Okay, Totally different story shooting from the bench tonight.Last night when I was sighting in when shooting offhand, I was shooting low and right from my bench sight in.... but I was fighting a trigger that had a hard, gritty spot in it right a trigger break.Long story short, my next to last shot from a sitting offhand position I felt what I thought was the trigger break, but nothing happened.I kept pulling on the trigger and finally the gun shot.I thought something had broken for sure, but I tried another shot anyway, and to my surprise, I had a much smoother trigger pull.Tonight I re- sighted in from the bench, and now the only difference in shooting offhand is it shoots exactly 1” lower, but dead in line center wise .So...8 clicks difference in elevation when shooting from the bench, and 8 clicks down when shooting offhand. I tried it several times to make sure.That gritty spot in the trigger was pulling me down and right when shooting offhand before it smoothed out I guess.I’ve got to learn how to post pics from my I phone... this rifle is shooting phenomenal groups from the bench.Crosman hollowpoints are shooting just as well as anything i’ve tried so far.I’m already wanting to try a .177 cal. In this rifle before the Black Friday sale goes off.... going to be hard to resist.Don’t need one.... just want it lol!
I ordered a .22 Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle based on Toms recommendation. It came today. Gotta say, I'm highly disappointed w/ it. It's not Toms fault, it's PA's fault. They sold me a dud.I had requested their 10 for 10 service, thinking they'd select a good one for me. They didn't.PA tested this rifle with .22 RWS Hobby 11.9 grain pellets. It's velocity was chronographed and the velocity for each shot are as follows. #1-780.86, #2-781.82, #3-788.18, #4- 796.79, #5-777.55, #6- 783.95, #7-779.50, #8-781.87, #9-782.12, #10-777.65. For an average velocity of 783.03 and energy of 16.2 fpe.One might think the PA tester would have noted the lower velocity and selected another one for me. Guess not.NP2 power? I'm thinking this is more like Crosman .22 Optimus using the B-19 platform type power.I bought this rifle w/ the expectation of it being a 21 fpe air rifle (having read through this particular thread which has some great posts on it). A review I saw at PA for the Crosman .22 Valiant SBD NP2 was chronying at 840 fps w/ the RWS Hobby 11.9 grain pellets for 18.6 fpe. Another review for the Benjamin Trail NP2 showed velocities w/ RWS Hobby's 11.9 gr @ 910-960 fps w/o break -in or cleaning the barrel.I cleaned the barrel w/ Goo Gone. Took 4 patches to get it clean. I'm getting 1 inch groups at 10 yards using AA 16 grainers and Crosman Dome 14.3's. I can't figure out if the piston seal is bad or the powerplant is.PA's return policy not worthy too. I'm looking at a 20% loss and shipping charges I paid and will have to pay if I return it.Sorry for the whiny post, guys. I expected better from this rifle. *Shrugs*.Caveat Emptor, I guess.
Thanks for the tips, Tommy. I haven't tested it at 25 or 30 yards yet. I shot about 25 pellets yesterday at 10 yards to sight it in. I'm getting 1 inch 5 shot groups w/ AA 16 gr Diabolo Fields and Crosman 14.3 gr Domes.I don't like the trigger. If I keep it, an SLT trigger kit is definitely in the forecast. I may just go to Home Depot Monday and get a .026 wire spring to replace the .530'', .035 wire OEM spring. I'll do 25 yard testing at a local park on Monday. That's a good idea about calling Crosman support. I'll do that on Monday too.I emailed PA and told them why I was dissatisfied. I didn't know PA had a Gate here. That's a good idea about starting a new topic. I'll probably do that. I figure the 10 for 10 tester wasn't trained right and/or they didn't teach him about bad piston seals, leaky gas pistons, etc. Being a tester he should have known the velocity was way too low and selected another rifle (or 2 or even 3) for testing.Thanks for your help and good advice.Best Wishes to you too ... Bob.
Quote from: Longbob on November 30, 2019, 12:19:59 PMThanks for the tips, Tommy. I haven't tested it at 25 or 30 yards yet. I shot about 25 pellets yesterday at 10 yards to sight it in. I'm getting 1 inch 5 shot groups w/ AA 16 gr Diabolo Fields and Crosman 14.3 gr Domes.I don't like the trigger. If I keep it, an SLT trigger kit is definitely in the forecast. I may just go to Home Depot Monday and get a .026 wire spring to replace the .530'', .035 wire OEM spring. I'll do 25 yard testing at a local park on Monday. That's a good idea about calling Crosman support. I'll do that on Monday too.I emailed PA and told them why I was dissatisfied. I didn't know PA had a Gate here. That's a good idea about starting a new topic. I'll probably do that. I figure the 10 for 10 tester wasn't trained right and/or they didn't teach him about bad piston seals, leaky gas pistons, etc. Being a tester he should have known the velocity was way too low and selected another rifle (or 2 or even 3) for testing.Thanks for your help and good advice.Best Wishes to you too ... Bob.BobPA defiantly reads the posts in that Gate. It as helped others to post about there problems there.I am keeping my fingers crossed & hoping that you will get a successful resolution on your rifle.Best Wishes - Tom
Quote from: A.K.A. Tommy Boy on November 30, 2019, 02:38:18 PMQuote from: Longbob on November 30, 2019, 12:19:59 PMThanks for the tips, Tommy. I haven't tested it at 25 or 30 yards yet. I shot about 25 pellets yesterday at 10 yards to sight it in. I'm getting 1 inch 5 shot groups w/ AA 16 gr Diabolo Fields and Crosman 14.3 gr Domes.I don't like the trigger. If I keep it, an SLT trigger kit is definitely in the forecast. I may just go to Home Depot Monday and get a .026 wire spring to replace the .530'', .035 wire OEM spring. I'll do 25 yard testing at a local park on Monday. That's a good idea about calling Crosman support. I'll do that on Monday too.I emailed PA and told them why I was dissatisfied. I didn't know PA had a Gate here. That's a good idea about starting a new topic. I'll probably do that. I figure the 10 for 10 tester wasn't trained right and/or they didn't teach him about bad piston seals, leaky gas pistons, etc. Being a tester he should have known the velocity was way too low and selected another rifle (or 2 or even 3) for testing.Thanks for your help and good advice.Best Wishes to you too ... Bob.BobPA defiantly reads the posts in that Gate. It as helped others to post about there problems there.I am keeping my fingers crossed & hoping that you will get a successful resolution on your rifle.Best Wishes - TomThanks Tom.I made the thread at the PA gate. I shot another 5 shot group at 10 yards. This time w/ Benjamin 14.3 gr HP's. PA included a 500 pellet can of them w/ my order. I haven't opened that can yet, but was using an older can I have of them.This time I shot my 1st 0.5 inch group w/ the SR. I'm starting to like it. I sure wish I had a chrony to see what the velocity is for them. Based on what the 11.9 Hobbies did, I presuming 735-750 fps or so.
Here are the stats for the 14.3 gr CPHP with 5 shots.812 fps749736804783AV 776, FPE 19.13, ES 76, SD 33The Barracudas performed much better although the fps was lower and much more accurate. The CPHPs gave me a little over an inch group.Buddyb
Dan are you figuring that because of the extreme spread?The Barracudas only had an extreme spread of 13.The FPS is about the same as other numbers I have seen.Buddyb
PA was good at taking my rifles back, I had 2 Benjamin Trails that were bad. I called them and got a RMA number and they paid shipping as well.Buddyb