releases like a firing pin.  Makes for a interesting collectable.  In the 3rd model it was left off and the rifle was cheapened at bit.  For those unfamiliar below are the three models of the 58.




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Re: Two awesome prewar pickups
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2022, 10:51:36 AM »
I must not let myself be overcome by lust! HA! They're beautiful rifles
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