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Title: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: Gone Fishing on September 14, 2021, 07:17:34 PM
I will post this hack here and also GTA, but be sure to read to the end before objecting.

I typically use 4 ought (0000) grade steel wool on my finishes to get the shine and smoothness (avoiding the orange skin texture) I want. Having worked in furniture stores and for a painter I learned some tricks here and there, but I've come across one all on my own recently and wanted to share!

When you use steel wool, especially with firearm or airgun stocks, and depending on the type of wood and it's condition (hairs raised from refinish or accidental Introduction of moisture and so on), you can leave a good bit of steel wool embedded in the grain of the wood, in the hair, or cause a color distortion from burning (from friction) or from micro fibers catching deviations/pockets/fibers that are invisible to sight or touch. So here is my solution.

Copper Scourers. Yes the ones you use for dishes and cleaning. They are available in 4 packs at Walmart and other stores, and usually around $4. They do not break apart, they do not burn, and the pieces in the metal mesh are quite large in comparison to any steel wool grade.

So I know what you are thinking now: but if the mesh is courser, more rough, how is the finish product going to come out as smooth as it would with a 4 ought grade? The answer is pressure. I've been experimenting this week with it and if you apply light pressure, it has produces the same quality as the 4 ought, but without any fiber catching, burning, and so on. Additionally, there is a Huge problem with steel wool in heneral, but before stating that let me also add that you could also do the rough work with the copper scourers during the first several coats and then go to 4 ought if you feel you (wait for it) ought to.

Now here is my big problem with steel wool. Rust. Anytime you are working on a stock with steel wool, whether.you know it or not, thousands of pieces of it go in the trigger, action, and air reservoir areas, making your gun susceptible to rust. You are basically introducing a catalyst for this reaction. Not so with the copper scourers.

Tips:

Walmart 4 pack

Go with the grain (obviously)

Light pressure, very light, and let the total amount of passes be exponentially more (for me 10 times more since I am doing it so light)

Do still clean (nor for metal fragments but rather poly or linseed/Tung oil material.


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PS I will post a pic of the stock I'm using it on after I am done with it.

Regards, HPAman
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: Gone Fishing on September 14, 2021, 07:35:25 PM
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Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: DonC on September 14, 2021, 08:48:42 PM
Liberon steel wool is linear, you cut it with knike to length. It does not shed in use. Combined with a product called "Wool Wax" results are perfect. Wool Wax never interfers with adhesion finishes. Another good option are synethic scrub pads in different colors are agressiveness. All these products are available from Woodcraft and/or Rockler woodworking. The scrub pads from most anywhere. Liquid soap can be substitued for wool wax.
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: Gone Fishing on September 14, 2021, 10:01:03 PM
Liberon steel wool is linear, you cut it with knike to length. It does not shed in use. Combined with a product called "Wool Wax" results are perfect. Wool Wax never interfers with adhesion finishes. Another good option are synethic scrub pads in different colors are agressiveness. All these products are available from Woodcraft and/or Rockler woodworking. The scrub pads from most anywhere. Liquid soap can be substitued for wool wax.

Ooo I might have to try that too.
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: TooJung2Die on September 14, 2021, 11:54:43 PM
I have a supply of fine copper wool. I never thought of using for wood finishing but after reading this I'll try it next time instead of steel wool. I got it for free since we used it on the job to stuff RF wave guides. A quick search shows copper wool is available from many sources and in various grades.
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: rdtricks on September 14, 2021, 11:58:41 PM
I have used this method, materials and products, several times and feel the finish is second to none - depending on what color you are looking for: https://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251486/42975.htm (https://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251486/42975.htm)

 
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: sb327 on September 15, 2021, 01:36:02 AM
For those going to try this, there are two types of copper scouring pads. Copper and copper plated steel.

Just know what your looking for. Might take a magnet with you to be sure.

Dave
Title: Re: New Woodworking Hack
Post by: Gone Fishing on September 21, 2021, 10:31:09 PM
Done