I am surprised that nobody has mentioned a Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom .
I'm a bit biased against springers due to the recoil, which is hard on optics. Nitro Piston rifles don't suffer from spring fatigue or recoil issues.
Quote from: Spacebus on September 14, 2021, 11:02:37 AMI'm a bit biased against springers due to the recoil, which is hard on optics. Nitro Piston rifles don't suffer from spring fatigue or recoil issues. Recoil is different between a gas ram and a springer since that gas ram doesn't rebound back and forth like a spring does, but they still recoil. They also suffer at some point from leakage of the air from that gas ram since those things don't last forever. When that gas ram fails? All you have is a metal and wood/synthetic club. Fatigued or even broken spring? Although with less power, a springer with a fatigued or even broken spring in it will still shoot. Not something I recommend, but they still will.
Quote from: SteveP-52 on September 14, 2021, 11:38:20 AMQuote from: Spacebus on September 14, 2021, 11:02:37 AMI'm a bit biased against springers due to the recoil, which is hard on optics. Nitro Piston rifles don't suffer from spring fatigue or recoil issues. Recoil is different between a gas ram and a springer since that gas ram doesn't rebound back and forth like a spring does, but they still recoil. They also suffer at some point from leakage of the air from that gas ram since those things don't last forever. When that gas ram fails? All you have is a metal and wood/synthetic club. Fatigued or even broken spring? Although with less power, a springer with a fatigued or even broken spring in it will still shoot. Not something I recommend, but they still will.NP can be repaired, where did you see they couldn't? It's just a nitrogen charged shock, like you would see on a modern car, and those can be rebuilt. Sure, might be a few more specialty tools, but if I had to pick one, it would be NP every time. Also, nitrogen is easy to concentrate from ambient air if you had to recharge it. I accidentally let the nitrogen out of a rear motorcycle shock, but a shop had no problem remedying that.
Quote from: Spacebus on September 14, 2021, 11:02:37 AMI'm a bit biased against springers due to the recoil, which is hard on optics. Nitro Piston rifles don't suffer from spring fatigue or recoil issues. Recoil is different between a gas ram and a springer since that gas ram doesn't rebound back and forth like a spring does, but they still recoil.
I just feel like a mid power spring gun makes the better grab it shoot it throw it in a corner gun.
. I don't see any scenario where I would only have one or the other in my home.