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Offline Mo.sniper342

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airgun tuners
« on: March 11, 2014, 08:00:22 PM »
anyone know a good tuner for benjiman springers? my cousin has one that just doesn't shoot worth a darn. It has Genes washers, new seals, lube tune and trigger. He's had enough and wants to senf it off to someone who can make it shoot better

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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2014, 08:13:34 PM »
Not to be derogatory, but are you sure it's the gun?  Have you tightened all mounting screws, as well as scope mounting screws?  How many pellets and of what type have been tried?  Have you pushed a pellet through the gun to be sure there are no tight spots?  How is the crown?  Is it possible you have blow by at the breech seal?

You say the gun has been through a lube tune, but that can mean different things to different people.  I trust the barrel has been cleaned and the piston seal checked.

Is your cousin familiar with the artillery hold?

It would be a pity to spend money tuning a gun if the gun isn't the problem.  Be advised - a tune is not a "cure all".
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 08:39:44 PM »
JMO ... with what already has been done, and it still won't group or give any degree of consistency ( Whom ever shoots it ) likely is IMO just a Dud Gun of which you buddy is not alone on owning one.

At one time was tuning these pulling out all the stops to cover every realistic cost effective tweak avalible  :o .... success in making them good to very good after the work was NOT successful enough overall to continuing charging for work where the end result more often than not fell short of customers expectations  :P
So ... I quit tuning them.

There a fine field gun for in close work and for giggles plinking. While some have EXCELLENT shooting ones and will rightfully defend them ... more I feel as your buddy does being frustrated.  Tossing more money at it is likely a bad investment IMO.


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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 09:35:59 PM »
I'm seeing this more and more with the Benjamin/Crosman line. Folks doing all kinds of work and still not getting the expected performance. Aside from the possibility of the shooter not being proficient, I usually recommend recrowning the barrel and smoothing the loading port. Both of these are often rough on the new rifles, and cleaning them up can make a night and day difference.
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 05:19:12 AM »
my Titan is very sensitive to pivot bolt adjustment, get it right and you can stack pellets..

but it's a FINE line between too loose and too tight and just right is a lot looser than you would think..

and the difference is a lot greater than you'd think..stacking pellets versus 4" at 20 yards

it's also broken 4 scopes too...
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 11:45:56 PM »
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 11:58:52 PM »
my Titan is very sensitive to pivot bolt adjustment
My trail holds tight groups till the bolt under the barrel (behind the trigger) gets loose.

Not a lot either.  I can feel it when I break the barrel...there's a little click in the handle.

Re-tightening doesn't bring it back either, it needs to be re-zeroed - a big pain !!!

It's a quality thing, or rather a lack of...

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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 07:21:36 PM »
thanks for the input. I've tried a pile of different pellets and every way of holding this gun different scopes everything is loctited checked and rechecked. It just doesnt shoot well.  3 inch groups at 15 yds its had 3000or more pellets through it.I've given him the info  it's up to him now

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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2014, 10:01:16 PM »
Motorhead:
I know where you are coming from in being selective on 'for whom' or 'what' to tune. I have come to the point of only tuning for family or after someone talks me into it. This also allows me the time and avenue to be able to verify or teach the ability to handle the rifle and shoot properly. The AR tuning and repair world can be a tedious place to live.
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2014, 12:12:54 AM »
Motorhead:
I know where you are coming from in being selective on 'for whom' or 'what' to tune. I have come to the point of only tuning for family or after someone talks me into it. This also allows me the time and avenue to be able to verify or teach the ability to handle the rifle and shoot properly. The AR tuning and repair world can be a tedious place to live.

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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2014, 12:57:17 AM »
Time for a used Diana 34.  Good luck to your friend.
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2014, 07:39:34 AM »
JMO ... with what already has been done, and it still won't group or give any degree of consistency ( Whom ever shoots it ) likely is IMO just a Dud Gun of which you buddy is not alone on owning one.

At one time was tuning these pulling out all the stops to cover every realistic cost effective tweak avalible  :o .... success in making them good to very good after the work was NOT successful enough overall to continuing charging for work where the end result more often than not fell short of customers expectations  :P
So ... I quit tuning them.

There a fine field gun for in close work and for giggles plinking. While some have EXCELLENT shooting ones and will rightfully defend them ... more I feel as your buddy does being frustrated.  Tossing more money at it is likely a bad investment IMO.


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I had one of those. Sent it to a tuner, tried over a dozen different pellets, several different scopes, mounts, still a dud. I'd take it out, shoot a 100 shots, get frustrated, put it up. After about 2000 shots I gave up. I salvaged the GRTlll trigger, scope, mount, and had the satisfaction of dropping it into about 30' of water at a local lake.
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2014, 07:49:04 PM »


  HMM! I am waiting for the new Ntro Piston 2 rifles to hit  the dealers, I am hoping these will be on par with 34's or better.

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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2014, 08:52:02 PM »
so who tunes springers?
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 09:06:27 PM »
so who tunes springers?

  I know OleTomCat does and I think he sent you a pm.
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Re: airgun tuners
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 07:36:56 PM »
Time for a used Diana 34.  Good luck to your friend.
that's been my suggesstion all along, I'm trying to get him to bring it back to me so I can recrown and clean up the lead in but he's kinda hard headed. He's the type that thinks it's only right if he pays someone to do it, kinda like he wont get over a cold unless he goes to a doctor

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