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What to do about hold over?
Captain Paul:
What do you guys do about the massive holdover required when shooting smaller calibers, like .22 or .177? If I shim the scope or use a base that allows me to angle it, then the rifle becomes worthless for anything closer than 100 yds (I also shoot 50 yds). If I sight the scope at 50 yds then I have to zoom out to 9x or less to be able to use my Mil Dots for sighting. Worse yet, the crosshairs on my SFP scope completely cover the bull's eye. Or do you guys all have rifles set up for 100 yds and don't use it for anything else?
A moron:
--- Quote from: Captain Paul on July 03, 2021, 06:15:48 PM ---What do you guys do about the massive holdover required when shooting smaller calibers, like .22 or .177? If I shim the scope or use a base that allows me to angle it, then the rifle becomes worthless for anything closer than 100 yds (I also shoot 50 yds). If I sight the scope at 50 yds then I have to zoom out to 9x or less to be able to use my Mil Dots for sighting. Worse yet, the crosshairs on my SFP scope completely cover the bull's eye. Or do you guys all have rifles set up for 100 yds and don't use it for anything else?
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Mil-dot use the dots and turrets
A lot of rocket science, but you get to this part
Making Adjustments with a Mil Dot Scope
https://www.targettamers.com/guides/mil-dot-explained/
Just got to bring it down to pellet gun level.
Duplex hold my mouth just right
Captain Paul:
--- Quote from: A moron on July 03, 2021, 06:42:27 PM ---Mil-dot use the dots and turrets
A lot of rocket science, but you get to this part
Making Adjustments with a Mil Dot Scope
https://www.targettamers.com/guides/mil-dot-explained/
Just got to bring it down to pellet gun level.
Duplex hold my mouth just right
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I guess I didn't explain myself very well. Unless I shim the scope substantially the bullet drop is beyond the adjustment limits of my scope. I know how mil dots are supposed to be used, and on both my scopes (one is 12x the other 18x) the dots are calibrated for use at the highest magnification. Unfortunately the aim point is out of view when I zoom in that much. So instead I've zoomed out to about 9x (the mil dots no longer being at the proper scale), do my best guestimate at where the holdover should be, and fire 3 shots. Then I assess the group and move my aim point as required.
A bunch of years ago I set up my PB to shoot 1,000 yds. Holdover was something like 12-15 feet. I had to get a special 20 MOA rail and still had to max out the elevation on the scope. I could do something like that with my air rifle but before I do I was wondering whether you veterans of the sport had a better idea. (Of course I -could- just get a .25 or .30, that would solve the massive holdover issue. ;) ).
Paulemar:
My streamline .177 is sighted in at 30 yards. My Crown in .22 is sighted in at 50. While I do have the ability to shoot at 92 yards in my backyard, I usually reserve those shots for .25 or above. On those rare windless days I might shoot at ping pong balls or small water filled tin cans at 92 with the .177 or .22. I just don't have the inclination or capability to shoot at 150 yards & up with a pellet gun. It might be fun though. But in my case hitting something at those longer ranges with small calibers would be mostly pure luck. I do have FX No Limit rings on those 2 guns which allows me to put a bit of angle in the scope. They also keep me pretty much keep me from having to decide low, medium, or high rings just to clear the mag on certain guns. I'm afraid that holdover concerns are something we airgun shooters have to live with. Hmmmmm, looks like I've been no help to you at all.
Paul
Back_Roads:
Find an aim point way above the intended target, I am serious back when I thought I should try my most powerful and accurate break barrels out to 100, I set up an old hollow core door as the target holder, then place an aim point on top, and a larger target below, walked it in from there, and was able to hit a coffee can repeatedly with both rifles, but the .25 had the edge over the .22 with a slight left to right breeze.
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