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Target Shooting Matches, Discussion & Events => Field Target Gates => Hunter Class Field Target => Topic started by: Sfttailrdr46 on September 18, 2013, 10:57:29 PM
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Are there any limits to the magnification on the scope as in 6x16x42 or 8x24x56 0r 4x12x42
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Not to sure what your asking but here is the Sidewinder page link
http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-side-focus-riflescopes.html (http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-side-focus-riflescopes.html)
And the tacticals
http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-tactical-side-focus-riflescopes.html (http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-tactical-side-focus-riflescopes.html)
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;D I read somewhere that there are restrictions at the hunter class competitions as to the maximum magnification scope that can be used in the competitions and don't want to mount/buy an expensive scope that will be disallowed in the match
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http://www.6mmbr.com/fieldtargetposition.html (http://www.6mmbr.com/fieldtargetposition.html)
Field Target vs. Hunter Field Target
Hunter Field Target (HFT) competition is very similar to FT, but HFT matches are typically shot with smaller targets, and in the UK the max target distance is 45 yards (as opposed to 50m for FT). In the USA, under AAFTA rules, HFT rifles are limited to maximum 12-power magnification. A typical HFT course is made up of 30 lanes, with each lane comprised of a peg and a metal "knock down" target placed to simulate a hunting scenario. The peg marks the shooting spot and the shooter must touch the peg with part of his or her body or gun for the shot to count.
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I also think it is 12X but from what I understand you can have any scope you want on your rifle and only turn it up to 12X. The other thing that is not allowed in FT Hunter Class is that you cannot touch the turrets and have to depend on the Mil Dots
Norm
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I also think it is 12X but from what I understand you can have any scope you want on your rifle and only turn it up to 12X. The other thing that is not allowed in FT Hunter Class is that you cannot touch the turrets and have to depend on the Mil Dots
Norm
Or 1 number lower if 12 isnt marked I believe. Ex if your scope is number 11 * 13, were the * would be 12 I think you would have to be set at 11
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Also note that for the serious HFT matches variable scopes that are being set to 12x must have a factory 12X mark on them or you must turn it to the first factory mark that is below 12x. Say a scope has 10x, 14x, 18x marks, you cannot turn the scope to halfway between 10 and 14X,. You must turn it to 10x, since it is the first factory mark that is equal to or less than 12X.
Of course local matches ignore this and it is no big deal ;)
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;D ;D Thanks guys that helps to clarify somewhat
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If you're using a PCP, or choose to do so, you can go to other class, and use what ya brung. AAFTA is your guide.
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If you're using a PCP, or choose to do so, you can go to other class, and use what ya brung. AAFTA is your guide.
The 12x scope limit only applies to the Hunter Division. It has nothing to do with the powerplant classifications.
The AAFTA Divisions are Open, WFTF, and Hunter.
Under each Division are usually two powerplant classes, PCP and Piston.
If you want to shoot Hunter Division, but have a high power scope, you must turn it down to 12x or some lower setting for the entire match.
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;D Set up the Sidewinder and used it Saturday after noon at higher magnification the parallax ranging worked great spent about 2 hours plinking steel silhouette and various other targets at 30 yards and out to 50 or 60 hit about 90% of targets on first shot
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90% WOW!
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90% WOW!
I havent done any groups at distance was just playing around getting a feel for the scope and rifle. In truth I think that some of the further shots were dumb luck since I haven't really started doing any real testing yet. One of the other shooters had a chrony and we fired 1 over the sensors at 798fps
with AA 10.3 Diablos. Just started useing the 8.3 H&N's last night and at 10 yards getting some ragged 1 holers with 5 shot groups but I think the rifle can do much better than me :-[
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I'm shopping for a side focus scope for HFT. I understand the 12X rule during competition but have the impression that the very high mag. ( eg. 8x32 even 10x40 would help in marking the range wheel during setup due to the shallow depth of field for focusing. I just read a positive comment on the hawke night eye 3x12 digital. Sounds good but how does it range at between 10 and 55 yards?
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90% WOW!
The targets weren't knock downs just thought I should clarify I don't know what would happen if I were competing in HFT with knock down targets. The silhouettes were just flat steel and although I may have hit 9 out of 10 on first try I will try to be a little more "accurate" in my words when I post my shooting results ;D
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I just bought one of the these for HC http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx) . I haven't received it yet but it looks like a fantastic reticle for hold over and under and the fixed 12X will only need one dope sheet. When it arrives I'll compare it to my Sidewinder 4.5-14 X 42 (which I was planning on using) for a quality baseline and report back of course.
Tom
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I just bought one of the these for HC http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx) . I haven't received it yet but it looks like a fantastic reticle for hold over and under and the fixed 12X will only need one dope sheet. When it arrives I'll compare it to my Sidewinder 4.5-14 X 42 (which I was planning on using) for a quality baseline and report back of course.
Tom
Tom,
Any updates on the scope yet?
Thanks
WWR
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I just bought one of the these for HC http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-12x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P53714.aspx) . I haven't received it yet but it looks like a fantastic reticle for hold over and under and the fixed 12X will only need one dope sheet. When it arrives I'll compare it to my Sidewinder 4.5-14 X 42 (which I was planning on using) for a quality baseline and report back of course.
Tom
Tom,
Any updates on the scope yet?
Thanks
WWR
Tom,
I'm interested in hearing how you like it as well. I bought one almost a year ago. It looked like it would be a fantastic scope with all the features needed for HFT. I sent it back after viewing targets through it. I never actually shot with it. The reticle was way too fine for my tastes. It would disappear on darker areas of the target making it hard to count mils. I don't normally use the lit reticle on my UTG scopes so I liked the fact that this scope did not come with one. Unfortunately, it is the one scope that desperately needs one so that you can see the thin reticle against darker targets.
My preferred HFT scope is the Accushot/Leapers/UTG 3-12x44 SWAT scope (thick wire reticle version). It is a good value. If you have the money, the 3-12x50 Sidewinder is the only scope that may be better for US HFT. Just my opinion and experiences.
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I'm shopping for a side focus scope for HFT. I understand the 12X rule during competition but have the impression that the very high mag. ( eg. 8x32 even 10x40 would help in marking the range wheel during setup due to the shallow depth of field for focusing. I just read a positive comment on the hawke night eye 3x12 digital. Sounds good but how does it range at between 10 and 55 yards?
Hawke Sport Optics 3-12X44 SF 1/2 Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4" MOA Turrets
http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/scopes-mounts-binoculars-spotting-scopes-access/hawke-sport-optics-3-12x44-sf-1/2-mil-dot-reticle-1/4-moa-turrets/ (http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/scopes-mounts-binoculars-spotting-scopes-access/hawke-sport-optics-3-12x44-sf-1/2-mil-dot-reticle-1/4-moa-turrets/)
This is what I use on my sport/hunter class
http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-sf-3-12x50-sr-pro.html (http://www.hawkeoptics.com/hawke-sidewinder-30-sf-3-12x50-sr-pro.html)