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Title: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on August 26, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
I used to bowhunt this valley way before I ever got into airguns so it has to be 17-18 years ago.

I heard a couple years ago that now the area has Spanish goat in it.

Yesterday I had my first chance of going to scout the valley,....it changed so much since last time I was there, like most valleys do around here even in short time spans.

Anyway, at 12:15 I got into a nice heard, then 20 minutes later I saw 3 more goats and I even got into 2 small hogs at around 1:30.

Hopefully in the near future I'll find sometime to go hunt there,...it should be fun  ;D
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: uglymike on August 26, 2021, 05:22:12 PM
How big are those goats Manny? I'm wondering what will be your weapon of choice? Do they taste as good BBQ as the goats on the mainland?  ;)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on August 26, 2021, 05:55:49 PM
How big are those goats Manny? I'm wondering what will be your weapon of choice? Do they taste as good BBQ as the goats on the mainland?  ;)

The old males get pretty big, I will be bringing one of my REX .357 goats are easier to take down than pigs with the body shot
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Traxxx on August 26, 2021, 06:02:55 PM
Mmmmmmm tacos de cabra.  ;D
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on August 27, 2021, 07:45:01 PM
Was just fine tuning my zero on the REX .357 Mini-Carbine shooting the Matts bullets 158gr Hollowpoint at 25 Yards.

She is the gun of choice for this hunt.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on September 01, 2021, 09:33:35 PM
Nice find brother. Hoping you can bag a goat. Just a few quick insights.
When dispatching goats, the meat of the older animals can be rather tough, and more than a little gamey. So if harvesting older animals, they taste better in stews and curries and such other slow cooking methods. In curry, spicy with hot peppers and coconut milk is best.

Best of luck with the new hunt on your old stomping grounds brother.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 04, 2021, 07:15:40 PM
Yeah, that is a dilemma,

......go for a big, shaggy, big horned Billy or a tasty little one ?
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 04, 2021, 10:27:01 PM
Following with mouthwatering enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on September 06, 2021, 09:41:13 PM
Yeah, that is a dilemma,

......go for a big, shaggy, big horned Billy or a tasty little one ?

I know right  :D
I suggest a smaller more tasty specimen. There won't be as much meat, but it makes up for that with flavor and tenderness and shorter cooking times.
But if you do opt for a big billy, I highly recommend you try it in a West Indian style curry.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Traxxx on September 06, 2021, 10:04:08 PM
Could always compromise and take a old doe. More tender than the Billy and bigger than the youngling. Also will take a non breeding animal out of the heard, providing more food for the breeding does and younglings.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 07, 2021, 10:39:40 PM
Yeah, that is a dilemma,

......go for a big, shaggy, big horned Billy or a tasty little one ?

I know right  :D
I suggest a smaller more tasty specimen. There won't be as much meat, but it makes up for that with flavor and tenderness and shorter cooking times.
But if you do opt for a big billy, I highly recommend you try it in a West Indian style curry.

Hmmm... pressure cook with West Indian curry?
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 08, 2021, 01:06:18 PM
I guess the decision will be made in the field, in the heat of the moment.

I might be able to swing it Thursday,....it will be great to see goats in action such a different type of hunting compared to hogs.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Pellet Fun on September 08, 2021, 05:08:45 PM
Good luck Manny. I hope you bag one.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 09, 2021, 11:10:15 PM
I guess the decision will be made in the field, in the heat of the moment.

I might be able to swing it Thursday,....it will be great to see goats in action such a different type of hunting compared to hogs.

Looking forward to following this story.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 10, 2021, 03:52:15 AM
Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to go today, Saturday I have to go get my weekly test so I don't have to take the vaccine,...Sunday is my next window, hopefully I manage to go.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: uglymike on September 10, 2021, 06:40:51 AM
May the wind cooperate and your aim hold true. I'd wish you luck but you don't need it, you're an apex hunter.   
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: R.K. on September 10, 2021, 10:22:14 AM
The smaller ones are easier to get home. Plus if the quicker you run out of meat the sooner you get to go and get more.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 10, 2021, 12:45:10 PM
The smaller ones are easier to get home. Plus if the quicker you run out of meat the sooner you get to go and get more.

:) :) :) I like your philosophy
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 10, 2021, 12:46:26 PM
May the wind cooperate and your aim hold true. I'd wish you luck but you don't need it, you're an apex hunter.   

Thanks, I think this is gonna be a lot of fun,.....looking forward to hunt that valley.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Traxxx on September 10, 2021, 12:53:31 PM
So out of curiosity, what breed are the goats?
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 10, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
So out of curiosity, what breed are the goats?

Spanish Goats,....big shaggy with wide sweeping horns.
(https://fullyguided.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/hawaiian-ibex-842x474.jpg)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Traxxx on September 10, 2021, 01:54:28 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 11, 2021, 01:37:20 AM
So out of curiosity, what breed are the goats?

Spanish Goats,....big shaggy with wide sweeping horns.
(https://fullyguided.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/hawaiian-ibex-842x474.jpg)

Wow, Manny!!
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 11, 2021, 04:14:22 AM
Not me brother  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I just picked the Photo of this Hawaiian kid hunting the goats we have here  ;)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 11, 2021, 01:27:54 PM
(https://morningchores.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Spanish-Goat-Breed-Info-Characteristics-and-Care-FI.jpg)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 13, 2021, 03:52:45 PM
I had a great hunt yesterday in this valley,
there's so much to write that I've been lazy to start it :) took a bunch of pictures too
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 13, 2021, 11:03:44 PM
Sounds like a marinating story... cookin up soon!
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:29:02 PM
So last Sunday I had a great hunt,

Started hearing goats high on a ridge a couple miles in the valley, I follow their movement as they moved inland from the valley bottom,
as I'm stalking I notice a small heard come my way on the valley bottom so I dropped on the ground behind a small rock and a kukui nut tree,
they got to me pretty quick, the Alfa billy was a black but not shaggy medium size Billy, there was a younger red one and about 8-10 Nannies

I had several shots at the Billy but it felt wrong taking a shot on the first contact ( in Hindsight I should have taken it because the younger Billy was way better looking so probably better genes to spread )

Anyway eventually a little nanny came all the way beside me, spotted me and the alarm was sounded with the heard making it up the slope at lightining speed  ;D ;D

kept following the heard on the ridge until as I was rounding a Banyon tree I spotted them coming down the valley floor, 2 solid Billys in the heard that was much more numerous, unfortunately as soon as they got to the bottom they immediately climbed the opposite slope.

Loved it, such a great hunt

I will be going again tomorrow morning

Here's a couple pictures of the valley,.....looks much nicer in the early morning soft light
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:34:19 PM
I have no idea why is not letting me post more pictures
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:35:18 PM
Ok one at a time
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Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:36:46 PM
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Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:39:40 PM
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Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
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Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 04:42:10 PM
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Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on September 17, 2021, 08:46:35 PM
Sounds like you had a good time. You'll get one, it's just a matter of patience and deciding on the right one.

Goats are smart, really smart, and have exceptionally good eyesight and a keen sense of smell. So yeah, if one spots you or gets wind of you and takes off the entire herd will bolt especially if the herd has been hunted before, even once.

Best of luck to you brother, and stay safe. The terrain looks a bit tricky in a couple of those pics.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 17, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
Pictures don't do it justice, It's a beautiful valley with steep unclimbable ( unless you a goat ) sides, and yes big boulders everywhere make navigation interesting,......It's a ton of fun to hunt here :)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: uglymike on September 17, 2021, 11:11:07 PM
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Are those the roots of the tree or the tree themselves? Looks like it'll be a tough drag getting your goat out with those rocks.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Traxxx on September 17, 2021, 11:25:29 PM
Great pix, I am glad you got out on the hunt. Glad your’e being selective on your take, I know to many that will take anything they see.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Back_Roads on September 18, 2021, 12:10:23 AM
 Part of the hunt learning the games habits and habitat, meet the heard and then decide  8)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 18, 2021, 03:30:40 AM
Just filled my gun, picked out the clothing and got the backpack ready
Planning to get to the valley by 8 tomorrow morning, no point getting there to early since goats take awhile to get going :)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 18, 2021, 03:33:19 AM
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Are those the roots of the tree or the tree themselves? Looks like it'll be a tough drag getting your goat out with those rocks.

These are the roots of Banyan trees, the tree is on the top of the ridge and roots come all the way down to the valley floor,
I've seen some in very high cliffs come down for as much as 200 feet, probably more.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on September 19, 2021, 07:12:07 PM
I had a great hunt yesterday,
heard goats up on the ridges, not as much as last time but still plenty but never got eyes on them, never made contact.

Will give this place a couple weeks off and next time I will go for an afternoon/evening hunt, also will wait for a day with more wind too.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on September 25, 2021, 07:37:51 AM
Looking forward to reading about the hunt in a couple weeks! And yes, those roots are something to behold!
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on October 19, 2021, 08:11:13 PM
Awful quiet in here.
Any updates Manny?
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on October 20, 2021, 01:24:46 PM
Sorry, my life is a bit upside down,

Can't shoot. test guns, check zeros,.....no real time to hunt, need to take care of things, have to work more and still not able to make ends meet.
Not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel at the moment, might get a window this weekend but not sure.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on October 20, 2021, 05:38:39 PM
That's tough brother. I hope your time and financial situations improve soon. I think we can all relate to some extent.

Hang in there bro. Always remember that nothing lasts forever, not even the bad times. We just gotta keep on keeping on.

Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on October 20, 2021, 10:18:00 PM
Thanks for checking in brother. No rush, we're here either way and thoughts are with you.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on October 21, 2021, 02:08:34 PM
Thanks fellas,

one way or an other things will change,
we even considering a move to Europe, the fact that 2 full time working adults are not able to find a place to rent is pretty sad,
we have a few months to think about this, in the meantime this place we are staying I can't even let one round off so it chills everything down :(
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on November 09, 2021, 12:50:51 AM
Spent the afternoon/evening in the goat valley and hear absolutely no sound,

I'll go back hunting there at the crack of dawn seems more productive.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on November 09, 2021, 05:21:32 PM
Too bad, but not totally unexpected.
Goats will graze over a very large area. They will be here this morning, and 3 miles away by nightfall, nibbling and frolicking all the way along.

Might want to brush up on your tracking skills bro. Or maybe use a drone.
Best of luck.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on November 11, 2021, 04:39:04 PM
I found a place where they come down to the valley and go up the opposite ridge, next time will go scout up the 2 ridges to see if it's valuable hunting grounds,
but I expect tall, thick Elefant grass and that makes for unhuntable grounds.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Mod90 on November 11, 2021, 07:04:11 PM
Goats love to eat elephant grass, so if that's the case you may just get lucky still, if you stick to the outer perimeter of the tall grass.
Or even better, find out where they drink. Most goats need to drink a good bit of water to help them digest all that roughage, so they don't stray terribly far from a water source. There's a possibility of less brush at the water source.

Good luck. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on November 11, 2021, 10:16:15 PM
Yeah I see signs of them eating Elephant grass in the valley where is more green and tender, usually tho one on top of ridges is older and more dry.

Either way I love scouting, big part of hunting for me :)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: splitbeing on November 15, 2021, 07:07:44 PM
Staying tuned for scouting updates.
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on November 28, 2021, 01:12:30 PM
Been waiting all morning for the rain to let off,...leaving now to give it a shot, hopefully I manage to hear/ see goats today :)
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on November 28, 2021, 08:03:06 PM
Well, one more day in the valley and no contact, not to bad not getting visual but like last time I've heard nothing and this is not a good sign at all since goats especially in the morning are really vocal,

I'm starting to think that they vacated the area and probably somewhere else laughing at me thinking " Boy you should have taken the shot when you had the chance, now dream on "   ;D ;D

Still was a great morning in the woods and I actually got to see an Owl,..how cool is that ?
Title: Re: Goat hunting.
Post by: d27447 on November 28, 2021, 11:38:29 PM
Owls are magnificent creatures.  Last week I had a huge Owl spread out sunning in my backyard in the opening among the trees. Awesome stuff, I hope it comes back.