Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.



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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #540 on: February 19, 2016, 03:39:53 PM »
When you are done shooting, leave the gun pressurized. This will hasten the ring's settling in. When it is broken in, you will see it has taken a different shape.

LUK how it goes.


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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #541 on: February 20, 2016, 11:32:55 AM »
I don't know how long it holds for I haven't timed it. But if I go back in under 10 minute the pressure has expelled
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #542 on: February 20, 2016, 04:30:06 PM »
Uh ohhh. Sounds like a damaged valve seat.

If you are bothered by the leak down, you can try polishing the seat with an ultrafine (gray) Scotchbrite pad.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #543 on: March 01, 2016, 04:29:14 PM »
It should be noted that Stalwart Arms is not affiliated, nor has it been, in any way, with VRD LLC, VRD Arms, or Scott Villmow.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #544 on: March 04, 2016, 11:45:50 AM »
Got the P25 yesterday and will soon post some pictures.

For anyone who wants to claim SSPs are recoilless, I have a gun you need to shoot.

My groups are more like patterns at this point, but rest assured that is all my fault. When I have my act together, best I can manage is a couple shots like that at a time, I get one ragged hole. I am sure it would do that all day if I could.

The S2 trigger is awesome. Some takeup, then a little wall and bang. Stalwart needs to figure out how to transplant these triggers into XS60s.
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #545 on: March 06, 2016, 11:31:06 AM »
"Stalwart needs to figure out how to transplant these triggers into XS60s."

If that seemed only remotely possible... it would be my new life's mission.


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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #547 on: December 28, 2017, 12:02:21 PM »
Rod, where did you go?

Deep into my music....
then CTS reared its ugly head and off to PT twice a week, exercising every day until I die, but it WORKS! I actually managed to avoid surgery.
THEN I caught the "Telly" (Fender Telecaster, country style) bug, and I'm off trying to reach Albert Lee (Q.V, YouTube) as a skill level goal.
After all, I already have some 30-40 years of pro playing, on folk guitar and rock bass (as well as classical instruments.)
An online music store called "zZounds!" made the mistake of offering me credit, (musicians - check 'em out! No credit check..) and now I'm pretty well tooled up (amps, etc) after some guitar maintenance and upgrade projects. (There's a local band forming, around a distant relative of Buck Owens; who has just opened an 'Opry" type music theater here.)

I haven't forgotten the AG goals - just put them off a bit. The parts are somewhat buried  by house "cleaning" projects, and I'm sure my guns all need orings...but a work space wil be freed this winter, then back into the Windowsill Cannon we(?) go. (Unless I win that .300 Lapua sweepstakes, LOL)
I have another spine operation in the future too, but that's been staved off by some very effective PT....even though the MRI's look scary.

Let's talk after New Year's!
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #548 on: March 02, 2018, 05:29:57 PM »
Just revisiting this thread with a problem. I have the .22 Microgroove barrel, standard length, that you sent me and it's been sitting around. So I ordered a stock P17 from PA, thinking, hey, this will make a nice pair. My Stealth in 177 and the stock pistol in 22. So I got the pistol today, went to swap out the barrels, and noticed right off that the 22 barrel will not allow the pistol to fire, nor does the gun open up smoothly. It has to be nearly pried open. I put the 177 barrel back in, pistol functions as it should. I compared the two barrels and they look different. The muzzle end is longer from the shoulder that rests against the front of the gun to the crown. But it seems to fit the hole in the front and is flush against the front. I did notice the groove cut in the 22 barrel that the mounting plate rests in is a different length than the stock barrel's. I think the 22 barrel is a hair longer than the stock one, and it is pushed against the rear seal too much. This is probably why it cannot be opened for cocking and loading smoothly and is why the gun won't fire properly. I am thinking that maybe a little grinding and polishing with my Dremel tool might fix the issue. Worth a try I guess. 

My question is, will the rear seal fit the 22 barrel and provide the seal it needs, or does this need further modding?
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Re: Beeman P17... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #549 on: April 28, 2018, 07:16:09 AM »
I've been meaning to ask you... if you had another 17, what would you do to it?

Mine evolved over time according to my tastes, so it would probably be pretty much the same. 
It's a great rig... I can see why.

Guys, what do you think? It's together!
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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #550 on: April 30, 2018, 03:49:54 AM »
It lives!!

As you can all imagine, the 17s are still a staple here.

SA just became a Xisico dealer, and will be offering the 120Ds (as Special Editions) soon. I'll post it all here.

In the meantime, I'd like to thank all who see the potential here, and choose to exploit it. It's a pretty big club, and I'm proud to be part of it.

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Re: Beeman P17 and XSP 120D... Next level builds/mods.
« Reply #551 on: April 30, 2018, 04:55:48 AM »
Just revisiting this thread with a problem. I have the .22 Microgroove barrel, standard length, that you sent me and it's been sitting around. So I ordered a stock P17 from PA, thinking, hey, this will make a nice pair. My Stealth in 177 and the stock pistol in 22. So I got the pistol today, went to swap out the barrels, and noticed right off that the 22 barrel will not allow the pistol to fire, nor does the gun open up smoothly. It has to be nearly pried open. I put the 177 barrel back in, pistol functions as it should. I compared the two barrels and they look different. The muzzle end is longer from the shoulder that rests against the front of the gun to the crown. But it seems to fit the hole in the front and is flush against the front. I did notice the groove cut in the 22 barrel that the mounting plate rests in is a different length than the stock barrel's. I think the 22 barrel is a hair longer than the stock one, and it is pushed against the rear seal too much. This is probably why it cannot be opened for cocking and loading smoothly and is why the gun won't fire properly. I am thinking that maybe a little grinding and polishing with my Dremel tool might fix the issue. Worth a try I guess. 

My question is, will the rear seal fit the 22 barrel and provide the seal it needs, or does this need further modding?

Just saw this, was not notified of this post.

That barrel has a longer anchor point because it makes no difference to the mounting, and it's easier to set them up with the ergonomic loading by cutting it fully to the end.

It's clear the new pistol has tighter tolerances in that area, between the nose and the breech, and those few thousandths will cause a binding on the carefully cut breech clearance.

You are correct. Relieving that clearance, by a couple thousandths, will set the breech up to give you a more consistent seal. Go slow, but don't worry... if you go too far, you can shim that just like the factory does.

BTW... take the excess off the plastic block the front of the barrel fits into. Don't touch the barrel! Power tools won't be needed. a slight relief of the nose can be had with sandpaper.
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