Thanks all. So much good information. Sometimes you go on a board as a new person and people either do what they can to make you feel dumb or they're not so free with sharing info. I should have guessed the hunters and country folk would be different.Right now, I'm leaning towards this Hawke Sport Optics Vantage 4-12x40 for $130. Thoughts? I'm willing to go a little over $100 if it's worth it.Thanks again!