Welcome to GTA Jose!General comments:I have some low end coil spring and gas spring Norica air rifles. They are sturdy, accurate (good enough for me), basic budget springers. Only negative is the HEAVY direct sear trigger in the base models (Dragon, Atlantic, Spider). It doesn't affect my accuracy once I get reacquainted with the 6+ lb triggers. Doubt Norica would use one of these for their new zero recoil system.Video shows the action moving into the stock/receiver assembly during the shot. This does isolate the shooter from spring piston recoils. Since the scope is mounted to stock/receiver assembly it won't feel any recoils either. Having the trigger jump might feel weird at first. What I'd like to test is the OPEN SIGHTS. They appear to jump at the shooter between 1cm-2cm. Seems like this would be a very disturbing occurrence when using the open sights. Probably less than I think and one may get used to it, like the jumping trigger, pretty quickly.Isolating the action this way seems workable as long as the movement is precise and repeatable (and remains so over time) so the "isolated" scope stays in perfect alignment with the barrel. Any slop here will reduce accuracy.The Umarex "Stop Shox" system tried to isolate the action recoils from the shooter. The lower mass action, with no stock mass or shooter dampening resistance, experiences larger accelerations (g-forces). The scope mounted directly to that action sees those larger accelerations using this system so I'm not interested. (acceleration=force/mass, reduce the mass and acceleration becomes larger)IMO the attraction of spring piston air rifles is the SIMPLICITY of design and I FEEL like I'm shooting a small PB rifle due to the primary spring/piston acceleration/recoil. I LIKE springer recoil even if it limits my ultimate accuracy with that rifle. With proper design, good materials and manufacturing, and a little end user fine tuning these elegantly simple machines are a treat to shoot. If "new designs" add too many layers of complexity, much of which does little or nothing to improve performance, I'll PASS thank you. I'm a skeptic when it comes to slick new product videos and marketing hype. Assuming this new design really improves accuracy, and I read a few dozen glowing reviews confirming that, the price will be a big factor. If the new rifles are going to be priced above my (basic) PCPs, I won't be buying one.Off topic note: The Norica bullpup PCP looks NICE... except for cheek placement on the bare angular metal receiver? That looks like it could be really uncomfortable, especially in COLD weather!
I cant insert videos or links to them: text appears: Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links.Any help?
Quote from: Kijoseki on January 15, 2022, 04:46:22 PMI cant insert videos or links to them: text appears: Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links.Any help?New members are not allowed to post links until you reach 20+ posts. Don't worry, it's nothing against you specifically. Long list of forum rules here:https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=919.msg6662#msg6662 If you want to send me the links via PM (I think that works below 20 posts) I can post them for you.
...These are two videos I made for my partner shooting a prototype in two cases: with the ZRS system on and with the ZRS system off (you simply push the action back to the end of the cylinder. See the results. This video was made for internal use in April 2021.?¿?¿?¿?¿Hope you like them. Best regards, Jose.I cant insert videos or links to them: text appears: Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links.Any help?
Quote from: mikeyb on January 15, 2022, 05:02:13 PMQuote from: Kijoseki on January 15, 2022, 04:46:22 PMI cant insert videos or links to them: text appears: Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links.Any help?New members are not allowed to post links until you reach 20+ posts. Don't worry, it's nothing against you specifically. Long list of forum rules here:https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=919.msg6662#msg6662 If you want to send me the links via PM (I think that works below 20 posts) I can post them for you.Private message sent! Thank you Mikeb!
Hopefully a distributor can be found in the US. I have a Norica Deadeye GRS .22 I bought several years ago, but to get that rifle, I had to order it from Spain since the only distributor here, while they carried several versions of the Norica rifles, never imported the Deadeye.
I have a .177 Norica Black Eagle and a .22 Massimo. They and the Marvic and Strom are all mechanically the same and have a much better trigger than the cheaper Noricas in plastic stocks. Like a Tech Force 89 trigger, a clone of the Noricas.It's interesting that the only under lever they make has the cheaper direct sear trigger.
Quote from: Kijoseki on January 15, 2022, 07:55:24 PMQuote from: mikeyb on January 15, 2022, 05:02:13 PMQuote from: Kijoseki on January 15, 2022, 04:46:22 PMI cant insert videos or links to them: text appears: Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links.Any help?New members are not allowed to post links until you reach 20+ posts. Don't worry, it's nothing against you specifically. Long list of forum rules here:https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=919.msg6662#msg6662 If you want to send me the links via PM (I think that works below 20 posts) I can post them for you.Private message sent! Thank you Mikeb!Greeting newcomers is a quick way to build up post.
Thank you Jose for bringing this to the market. Any plans to offer a 12 Ft Lb version? or can someone swap out the original gas ram with one of Norica's lower powered gas ram? Is it a drop-in swap or does it need machining modification? I saw an older video with a TX200 action inside your chassis. Any plans to offer just the chassis for sale for other more popular air rifles? Thank you again and Happy New Year.
What is meant by Massimo 'total guided spring'.The 515 trigger reminds me of the triggers in my Crosman 3100's.