Quote from: Motorhead on May 06, 2013, 02:31:44 AMGot motivated after remembering reading some time ago a "FIX" for those with loose fitting cocking shoes and subsequent breech seal issues Did a quick partial tear down to the point cocking link & spring was removed, breech slid rearward and the SHOE could be lifted out.Dug out some .010" SS shim stock and cut a strip equal to shoes width and @ 1/4" longer.Next Bent one end at 90* creating a 3/32" or so catch edge.Next placed shoe against bend and then did other end effectively making a End for End shim shoe for the shoe. Trimmed it up so vertical edges were uniform and deburred it. Heavy moly on all sides placing SS shim shoe in first, then cocking shoe within it followed by reassembling rifle.WOW !!! .... that .010" setback of linkage created by the SS shim shoe now has cocking arm doing a firm and mechanical bottoming out of breech connection with a firm CLICK locking arm into detent ball.Testing in the A.M. If this is not it .... I'm so done screwing around Do you want metal on metal at the breech?? I have one of Jim's steet shoes on hand, but haven't taken the time to fit it yet...
Got motivated after remembering reading some time ago a "FIX" for those with loose fitting cocking shoes and subsequent breech seal issues Did a quick partial tear down to the point cocking link & spring was removed, breech slid rearward and the SHOE could be lifted out.Dug out some .010" SS shim stock and cut a strip equal to shoes width and @ 1/4" longer.Next Bent one end at 90* creating a 3/32" or so catch edge.Next placed shoe against bend and then did other end effectively making a End for End shim shoe for the shoe. Trimmed it up so vertical edges were uniform and deburred it. Heavy moly on all sides placing SS shim shoe in first, then cocking shoe within it followed by reassembling rifle.WOW !!! .... that .010" setback of linkage created by the SS shim shoe now has cocking arm doing a firm and mechanical bottoming out of breech connection with a firm CLICK locking arm into detent ball.Testing in the A.M. If this is not it .... I'm so done screwing around
Quote from: sperho on May 06, 2013, 08:29:45 AMQuote from: Motorhead on May 06, 2013, 02:31:44 AMGot motivated after remembering reading some time ago a "FIX" for those with loose fitting cocking shoes and subsequent breech seal issues Did a quick partial tear down to the point cocking link & spring was removed, breech slid rearward and the SHOE could be lifted out.Dug out some .010" SS shim stock and cut a strip equal to shoes width and @ 1/4" longer.Next Bent one end at 90* creating a 3/32" or so catch edge.Next placed shoe against bend and then did other end effectively making a End for End shim shoe for the shoe. Trimmed it up so vertical edges were uniform and deburred it. Heavy moly on all sides placing SS shim shoe in first, then cocking shoe within it followed by reassembling rifle.WOW !!! .... that .010" setback of linkage created by the SS shim shoe now has cocking arm doing a firm and mechanical bottoming out of breech connection with a firm CLICK locking arm into detent ball.Testing in the A.M. If this is not it .... I'm so done screwing around Do you want metal on metal at the breech?? I have one of Jim's steet shoes on hand, but haven't taken the time to fit it yet...YES .... By design these guns because of having a sliding compression chambers / breech needs to have forward battery position held solid so when gun fires and hammer bottoms out impacting roof of compression chamber nothing moves. If the breech is not indexed metal on metal when action is locked closed but instead only being held by 0-ring compression, during the shot the breech o-rings get further crushed quite violently and as what seems to be the case here, slightly get caught up in gap present as gun fires getting clipped as gap is slammed closed by the impact of the falling hammer.* This above is READ MATERIAL on subject groomed from many little snippets of info from all over the web on these rifles actions.Some will head space breech lock up by transfer tube to barrel ( Factory set up )Some make shims that head space compression chamber to barrel nut, others against O.D. of main tube forward of nut.** Which ever route, once Breech is bottomed out when in full battery, breech seals are set so they get compressed and make a seal.It's raining currently ... so testings is ... well, delayed
some guns are just that way you do all the tricks and you get what you get!
Funny how I had the opposite problem. Mine was doing 17fpe and I wanted a humble 13fpe. Got what I wanted finally!I should've just swapped rifles with you, Scott, but mine's a carbine. So did you order the Vortek?