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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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September 24, 2017, 04:23:49 PM »
I saw that Pigman vid on YouTube where he used a Gamo .177 and in my book, NOT a clean and humane kill for as long as the pig he shot spent squirming. Nothing against hunting, don't get me wrong here, I'm just with Scotty on this and using the right tool for the job.
Personally, I'd say talk to Manny where pigs are concerned and get his expert advice on the subject of what calibers and power levels you should be using.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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September 24, 2017, 04:49:33 PM »
He used a .22cal with JSB pellets on that large boar with a headshot. My son's .22 Crosman Optimus has my Striker 1000x's power, but about 1.5lbs lighter. Loud though, with no suppressor. So it'll handle the H&N hornet 16.02gr's quite well for a head shot. I wanna use my Benjamin Trail NP XL725 I named, " Pigkiller" with the hornet 23.16gr version. Same head shot should face plant them.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 04, 2017, 09:12:57 PM »
Okay, the two tins of H&N hornet pellets came in last Monday. .22 @ 16.2gr, and .25 @ 24.38gr. .25's were the last version, not the latest from Pyramid air. I shot one of the .22 hornets through my Striker 1000x and it fit the chamber snugly, but not too tight. Fit flush with the breech easily too. But kicked harder than any other pellet too?! Thung, smack at POI, striking right where I aimed it. They'll be great for my son's .22 Optimus and smaller pigs.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 12, 2017, 01:19:26 PM »
When the camera's battery pack charges up, I'll be testing the H&N hornets in .22 & .25 calibers in this one and the Benjamin Trail NP XL725 through the chrono. They both kicked harder and made a louder smack on the backstop when I tried one in each, so this should prove interesting?! Stay tuned!...
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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Reply #84 on:
October 12, 2017, 08:11:30 PM »
And, as promised, here's the episode of Airgun Shooter where I test the H&N Hornets in the Hatsan Striker 1000x.22. I was pleasantly surprised with the results! I put more info in the description as well.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 12, 2017, 08:21:29 PM »
Are you getting your FPS & FPE numbers from a smartphone app or a real chrony? My Striker 1000X/.25 doesn't get anywhere near the FPE numbers you are reporting (using a Shooting Chrony Master ).
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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Reply #86 on:
October 13, 2017, 11:42:06 AM »
I get the numbers from my Caldwell deluxe chronograph with IR lights that uses a 25' wire to plug
into
the Android phone to
get
the readouts.
Also, my Striker 1000x is a .22! As can be seen in pics and episode 39 of my Airgun Shooter videos I posted. The Hatsan .25cal doesn't match the velocity numbers of the Benjamin Trail NP XL725 .25 magnum either. As listed, the Hatsan .25 is 750FPS, whereas the Trail is 900FPS and 30FPE.All three calibers in the Benjamin Trail series are magnums.
Once again, Hatsan Striker 1000x .22;
Benjamin Trail NP XL725 .25 magnum;
Hope this helps?
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 13, 2017, 11:51:52 AM »
OK, thanks for clarifying the type of chrony. I do realize your 1000X is .22, but in general the same powerplant will produce similar FPE in all calibers, depending of course on pellet weight. Looks like your 1000X is shooting above factory spec, you got a winner!
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Dianas: 52 .177, 48 .22, 34 .22, 34 .177, 34P .177, 350 Magnum .177, 240 .177
HW95 .22
Sheridan Blue Streak .20 (1972)
Benjamins: 392, M-rod .25, P-rod, Trail NP2 "Elite Stealth" .177 Wood
Hatsans: AT44-10 .22, 135QE .30, 135's .177 & .25, 100X's .177, .22 & .25 (X2), 1000X .25, Edge .25, 200S .22
Noricas: Black Eagles .22 & .177, Spider GRS .22, Dragon GRS 22, Dragon GRS Max .22
Mendoza RM 600 .22
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Stoeger X20S .22
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 13, 2017, 12:23:05 PM »
I recon so? The Trail .25 magnum is shooting at and above spec as well! What's the odds of that twice?! Gotta mod a Weaver/Picatinny rail to fit the 4 scope stop holes on the Striker 1000x though. As can be heard/seen in the video, the scope stop screw on the Hatsan went, " PING" when the screw broke, sounding just like the bullet clip in the M1 Garand's pop always complained about after the last shot.
**Oh, I almost forgot to post the chronograph readouts! Striker/H&N hornet 16.2gr;
Trail NP XL725/H&N hornet 24.38gr;
And lastly, H&N Field Target Trophy 19.91gr;
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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October 16, 2017, 01:57:39 PM »
I've definitely made up my mind to convert the scope mount to a Weaver/Picatinny rail, putting four screws through it to fit the holes Hatsan put in for the 2 scope stop positions. Then use Super Glue Gel on the base of the mount when I screw it down into place after clamping it down first until the glue dries. Should be the next-best thing to welded on?
I want this style mount on the Benji Trail;
To replace this style on the Striker 1000x;
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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Reply #90 on:
November 16, 2017, 07:25:59 AM »
Lately though, I've been thinking of removing the broken screw in the rear set of stop holes, then get new screws and another scope stop from Hatsan. Then use offset rings with both stops and blue Loctite. That might do it. Getting steadier with the monopod Trigger stick too...
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 04, 2017, 04:11:23 PM »
I was at PA earlier looking for cleaning supplies, and took a look at the scope mounts. They have a dovetail-to-Weaver/Picatinny rail conversion, 4-bolt for like 19 bucks that has to stop screws toward either end. I wonder if y'all have any experience with this one on a Hatsan?
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 05, 2017, 11:54:12 AM »
Yep, used that same mount on a Striker. It (the UTG) also has ten degrees of droop compensation. You may need to modify the end of the stop pin so it fits in the stop hole on receiver (I don’t recall modding mine as I think it terminated in a cone shape). I prefer to not use it, as it really increases the height of the scope...I like them so sit very low/close to the receiver.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 05, 2017, 12:07:57 PM »
Hey, here's a thought. Would you say the Weaver-to-Dovetail is about the same height as the Hammer's 4-bolt, one piece mount from the factory I've been using? The scope is their 3-9x32AO mildot. Here's a pic;
Now, using these Hawke low rise mounts, it seems like it'd keep it fairly low?
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 05, 2017, 07:39:18 PM »
Well, no...the first pic is my Hatsan Edge with Hammers scope and a similar height UTG scope mount:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xNxMypZsluErRs572
Note, it is a 40mm objective, and sits so tightly-close to the receiver that I had to trim the cap on the lens cover just to get it to fit. Next up is a Crosman Vantage with the UTG dove tail to weaver mount:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ky3vTfV6kBIVotGI3
Different scope, but still a 40mm objective. Mounted with UTG "low" rings (which may be a few mm higher than the Hawks rings, but are still low). Note how much higher the the scope sits on this gun. I don't mind it so much on this gun, as it is a .177 and has a relatively "flat" trajectory. The Edge being .22, is quite a bit more "loopy," and so I like the scope to sit as low as possible in the hopes of mimizing my need to compensate for different ranges. Obviously I still have to compensate, I just feel it is less of an issue at the ranges I shoot. I also like this mount on the Vantage for it's droop compensation.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 07, 2017, 06:19:03 AM »
I think the Hawke low mounts look a lot lower than those in the 2nd pic? I thought they'd sit lower than that on the weaver-to-dovetail mount? I liked the dual stop screws, which
might work
with the Striker's stop bolt hole spacing? I also have that UTG high-mount in the first pic. Just in case I might need one.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 07, 2017, 06:33:56 AM »
Nope, both stop bolts do not line up properly with the holes on the receiver. You will only get one, unless you drill a second hole for the front. Bear in mind that the mount itself raises your mounting surface by 3/4 of an inch, and that's before rings. The Hammers mount measures about 1 inch to the bottom of the ring (roughly the same height as a standard "high" ring). The rings would have to measure 1/4" from bottom to where the scope meets the ring, which just ain't happening on a weaver ring. It's just going to mount your scope a little higher. It's not "unserviceable," just a little higher than I prefer. I see guys mounting scopes on high rings, with larger measurements between the scope and the receiver, and not having any problems.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 07, 2017, 08:41:21 PM »
I'm like you...I just don't think I can force myself to live with that. Have to work on plan B again. Two Hatsan scope stops with both screws, Loctite and low to medium rings of some kind? I've got a heaping fistful stashed so far.
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 21, 2017, 06:26:54 PM »
I'd also love a Turkish walnut stock for my striker. Not this redwood spray-stained beechwood. I mean, it's okay...but I really like the Turkish walnut. I also need to replace a broken scope stop screw, and get another scope stop set. Do they sell stuff like that, or no?
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Re: New Hatsan Striker 1000x .22
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December 21, 2017, 07:21:45 PM »
Hatsan should have the scope stop plates and screws, just send them an email. As far as a Turkish Walnut stock, that's something you'll very likely have to have someone custom make for you as to the best of my knowledge, Hatsan doesn't make one for the Striker.
You can try the Vendor Gate and maybe talk to Steve at Woods and Water Outdoors or maybe Mike at Airgunstocks.com, but you're likely looking at something in the range of $300-$400 at least.
You could also check locally at any of your area gun shops and ask if they know anyone that makes gun stocks and would consider it.
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