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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #240 on: October 01, 2020, 03:39:55 PM »
Just an update: I tried a couple of more different pellets and found the best one for me in this gun, the H&N 16.36 terminators.

Caliber    Pellet                   Wgt Grns     Vel/fps Avg 5 shots      Hi/Low       ES/SD       FPE
.22        H&N Terminator         16.36                775                  780/773        7/2       21.82

Looking really good. Have you tried the 15.4 gr Daisy HP's? Amazon had a $7.00 sale on them awhile back. Lots of folks here cornered the market on them. My SR shoots them pretty good out to 30 yards.

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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #241 on: October 01, 2020, 05:22:53 PM »
I was one of those, I got 8 or 10 tins and should have gotten more.  They shoot pretty well from my SG as well but I cannot fully seat them with my finger and need to use a pellet seater or the skirt can get mashed a bit.  I don't want to have to use a seater.  Mine really likes the AA 16s. 

I really like my SG!
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #242 on: October 01, 2020, 05:30:08 PM »
Thanks for the ammo suggestions, I just bought 5 tins of the H&N terminators so it'll be a while before I buy anymore  pellets ;D

I'm a little naive, what's a LDC? I'm thinking its a noise suppressor of some sort.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #243 on: October 01, 2020, 10:36:37 PM »
Thanks for the ammo suggestions, I just bought 5 tins of the H&N terminators so it'll be a while before I buy anymore  pellets ;D

I'm a little naive, what's a LDC? I'm thinking its a noise suppressor of some sort.

That's what it is. A noise suppressor.

Take a look at Reply # 183 made by Dan on page 10 of this thread. I've been interested in getting a can for my SR since May. See Reply #226 on page 12. I was steered to Rocker1 who sells them for $55. Geo sells them for less than half of that. It's my understanding Rockers LDC's are about 3 DB's quieter than Geo's.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #244 on: October 01, 2020, 10:45:01 PM »
I was one of those, I got 8 or 10 tins and should have gotten more.  They shoot pretty well from my SG as well but I cannot fully seat them with my finger and need to use a pellet seater or the skirt can get mashed a bit.  I don't want to have to use a seater.  Mine really likes the AA 16s. 

I really like my SG!

Wow, 10 tins. I got 2 tins of them. They do seat a bit tight in mine too. My SR really likes the AA 16's also. And yeah, I really like my SR too. I need to shoot it more. Probably will after the LDC gets here. It's not that backyard friendly, ATM. I live in an apt complex and do most of my shooting at night after everyone is asleep.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #245 on: October 01, 2020, 11:58:33 PM »
I use either a tanto or a crosman baffle stuffed into a length of CF tube and a washer to cap the end that screws onto the barrel.  Both work well and both make a big difference.  My gun has quite a bark.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #246 on: October 02, 2020, 12:05:36 PM »
Ray,

I know. The town I where I live has a park just on the border of city limits. I do or rather did my 50 yard testing there. Unfortunately, a local car theft ring has been dumping cars there over the spring, so the access road I do my testing on has been closed since May. I can do (up to) 45 yard testing in my backyard at night; but to do that I need my SR to be a lot quieter. That Geo LDC is going to do the trick for that.

As it happens, a man made ditch/storm drain runs through the middle of the property of my apt complex. In my backyard. Fenced on both sides. Over the years its turned itself into sort of a creek. Plenty of wildlife. Including coons & possums. I see hawks sitting on the fence occasionally.

I keep a bird feeder in my backyard to attract more wildlife.

I may see about doing my shooting in the ditch itself or alongside of it during the daytime. Gotta thin out the water moccasins that are there 1st, but after that it should make a good spot. Distance wise, 50 yard and farther testing would be easy to do.

Better to wait until after the 1st frost though. Otherwise, the mosquito's will eat me alive.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #247 on: October 02, 2020, 12:14:39 PM »
Bob,
Geo's LDC will do the job very nicely.  I have several of his builds and they are all excellent.  His prices are very reasonable and he is a great guy!
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #248 on: October 02, 2020, 02:48:32 PM »
Bob,
Geo's LDC will do the job very nicely.  I have several of his builds and they are all excellent.  His prices are very reasonable and he is a great guy!

I don't doubt it, Ray. I got one of his 'Hi Performance' 7' 'slim LDC' s for my flat topped .22 Backpacker and it quieted it down nicely. I've been shooting my Backpacker for the past few nights and nary anyone has known I was doing it. I'll be even happier when he gets some .22 Beeman P-17 barrels back in stock. I asked him about that and since the demand for his LDC's is high right now, most of his time has been spent in meeting that demand.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #249 on: October 07, 2020, 12:13:36 PM »
My  'Hi Performance' 1.2' diameter 7 ' 1/2-20 LDC for my Crosman .22 Summit Ranger NP2 arrived yesterday. It works great. Inside it is mouse fart quiet. Outside at night it is a tad louder than a mouse fart; but, nothing like it had been.

Inside: oddly enough; a fart is exactly what it sounds like.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #250 on: January 16, 2021, 03:09:48 AM »
Well,

After close to 4000 shots and changing my piston seal after the first one failed on me...

Crosman domes 14.3 gr. at 3 ft. from the muzzle....
754.7 FPS.
756.6
756.0
755.3
756.0
Total of 755.7
Add 4 ft. FPS. for at the muzzle velocity for
759.7 and 18.3 ft. lbs.

Not the 800 plus FPS. some are getting with 14.3  gr. pellets, but still right where this one has shot with the crosmans all along right out of the box.
Glad I picked one of these rifles up before they discontinued them. ;)
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #251 on: January 16, 2021, 09:14:16 AM »
Well,

After close to 4000 shots and changing my piston seal after the first one failed on me...

Crosman domes 14.3 gr. at 3 ft. from the muzzle....
754.7 FPS.
756.6
756.0
755.3
756.0
Total of 755.7
Add 4 ft. FPS. for at the muzzle velocity for
759.7 and 18.3 ft. lbs.

Not the 800 plus FPS. some are getting with 14.3  gr. pellets, but still right where this one has shot with the crosmans all along right out of the box.
Glad I picked one of these rifles up before they discontinued them. ;)

Me too Buddy !

Mine shoots strong and has good accuracy too.

This summer I was placing head shoots, " Dead Center Between The Eyes," on chipmunks at 35 yards with my Summit Ranger rifle.

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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #252 on: January 16, 2021, 11:03:10 AM »

Mine shoots strong and has good accuracy too.

This summer I was placing head shoots, " Dead Center Between The Eyes," on chipmunks at 35 yards with my Summit Ranger rifle.

Best Wishes - Tom

Hey Tom, I noticed you're using Crosman .22 Destroyers. If they're accurate in yours, they're likely accurate in mine. I'll have to get some of those. I have plenty in .177 caliber.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #253 on: January 16, 2021, 03:39:24 PM »

Mine shoots strong and has good accuracy too.

This summer I was placing head shoots, " Dead Center Between The Eyes," on chipmunks at 35 yards with my Summit Ranger rifle.

Best Wishes - Tom

Hey Tom, I noticed you're using Crosman .22 Destroyers. If they're accurate in yours, they're likely accurate in mine. I'll have to get some of those. I have plenty in .177 caliber.

Hi Robert.

Most guns won't shoot them very accurately.
The Destroyers are indeed accurate in the Summit Ranger that I own.
They work great for me in the .22 cal. Hatsan Vortex Edge too.
If a gun will shoot them accurately then they make very good hunting pellets.
They give both... good expansion & deep penetration.

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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #254 on: January 16, 2021, 09:02:16 PM »
Hi Robert.

Most guns won't shoot them very accurately.
The Destroyers are indeed accurate in the Summit Ranger that I own.
They work great for me in the .22 cal. Hatsan Vortex Edge too.
If a gun will shoot them accurately then they make very good hunting pellets.
They give both... good expansion & deep penetration.

Best Wishes - Tom

I've been getting great results w/ Crosman's 'Black Widow' .177 Destroyers from my flat topped 1377. I need to give them a 25 yard test. I'd do the 25 yard test now; but, it would be a superfluous test. I have a 12 inch 1377 barrel on the way from Charles Mellon and a Geo LDC for that barrel.

If Crosman ever decides to make a .22 version of the 'Black Widow' Destroyer , it could be a real sleeper. They probably will eventually.




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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #255 on: January 16, 2021, 11:45:12 PM »
Hi Robert.

Most guns won't shoot them very accurately.
The Destroyers are indeed accurate in the Summit Ranger that I own.
They work great for me in the .22 cal. Hatsan Vortex Edge too.
If a gun will shoot them accurately then they make very good hunting pellets.
They give both... good expansion & deep penetration.

Best Wishes - Tom

I've been getting great results w/ Crosman's 'Black Widow' .177 Destroyers from my flat topped 1377. I need to give them a 25 yard test. I'd do the 25 yard test now; but, it would be a superfluous test. I have a 12 inch 1377 barrel on the way from Charles Mellon and a Geo LDC for that barrel.

If Crosman ever decides to make a .22 version of the 'Black Widow' Destroyer , it could be a real sleeper. They probably will eventually.

Hi Robert.

Your 1377 sounds like it will be a wicked backyard shooter once you get your new barrel and LCD.

Thanks for the TIP on Black Widow Destroyers.
I have a .117 cal. Hatsan Vortex Striker that shoots regular Destroyers so I'll have to get some and try them out. 
I'll be on the look out for them in .22 cal too.


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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #256 on: January 17, 2021, 10:33:29 AM »
Good to see your back and doing well Tom. Hope your wife is recovered as well. ;D
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« Reply #257 on: February 03, 2021, 02:44:08 AM »
Not trying to drag this thread out, but I want to share about my Summit rangers. When these hit the PA website originally I ordered one in .177, as these were the cheapest NP2's available. I liked it so much and after reading Tom's review I decided to get one in .22. The .177 has always been hard to cock, as if the gas ram was over pressurised. It wasn't terribly hard, but much more noticeable than the .22 version I later received. They have both been fantastic critter getters. The .177 has close to 2,000 shots through it, and is still going strong. The.22 has far less, maybe about 500 or so. If these are still available they are a much better than the NP1 offerings, in my opinion. Hopefully they remain in the Crosman stable, but if not the Benji NP2's are still a decent offering, though the sights aren't as good. In .177, 7.9 grain pellets are just barely sub sonic, and with open sights if I can see it, I can hit it. The .22 has some gusto also, and I feed it destroyers and JSB 18 grain pellets mostly, but luckily it's not pellet picky so just about anything on hand will work.
     So sorry for dragging this out, and hope everyone is well.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #258 on: February 03, 2021, 12:47:48 PM »
Not trying to drag this thread out, but I want to share about my Summit rangers. When these hit the PA website originally I ordered one in .177, as these were the cheapest NP2's available. I liked it so much and after reading Tom's review I decided to get one in .22. The .177 has always been hard to cock, as if the gas ram was over pressurised. It wasn't terribly hard, but much more noticeable than the .22 version I later received. They have both been fantastic critter getters. The .177 has close to 2,000 shots through it, and is still going strong. The.22 has far less, maybe about 500 or so. If these are still available they are a much better than the NP1 offerings, in my opinion. Hopefully they remain in the Crosman stable, but if not the Benji NP2's are still a decent offering, though the sights aren't as good. In .177, 7.9 grain pellets are just barely sub sonic, and with open sights if I can see it, I can hit it. The .22 has some gusto also, and I feed it destroyers and JSB 18 grain pellets mostly, but luckily it's not pellet picky so just about anything on hand will work.
     So sorry for dragging this out, and hope everyone is well.


Hi Zack.

No need to worry about dragging this thread out sir.   
This thread was meant to be an on going one for folks that have a Summit Ranger.
I posted it for people to share there thoughts & experiences either good or bad about the Summit Ranger.
Many folks have posted here and hopefully many more will do likewise.
My rifle is still shooting well and I really like mine.
As far as accuracy goes with my rifle, last summer and fall I was able to place some, between the eyes, dead center shots on chipmunks at 35 yards.
I was shooting 14.3 gr. Crosman Destroyers at the chipmunks when I did this.
I am pretty sure that Crosman has now discontinued the Summit Ranger.
That is too bad, as the Summit Ranger has made a fairly good hunting rifle, leastwise it has for me.
It has several features that I like.
I am surprised at how many folks have been interested enough in the Summit Ranger, to have read this thread.
Thank you for your reply Zack.


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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #259 on: February 07, 2021, 02:12:50 AM »
Hey Tom hope all is well,have not been on for a while work,family but still shooting the shell out of the Summit. Open sights doing well . Take care.    Mike.   Wolfer
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