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Thiel
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #20 on:
February 23, 2018, 09:01:46 AM »
i know it depends a bit on the barrel but how much fps are you guys recomending at least for the new .177 monster ?
50 yards benchrest
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #21 on:
February 24, 2018, 07:40:51 AM »
Quote from: moorepower on January 16, 2018, 04:20:26 PM
If I could pick one pellet for my PCP's it would be the old design. I really hope they keep them.
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skorec
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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March 13, 2018, 03:16:30 AM »
Finally I have received .177 Monster REDESIGNED and today morning was dead calm weather too.
However REDESIGNED pellets are not spiraling up to 15-20 MOA between 50-90 yard the accuracy is 2-3 times lower than .177 Heavy ( not 1-1,5 MOA but 3 MOA ) . It seems that LW choked barrel don`t like them at any speed (300m/s, 2800m/s, 270 m/s ). However it seems that they are best at 295-305 m/s. .
Do you have better experiences at long 50+ ranges ?
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
skorec
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #23 on:
March 13, 2018, 03:10:28 PM »
I have compared accuracy again. If I strike through four pellets from fourteen the grouping for Heavies is 19mm and grouping for Monster REDESIGNED is 68mm. 8 of 14 Heavies wet through one hole. Unfortunately the trigger is not too fine therefore I push 2 or 3 from 14.
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
Tricker
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Real Name: Tom Ricker
Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #24 on:
March 13, 2018, 08:06:45 PM »
Shot both in recent weeks, my LW barrel really likes the new design, improved accuracy at 50 yd bench rest. Got some from Trenier for a better price than mentioned above. Tom
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skorec
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #25 on:
March 14, 2018, 02:37:50 AM »
My barrel is LW choked 15x605mm TR 1:17,7 not polygonal barrel.
Which is your barrel ?
I am just locking for the Monster price at pyramydair . It is 16 USD . The price at CZ/SK is 10 USD.
Is it Posible that custom duty is 6 USD
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Last Edit: March 14, 2018, 04:44:31 AM by skorec
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #26 on:
March 14, 2018, 03:04:47 AM »
If it does not rain sunday, I will try them in my Daystate MK3 I also will see how the beast shoot 16.2 grain 177.
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skorec
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Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #27 on:
March 14, 2018, 05:32:34 AM »
YES,I will be very happy if you share long range accuracy for Monster.
What I have understood for now is:
0. OLD design .177 and .22 Monster and Beast shoots most PCPs sub MOA up to 30- 40 yd. but they start spiraling up to 20 MOA at 40-70 yd by using most common barrels.
I have perused that only from some barrels ( Polygonal, Hatsan, some Crosman, some China , … ) they are not spiraling.
1. Bought ( OLD style and REDESIGNED ) but mainly .22 REDESIGNED Monster and Beast prefer higher velocity between 975-995 FPS
2. Also .177 Beast REDESIGNED will be able soon.
3. I need to use .177 extra heavy pellets ( 13-16 gr. ) only for longer 50 + distances via better BC and wind resistance .
Under 25 yd I use mainly .177 JSB Exact Express 7.87 gr .
4. Only my .177 Long barrel Puncher has enough power to shot Monster.
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
skorec
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Real Name: Peter
Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #28 on:
July 21, 2018, 03:10:10 AM »
I have checked again if I am not crazy/granny . But unfortunately no.
Heavy are still 10MOA and Monster REDESIGNED are still 1MOA after stiffening LW barrel.
Before barrel stiffening Heavy was 1MOA and Monster was 2MOA.
I seriously not understand why barrel stiffening may decrease accuracy then times.
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
skorec
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Real Name: Peter
Re: Also .177 Monster REDESIGNED are available.
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Reply #29 on:
October 29, 2018, 04:02:33 AM »
At bought calibers .177 and .22 there are similar sizing differences between old style and REDESIGNED Monsters . At REDESIGNED the heads are a little bit smaller ( 0,1mm ? ) but skirts are much bigger ( 0,4 mm ? ).
Therefore the skirt dragging stabilization is higher at REDSIGNED ?
Can someone measure it more accurately . I have no good meter.
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.177 AA S510 Carbine + Delta Optical Titanium 6-24X42 AO for JSB Exact Heavy
.177 Combo (CO2 and PCP ) QB78D + Hawke Vantage 4-12x40 AO for JSB Exact Express
.22 LW/CH moded Noblesse Bullpupn+ Hawke 8-32x56 SF Half MilDot for JSB Jumbo Heavy
.177 LW/CH moded Puncher + KonusPro 6-24x44 for Monster REDESIGNED
177 Poly/NCH moded Puncher ONE-T + KonusPro 6-24x44 for 21gr Piledriver
.177 HW/NCH moded Puncher Pitbull +Hawke Sidewinder 30SF for Monster REDESIGNED+NSA18gr or Piledrivers about 950 FPS
.177 Gamo GX-40 + NikoStriling 6-24x56 for JSB Exact Heavy
spare barrels .177 HW/CH + Hatsan Hercules .177 585mmx15mm TR=18,7
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