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Indecision within my choice of platform on a budget

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avator:
I love my Urban but it comes up short in a few features compared to the Avenger.
Side lever.
Affordable mags.
Regulator with separate gauge and externally adjustable.
Easy 40 FPE in .25 for 50 shots.
Also one of the biggest complaints on the Urban (not a problem for me) is the ugly "pickle".
As for hand pumping.. you don't have to fill the Avenger to max pressure as long as you stay above the reg setting.
And for the record... my Avenger is every bit as accurate as my Urban.

Back_Roads:
 Just a FYI the Hatsan 125, and 135 have a very nice adjustable 2 stage trigger.
Here is a modern wood and metal pumper, with multi shot mag and scope mount groves.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/seneca-dragonfly-mk2-multi-pump-air-rifle?m=5170#10357

EdinGa:
This and the aforementioned Amazon hand pump.


https://www.pyramydair.com/product/jts-airacuda-pcp-air-rifle?m=5546

lefteyeshot:
Hatsans want take a GRT trigger. Gamos have to much plastic and cost to much. PCP is a lot of trouble. I hate pumping. I don't care for gas ram. Crosman Optimus, $100-150, with a GRT trigger, $33, or the RC roller bearing modification, $4 and an easy 5 minute job, see on Utube, can be a tac driver if you can shoot and learn the artillery hold. Good starter gun.

Aceairguns:
Thank you all for so much advice, the barra 1100z, the gauntlets barrel seems to be lacking the barrel band associated with consistant accuracy, the jts airicuda looks interesting. The avenger .25, the umarex origin all have caught my eye as all good entry level pcp, but if I am using a hand pump why not just get a Crossman 880 or similar superior pump air guns, the recent education in lack of reliability of springers, from damaging scopes, spring fatigue, the need to tune and replacentriggers, and mass production seem to plague the budhet springer, the dar gen 3 seems to check all my boxes of the price of the airicuda, with the regulaton of the airicuda max, the good rotary magazine, and I'm always skeptical about foreign made products unless it's Germany, Scandinavia, or Japan, which you pay for the engineering, I think everyone has brought me valuable advice, I can get an electric pump "air cooled" for around 220$? Again if I'm trying to save manual effort then the hand pump I have seen demonstrated, a benjamin, forgrt the "vheap chinese models" takes a lot of hard work again breaking my shoulder in a different kind of way, I think the hw97 underlever is the best springer for the cost, but that's still 600, beyond my current price range, it is 120 pumps to go from 110bar to 200bar, thats not including what it takes to get to 110 bar, I'd rather buy the benjamin .22 392s as it's the same everything except the stock is synthetic, the wood version single shot 8 pump 670fps .22 will likely eventually pop up on eBay or elsewhere, I have purchased 2 gamo springers, 1 a coil, 1 a "nitro piston" spring and I was so disappointed in the size groups at 25 yards, but in a way I can't explain, Gamo just feels cheep in my hands and when shooting, I have shoulder problems, but I'm 34, not too old to carry a 7-9lb air gun, please remember the purpose, I have 80 yards of possible distance at home to shoot off the back porch, as I am the 24/7 caretaker of a veterans widow, everyone's made valid points, but if I could shoot a 22lr from the house legally in nys, I wouldn't be spending more than my 7mm rem mag, which I paid 500 used replaced the bolt and was around 560$, for a cdl walnut stock firearm, I need the airgun for legal shooting reasons, as ome cant discharge a firearm within 500
ft of a dwelling, I want to shoot slugs do to the game as I saw a guy hit a big tom in the chest and neck with a 12ga #4 shot shotgun and no blood feathers or indication other than the footage showing the impact and the same tom spotted 1 week later just fine, I have also seen turkey take subsonic .22 air rifle shots to the head and fly/run away, also my main purpose is to perfect a single gun, as I did my benjamin 397 or 392 wood there's no way to know they look identical, from what I can see and remember about my airgun, I am not a compition shooter, but by no means a beginner marksman, I grew up in the adirondack mountains, I guess I will need to bring this post to the pcp page, as it's now become apparent any springer will always have those flyers, not shoot heavier slugs, and I want the 50-100 yard accuracy to shoot dime to Penny sized groups on a non windy day, does anyone have opinions on the aforementioned models? As nobody has stood up for the hatsan in larger caliber, in any springer models, when everywhere I look on utube it says it's the best your going to get for the $? Followed by gamo, but gamo manufactures so many of the same cheep models that tolerances are wider, chances of bad rifling or alignment, or just getting consistant scope sighting are all issues that gamo faces in its break barrels, if I am going pcp then I will at least spend the $ to buy something decent and within the category of the 300$ pcp air rifles available, and what's anyone's position on factory refurbished? Thanks again for all the feedback and support! Acesairrifle

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