It looks like to me if you use the Baker trigger without the two screws a 1/4" diameter piece of spring would replace the smaller return spring that does not contact the brass trigger. It works on the Disco housing and has just enough clearance to do the job and stay in place. This one is in the Disco housing which in the pictures looks like the same in that area. Can't tell from the pictures if there is something holding the spring at the back of the metal housing or is it just flat like the Disco? Don't need the nub on the other side with a larger spring just find the right spring strength to suit you. I'm trying to figure something out before I get a 362 or some metal housings when or if they become available.
I'm going to keep the Baker Trigger. I have one in my Maximus and something will come along. i will put it in the parts bin for now.
Quote from: Van on January 15, 2022, 11:08:18 AM It looks like to me if you use the Baker trigger without the two screws a 1/4" diameter piece of spring would replace the smaller return spring that does not contact the brass trigger. It works on the Disco housing and has just enough clearance to do the job and stay in place. This one is in the Disco housing which in the pictures looks like the same in that area. Can't tell from the pictures if there is something holding the spring at the back of the metal housing or is it just flat like the Disco? Don't need the nub on the other side with a larger spring just find the right spring strength to suit you. I'm trying to figure something out before I get a 362 or some metal housings when or if they become available. Now why didn't I think of that. Yes, this does work. I luckily had a nice little variety box of springs, and I found that a 1/4" diameter spring didn't work well, since it fit quite snugly in the little channel and tended to bind. However a slightly larger one at 9/32" sat a bit higher rather than slotting down in the channel and didn't have that issue. I used a longer one at 3/4" compared to the 1/2" long stock and Baker trigger springs, since the one I had is quite light and would have been too light at 1/2", and it also seemed like the shorter one might bind a bit too. nThis is how I have the rifle now and it is definitely an improvement. Even with the longer spring in there, the trigger is much lighter than before, but one interesting thing about this trigger group is there is a pseudo second stage, since you first overcome the little trigger spring, then the sear spring. So even with the light trigger spring it doesn't feel unsafe. I also have to say just how much nicer the rifle feels with the smooth and wide brass trigger vs. the plastic one it came with. Crosman should someday come out with a premium version of this rifle and this is the main thing they should change, on top of the steel breech.I do feel like my rifle has now changed from being a solid, proven build to being slightly experimental and DIY, but I suppose I am ok with that. The new trigger feels so much nicer on the finger that it's going to stay on there, and if the current setup fails somehow I'll figure something else out. I shot a < 1/2" group with the new setup, seated at 10y, and I don't think I could do a nicer group with any rifle. Hope to get outside with the gun soon and give it a harder trial.
Quote from: erdnuss on January 16, 2022, 05:07:30 AMQuote from: Van on January 15, 2022, 11:08:18 AM It looks like to me if you use the Baker trigger without the two screws a 1/4" diameter piece of spring would replace the smaller return spring that does not contact the brass trigger. It works on the Disco housing and has just enough clearance to do the job and stay in place. This one is in the Disco housing which in the pictures looks like the same in that area. Can't tell from the pictures if there is something holding the spring at the back of the metal housing or is it just flat like the Disco? Don't need the nub on the other side with a larger spring just find the right spring strength to suit you. I'm trying to figure something out before I get a 362 or some metal housings when or if they become available. Now why didn't I think of that. Yes, this does work. I luckily had a nice little variety box of springs, and I found that a 1/4" diameter spring didn't work well, since it fit quite snugly in the little channel and tended to bind. However a slightly larger one at 9/32" sat a bit higher rather than slotting down in the channel and didn't have that issue. I used a longer one at 3/4" compared to the 1/2" long stock and Baker trigger springs, since the one I had is quite light and would have been too light at 1/2", and it also seemed like the shorter one might bind a bit too. nThis is how I have the rifle now and it is definitely an improvement. Even with the longer spring in there, the trigger is much lighter than before, but one interesting thing about this trigger group is there is a pseudo second stage, since you first overcome the little trigger spring, then the sear spring. So even with the light trigger spring it doesn't feel unsafe. I also have to say just how much nicer the rifle feels with the smooth and wide brass trigger vs. the plastic one it came with. Crosman should someday come out with a premium version of this rifle and this is the main thing they should change, on top of the steel breech.I do feel like my rifle has now changed from being a solid, proven build to being slightly experimental and DIY, but I suppose I am ok with that. The new trigger feels so much nicer on the finger that it's going to stay on there, and if the current setup fails somehow I'll figure something else out. I shot a < 1/2" group with the new setup, seated at 10y, and I don't think I could do a nicer group with any rifle. Hope to get outside with the gun soon and give it a harder trial. Glad to see that the larger spring does work in the metal breech channel. I would widen and smooth the little channel with a Dremel tool or needle file for smoother operation when I get mine. Thanks for the close up of the metal breech and spring. You are right about the feel of the brass trigger over the plastic, so much better and improves the looks 100%. Great group there too!
Really no need. the ribs capture and guide the right size spring.
Sweet, I found another forward screw breech on one of the other 'lego' projects.Oh wait... that goes in the '362 steel breech' thread.... my bad.
Lots more after market and home brewed options for this platform.Tinker potential is endless.
Let me just hint to my 'lego' adventures.... I counted 10 steel breaches on various guns...
BTW.... Van...Thanks for the heads up on the oversized spring.... works great.