In the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44
Quote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Some keep talking about scope size and weight. I could care less. I have a UTG 6-24X56 on my Marauder and my monopod supports that behemoth combo just fine! Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?
...Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?
Quote from: Jr_Explorer on September 03, 2015, 02:16:09 AMQuote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Some keep talking about scope size and weight. I could care less. I have a UTG 6-24X56 on my Marauder and my monopod supports that behemoth combo just fine! Some keep talking about scope size and weight. I could care less.Well......scope size matters if it's too long to allow "barrel cocking"..........weight becomes an issue for those that trek through the woods hunting squirrels and such...
Quote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Some keep talking about scope size and weight. I could care less. I have a UTG 6-24X56 on my Marauder and my monopod supports that behemoth combo just fine!
Quote from: Jr_Explorer on September 03, 2015, 02:16:09 AMQuote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?Couple reasons ...With the larger objective come a slightly longer distance between internal lens ... which Shallows the depth of field at any given distance as viewed within the typical AG ranges of sub 100 yards ( 60 & less especially ). To clarify ... NOT FOCUS being both are very clear scopes when ocular is adjusted correctly to ones eye and parallax set to range.Difference being "For Most" is when the depth of field shallows the definitive nature of the side Parallax becomes more In/out and less kinda / sorta in focus as you use it to range with. * Which is a NON design attribute we take advantage of in shooting FT
Quote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?
Quote from: Jr_Explorer on September 03, 2015, 02:16:09 AM...Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?Focusing is about the same as far as I can tell. The 12x and 16x are both the latest models (wire reticle, compact SWAT).You could use that 6-24x56 in Hunter. Tape the magnification at 12x and get all your dope set for that power. The only disadvantage is the 56mm means higher mounts. I usually like to keep the scope as low as possible. It makes the close shots easier.
Quote from: Motorhead on September 03, 2015, 02:42:52 AMQuote from: Jr_Explorer on September 03, 2015, 02:16:09 AMQuote from: Motorhead on September 02, 2015, 04:58:34 PMIn the Optisan Viper scopes ( which are OUTSTANDING HFT Optics ) the 4-16x50 is brighter and ranges better than the 4-12x44 Scott, with both set at 12X does the 4-16X still focus better than the 4-12X? Any ideas why that is? Is the 4-12X an older model?Couple reasons ...With the larger objective come a slightly longer distance between internal lens ... which Shallows the depth of field at any given distance as viewed within the typical AG ranges of sub 100 yards ( 60 & less especially ). To clarify ... NOT FOCUS being both are very clear scopes when ocular is adjusted correctly to ones eye and parallax set to range.Difference being "For Most" is when the depth of field shallows the definitive nature of the side Parallax becomes more In/out and less kinda / sorta in focus as you use it to range with. * Which is a NON design attribute we take advantage of in shooting FT So you're suggesting sticking with the largest main objective lens diameter may help reduce the depth of field and therefore the ability to focus sharply? That's a good tip.
...While I did offer some season why they focus a tad differently ... there is ALSO the fact that many variable Mag scopes get a tad blurry when used at the Max of there range. (As in a 4-12 used at 12 )When using a 4-16 at 12 your backed down from max and scope generally will have a clearer edge to edge view as well.