ATN X Sight HD II 3-12x questions.

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Picked up this scope in a great deal with another member (thanks James) and I have a couple issues that are more likely me than the scope. I tend to miss small details.   

First off.. the firmware update...
The current firmware revision is  xsight_1_8_08_352.bin
The latest firmware revision is  xsight2_2_1_07_779.bin

The procedure is supposed to be to copy the file onto the micro sd card and power on the scope. The scope is supposed to prompt me to update the firmware. This does not happen. The scope just goes into it's power up routine as normal. I know the card is good because I've saved pics and videos to it and saved some of the setting changes I've made. I've watched every video I could find  and I can't see me doing anything wrong.

Next is the wifi link to my android tablet or android cell phone...

I've d/ld Obsidian 4 app for the android from the ATN sight and google play and installed on both devices. I can see and connect to the scope through wifi with both devices... however, it shows that I am connected with no internet. But the Obsidian 4 software will just not bring up the scope. It just keeps saying "device disconnected".
Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? I was hoping the firmware update would resolve the issue because it.s an older unit. The older version of Obsidian will not run on either device.

I can do everything else with the scope that it's supposed to do.

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Oh yeah, one more issue...
No sound on recorded videos. I checked the setting and it's set to "on".

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I don’t recall the procedure for doing the firmware update on that scope, but it should be covered in the manual somewhere.

The Obsidian 4 app does not work with the model scope you have, download the other Obsidian app.

You may be able to initiate the firmware update through the app.

As for the audio not recording, that may be fixed with the firmware update.

[Back_Roads]

 This looks detailed

[Back_Roads]

 What I did for mounting a battery was Velcro it ti the scope or gun area near the scope.

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Paul... the older version of Obsidian says it's too old to run on my devices (Cell phone and Tablet)

James... that menu is for a newer scope than the 3-12x. I've watched that video and did exactly what is said.. no joy.

I just tried the whole process again. I formatted the card so the only thing on it was the firmware file. Still no joy.
Next I will try a brand new sd card. If that don't work I will go into settings and reset the scope to factory settings. It will resort back to the latest successful firmware before any changes were made and try to update from there.

At the end of the day, if I can't get the wifi to work so I can display live video on the tablet or cell phone, so be it. I can still record, play and post videos through you tube. If I can't get sound to record, so be it... I know what my voice sounds like and I don't need to hear the gun go bang bang. I will miss a squirrel's dramatic plea fer mercy with his last dying breathe.. that's a bummer.
That said, I remember reading someone report that sound don't work in a certain record setting.. I'll look into that some more. Maybe a factory reset will solve that.

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What I did for mounting a battery was Velcro it ti the scope or gun area near the scope.

Yep, the loop side of the velcro was still on the scope. My power bank is a tad bigger... about the size of a deck of cards but half as think. It's a bit big to put there. The pouch will work out great. It also provides space for a few other things such as mags or spare batteries.
I'll post pics tomorrow.

[Back_Roads]

  Cool you are getting it sorted out best as can be, reason for me never liking it was the buttons did not respond in freezing conditions I wanted to use it in. The Thor LT and the chap china ones work fine in cold for me.

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  Cool you are getting it sorted out best as can be, reason for me never liking it was the buttons did not respond in freezing conditions I wanted to use it in. The Thor LT and the chap china ones work fine in cold for me.

Did you ever have it linked with wifi to a cell phone or tablet?

Not much cold weather here in the south so the buttons won't be a problem.

[Back_Roads]

  Cool you are getting it sorted out best as can be, reason for me never liking it was the buttons did not respond in freezing conditions I wanted to use it in. The Thor LT and the chap china ones work fine in cold for me.

Did you ever have it linked with wifi to a cell phone or tablet?

Not much cold weather here in the south so the buttons won't be a problem.

I did have it linked to my old Galaxy S4 mini. so it did it once.

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  Cool you are getting it sorted out best as can be, reason for me never liking it was the buttons did not respond in freezing conditions I wanted to use it in. The Thor LT and the chap china ones work fine in cold for me.

Did you ever have it linked with wifi to a cell phone or tablet?

Not much cold weather here in the south so the buttons won't be a problem.

I did have it linked to my old Galaxy S4 mini. so it did it once.

Hmmm... maybe I'll dig through some of my old cell phones and see what I can come up with.

[avator]

Might also e-mail ATN and see if there is a patch or work around.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Might also e-mail ATN and see if there is a patch or work around.

Did you look in the settings for the Scope SSID and Password?  It should be under WiFi on the last tab of the menu. Then just search for the name of the scope and enter the password that’s on the scope. It should connect if the WiFi is turned in the scope. The scope acts as the router and you won’t be able to connect to your home WiFi while connected to the scope.

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Yeah, I had all that figured out... but thanks.

Ok, here's what's up....
I called ATN and spent about 20 minutes talking to a real nice guy. He didn't have to do that because it's a discontinued model and most places will just tell you they don't support them any more. But this guy hung with me.
So, this unit is not the X sight HD II.. it's the one before that... just the X Sight HD. That's why it would just ignore that firmware update. However, there is a more current update than the one that was installed.
I d/ld the correct revision and bada bing. In slicker than snot.
Then I did a factory reset like the instructions said and it went through the process and rebooted a couple times. It reconfigured wifi and I got real hopeful. Next I formatted that sd card to get rid of that update so the scope wouldn't see it again.
The wifi reconfig was false hope because the tech already told me the same thing Paul did.... Obsidian 4 will not work on that model and they have no plans to change it.... firmware can't fix it.. it's in the hardware.
Also... the original release of Obsidian will not work on newer android devices... and never will.
But, all is not lost...
Betty Lou found 4 old cell phones and she's going through them to see if any will take a charge. If they have wifi and the older Obsidian, they should be good to go. The other possibility is to find an older tablet on Ebay, a yardsale or a second hand store... maybe even a pawn shop.
The goal is only to have a display on the shooting bench for others to watch the action... it's not a game changer.

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Next...
The tech dug up the old manuals and info that they have and we, the consumer may not. Like I said.. the guy jumped through hoops. He confirmed that there is a microphone and there should be sound on the recordings.
There are 3 possibilities..
The firmware update may fix a possible glitch.
After the factory reset, there may be a setting that will be reset and it will work.
Or, the fatal one, the built in microphone has gone bad.

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Here are the new firmware changes...

RELEASE NOTES:
New feature:
New reticles shape
New reticle colors
Power off" dialog
ATN logo on photo and video

The one that makes me the most happy is the Power Off dialog. That 3 second countdown drove me nuts. If you didn't release that power button at just the right time it would just power back on. Many times I just uncapped the batteries in frustration. Now when you power off it brings up a yes or no option.
The display also seems so much brighter and clearer but that may just be due to going back to factory settings.

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That's as far as I went.... I didn't want to OD on fun for one day.   

Tomorrow I will set the time and date, do the one shot zero (because I'm sure I lost it), move stuff around on the heads up display, turn things on or off (I don't need GPS, GEO tagging or anything else the draws battery power) and check sound on recordings.

Anyways.. we are definitely going in the right direction.

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BTW... I miss stated the firmware release that was in the scope... 
It was 1 8 07 343.
The new release is the one I posted above and the one that is in it now.

You'll notice I changed the title in this post to remove the II.

[Back_Roads]

 Looks like you will have more bells and whistles, than with the version I was running, I did have balistic profiles set up that was handy for switching ammo or guns. 

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Looks like you will have more bells and whistles, than with the version I was running, I did have balistic profiles set up that was handy for switching ammo or guns. 

Yeah, that's one of the features I had't got into yet... I was very limited with the battery situation. All that is gone now so I can spend unlimited time exploring and setting it up.