I got my 362 from Crosman today on the brown truck. I am impressed. I've been shooting mostly vintage guns the last few years but had to have one of these. Crosman has gone back to their roots with this rifle, I think it's the best pumper they have produced since the 1400 went away in 1978. As I was zeroing in at 20 yards, I soon realized there was not sufficient windage adjustment for the rear sight. Gun was shooting to the right. So, I grabbed a Mac1 mount I had on hand and clapped on a scope. Shot a little over 100 rounds, played around with different pellets, RWS 11.9 gr Hobby goes 680 fps with 8 pumps, H&N 9.5 gr does 740.JSB 18 gr makes just shy of 600. Shot 5 consecutive dime-size groups with 4 pumps and 14.3 gr JSB, just over 500 fps. Right out of the box, just gave it a couple drops of oil and started shooting. Great little rifle!Does anyone know how to safely remove the front sight?
I'm really close to ordering a Crosman steel breech and Williams diopter sight. For some reason I didn't realize the factory sight didn't have windage adjustments until I had the rifle in my hand. It seems that PA has the best deal on either of them. Does PA offer a fiber front sight for these Crosman barrels?
Quote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 08:49:53 PMI'm really close to ordering a Crosman steel breech and Williams diopter sight. For some reason I didn't realize the factory sight didn't have windage adjustments until I had the rifle in my hand. It seems that PA has the best deal on either of them. Does PA offer a fiber front sight for these Crosman barrels? You can loosen the rear sight/breech hold down screw and slide the rear sight left/right. Not much adjustment though. Also be sure your front sight is centered vertically. It can move a bit on the barrel and if not centered might not have enough rear sight movement to get it sighted in.
The rear sight has about 2" of left to right adjustment at 10m, or at least mine did.
Quote from: TKO22 on January 17, 2022, 09:01:38 PMQuote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 08:49:53 PMI'm really close to ordering a Crosman steel breech and Williams diopter sight. For some reason I didn't realize the factory sight didn't have windage adjustments until I had the rifle in my hand. It seems that PA has the best deal on either of them. Does PA offer a fiber front sight for these Crosman barrels? You can loosen the rear sight/breech hold down screw and slide the rear sight left/right. Not much adjustment though. Also be sure your front sight is centered vertically. It can move a bit on the barrel and if not centered might not have enough rear sight movement to get it sighted in.Quote from: Firewalker on January 17, 2022, 09:47:25 PMThe rear sight has about 2" of left to right adjustment at 10m, or at least mine did. It will suffice for now, I assume, but I am definitely wanting something more precise. I was 40/40 with iron sights on range day when I was in the Army, but I had an elevation adjustable front sight and a windage adjustable rear. Are there any setups like this for these Crosman guns? Maybe a "muzzle brake" that has dovetail or pic rails for aftermarket adjustable front sights?
Quote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 03:22:50 PMQuote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 11:28:59 AMQuote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 11:16:00 AMDJ, I'm not sure but I would have to think that the engineers that did the R&D on these picked a 22" barrel for more then just looks. I would think they matched the barrel length with efficiency at 8 pumps.But then again... I'm not an engineer... I'm sure cost, overall length, and performance were all reasons for the 22" barrel length choice. I'm also planning on hot rod valve and piston, so I'll see the benefits of a longer barrel either way. The fact that other users are reporting a huge volume reduction when going with even a basic LDC tells me there is going to be velocity benefit to a longer barrel. I'm sure there is a point of diminishing returns, but I plan on finding it. The 26" barrel will remain factory for a while, it will take me time to sort out machine work anyway, I have to outsource all of that.This is what I read and I do apologize if my reply felt snarky to you, I assure you, that was not my intent.Thank you for apologizing.
Quote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 11:28:59 AMQuote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 11:16:00 AMDJ, I'm not sure but I would have to think that the engineers that did the R&D on these picked a 22" barrel for more then just looks. I would think they matched the barrel length with efficiency at 8 pumps.But then again... I'm not an engineer... I'm sure cost, overall length, and performance were all reasons for the 22" barrel length choice. I'm also planning on hot rod valve and piston, so I'll see the benefits of a longer barrel either way. The fact that other users are reporting a huge volume reduction when going with even a basic LDC tells me there is going to be velocity benefit to a longer barrel. I'm sure there is a point of diminishing returns, but I plan on finding it. The 26" barrel will remain factory for a while, it will take me time to sort out machine work anyway, I have to outsource all of that.This is what I read and I do apologize if my reply felt snarky to you, I assure you, that was not my intent.
Quote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 11:16:00 AMDJ, I'm not sure but I would have to think that the engineers that did the R&D on these picked a 22" barrel for more then just looks. I would think they matched the barrel length with efficiency at 8 pumps.But then again... I'm not an engineer... I'm sure cost, overall length, and performance were all reasons for the 22" barrel length choice. I'm also planning on hot rod valve and piston, so I'll see the benefits of a longer barrel either way. The fact that other users are reporting a huge volume reduction when going with even a basic LDC tells me there is going to be velocity benefit to a longer barrel. I'm sure there is a point of diminishing returns, but I plan on finding it. The 26" barrel will remain factory for a while, it will take me time to sort out machine work anyway, I have to outsource all of that.
DJ, I'm not sure but I would have to think that the engineers that did the R&D on these picked a 22" barrel for more then just looks. I would think they matched the barrel length with efficiency at 8 pumps.But then again... I'm not an engineer...
Quote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 05:28:18 PMQuote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 03:22:50 PMQuote from: Spacebus on January 17, 2022, 11:28:59 AMQuote from: avator on January 17, 2022, 11:16:00 AMDJ, I'm not sure but I would have to think that the engineers that did the R&D on these picked a 22" barrel for more then just looks. I would think they matched the barrel length with efficiency at 8 pumps.But then again... I'm not an engineer... I'm sure cost, overall length, and performance were all reasons for the 22" barrel length choice. I'm also planning on hot rod valve and piston, so I'll see the benefits of a longer barrel either way. The fact that other users are reporting a huge volume reduction when going with even a basic LDC tells me there is going to be velocity benefit to a longer barrel. I'm sure there is a point of diminishing returns, but I plan on finding it. The 26" barrel will remain factory for a while, it will take me time to sort out machine work anyway, I have to outsource all of that.This is what I read and I do apologize if my reply felt snarky to you, I assure you, that was not my intent.Thank you for apologizing.Let's see... Bill misreads your post. You come back all snarky and rude and call Bill snarky and rude. Bill bends over backwards, apologizing in two separate posts when all he did was innocently misread your post, and all you do is say "thank you for apologizing"?
or gently tap the front site with a block of wood. Should come off easy.
I received my 362 a few days ago. I ordered it directly from Crosman and it shipped with a free tin of 13.7 grain crosman domed pellets. The overall feel and look of the gun are definitely at a much higher level than a Daisy 880, Daisy 901, or Crosman 2100. This is the nicest pumper I've owned. I really like the sight picture. Despite the frustrating nature of the sight adjustment, once you get it zeroed it works well. I have not chronographed the gun yet, due to crummy weather, but I have shot it a litte. I also cleaned the bore before use. It was filthy straight from Crosman but cleaned up easily. The trigger is a 2-stage as far as feel. I have not disassembled the trigger yet, but it looks much like the one on my Discovery, so a trigger job will likely be straightforward. Out of the box the first stage is 1 lb of take-up and fairly long. The second stage has some creep, but not a lot, and breaks with an additional 3 pounds of pressure. Though it's a 4 pound trigger, it doesn't feel that heavy due to the 2-stage pull. I don't think the trigger will hold the gun back. I tried 7 different types of pellets: Crosman Premiers, Crosman Premier HP, JSB 18.3, Crosman 13.7 grain domed, H&N Excite wadcutters, H&N Field Target Trophy, and Crosman Pointed. I fired all shots at 25 yards, from a seated and rested position using an adjustable front rest, and a sock full of gravel as a rear bag on top of a Caldwell Stable Table Lite. I used the factory sights and fired 5-shot groups. All testing was done at 8 pumps. The results were not really what I was hoping for. The gun was not pellet picky, which is normally a good thing, but it never really found a pellet it liked either. All the pellets tested landed in groups varying from 1.25" to 1.75". I'm a pretty decent shot with peep sights and my rest is solid. It was a bit windy, but not enough to dramatically skew the results. I think this is representative of what the rifle is capable of with the pellets I have on hand (most of which are Crosman pellets). So, honestly I am a bit diasappointed in these results. This is similar accuracy to my 1322. Given the obvious design similarities I expected the longer sight radius and increased velocity to deliver superior accuracy at 25 yards. I inspected the crown and it looks great, and the bore looked slick and clean after I ran a few patches through it. Maybe I am expecting too much from a sub-$100 air rifle. What do you guys think?