Quote from: DaveInGA on February 24, 2014, 08:23:53 PMNow how exactly does one "boost their pump from a compressor?" I'm guessing some kind of adapter hose with a standard air compressor quick release on one side and a quick release that connects to the fitting that's been added to the pump somehow or another. Anybody have a link to a thread where it's been done? U in the ballpark!! Well as a matter of fact....I do. And if you would like to pm me your phone number, I will forward you (or anyone else) a pic of my pump ready to boost. you can post it here as I don't know how. Boosting is simple, effective and inexpensive. It is also poorly known as it is obvious to me that experts like RayK and others have not seen it in action. (No offense Ray but you need to know how well this works. But once you have spent the big bucks on an HPA tank...you no longer have a reason to try it. Some may not want to know as it takes the justification of the HPA expenditure away.) It did for me.Here is the link http://marauderairrifle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7868Good luck and good shooting.
Now how exactly does one "boost their pump from a compressor?" I'm guessing some kind of adapter hose with a standard air compressor quick release on one side and a quick release that connects to the fitting that's been added to the pump somehow or another. Anybody have a link to a thread where it's been done?
I hope you enjoy your PCP as much as I do. IMHO PCPs are the only airguns that behave like powder burners. With the two worst thing of PB's gone...the recoil and the BANG.
Quote from: Sandspike on February 24, 2014, 08:48:57 PMQuote from: DaveInGA on February 24, 2014, 08:23:53 PMNow how exactly does one "boost their pump from a compressor?" I'm guessing some kind of adapter hose with a standard air compressor quick release on one side and a quick release that connects to the fitting that's been added to the pump somehow or another. Anybody have a link to a thread where it's been done? U in the ballpark!! Well as a matter of fact....I do. And if you would like to pm me your phone number, I will forward you (or anyone else) a pic of my pump ready to boost. you can post it here as I don't know how. Boosting is simple, effective and inexpensive. It is also poorly known as it is obvious to me that experts like RayK and others have not seen it in action. (No offense Ray but you need to know how well this works. But once you have spent the big bucks on an HPA tank...you no longer have a reason to try it. Some may not want to know as it takes the justification of the HPA expenditure away.) It did for me.Here is the link http://marauderairrifle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7868Good luck and good shooting.Ray sent me the pic as promised, so I'm posting it here. Here is his original commentary:"Well I am. I went to Harbor Freight and bought a desiccant filter with blue silicon gel crystals in it that turn pink when saturated with water and a 1/4 inch female quick connector. Then I had to go to home depo to get a 1/4 in to 1/8 adapter and a 1/8 nipple for the other end of the filter. Put it all together and screwed it into my Benji pump at the intake. Then I hooked it up to my compressor tuned down to 23 PSI and what a difference it made. Going from 1800 psi to 3000 psi used to take me 60 or 70 pumps. Now it's 28 pumps and they are not really much harder, just different. I shot 3 times as many pellets this afternoon and enjoyed it much more as I usually dreaded pumping up my Mrod. Now....not so much. This is great for an old man like me that can't afford all the scuba tanks and adapters. This cost me less than 15 bucks as I already had a 150psi compressor and a hose with quick connect on it."Link to dessicant filter: http://www.harborfreight.com/inline-desiccant-dryerfilter-68215.html
Quote from: RayK on February 25, 2014, 01:20:45 AMSandspike, I believe boosting is awesome for those who only have a hand pump. If I were only hunting, I would consider it, but I do lots of tuning, experimentation, and target shooting. I doubt I would have been able to learn so much about Marauders if I didn't have access to lots of high pressure air. I bought my first Marauder in 2009, but I didn't buy a hand pump until last summer. I got one so I could take it and my P-rod on a plane to my mother-in-laws place which is loaded with squirrels. I didn't want to mess with taking a tank on the plane.RayRay, let me try to be understood here by modifying your quote above. "I believe boosting is awesome for those who can only afford to buy a hand pump." My intended audience here is those that have bought a hand pump and are dissatisfied with it or those who the expense of buying a tank would be served by a boosted pump and go ahead and buy a PCP gun. Crosman just got a slug of new Synrods back from customers who were given them for Christmas. Upon discovering that they needed a source of HPA, then returned the guns for refund. They might not have been returned if the buyers were informed about boosted pumps and not told that they needed to buy an unnecessary tank that cost more than the gun for one big enough to be useful. Yes, I just said that expensive HPA tanks are UNNECESSARY for a beginning PCP owner. I firmly believe this because if this 61 year old man can pump 30 and enjoy shooting both of his Mrods, others can as well. Yes HPA tanks are the best option overall but boosted pumps can bridge the gap between no PCP guns and getting into Darkside happiness. And just think about how many more PCP guns would be sold if the Boosted Pump method of fueling them was widely known.Knowledge is power....PCP power!
Sandspike, I believe boosting is awesome for those who only have a hand pump. If I were only hunting, I would consider it, but I do lots of tuning, experimentation, and target shooting. I doubt I would have been able to learn so much about Marauders if I didn't have access to lots of high pressure air. I bought my first Marauder in 2009, but I didn't buy a hand pump until last summer. I got one so I could take it and my P-rod on a plane to my mother-in-laws place which is loaded with squirrels. I didn't want to mess with taking a tank on the plane.Ray
My pump, My pic....my words....how did Ray send them to you??. Im cornfused
what is this "boosted pump method" you speak of!
Quote from: Sandspike on February 25, 2014, 07:36:35 PMMy pump, My pic....my words....how did Ray send them to you??. Im cornfused Nope, it was me that was confused, but I fixed it. My apologies. It's rough getting old and forgetful. Boy do I know it. I do have a questions for you: I'll use your red color method.1. Did you drill and tap your pump reservoir or did you use a pre-existing threaded hole? I miss seeing that in your original explanation. I did not drill out anything. Just remove the sintered brass filter that is under the hose and install the filter there.2. Why did you select 23 psi as your compressor output pressure going into your pump? In other words, what reasoning lead you to 23 psi? I'm not trying to be a wise acre here, I really want to know. 3. What size compressor do you have to work with? Well I vary the pressure with what feels good at the time. 23 to 28 seems best for pumping from 2000 up. But when I first fill I will go up to 40 or 50 psi.4. I have a 60 gallon and I have it's output regulated and already have a moisture trap and a moisture filter. Do I need more do you think? The more the merrier as for moisture removers. The one on the pump is another.5. Have you figured out a way to dry out the moisture filters once they've turned colors? Those moisture filters are expensive and turn pink pretty quick in my experience using them to bead blast gun parts for parkerizing. Yes you can reuse it forever. All I do is put it in a shallow aluminum pie pan and put it in a small oven at 250 for about 2 hours and it dries out. I store it in an air tight jar. Also...any decissant bags you get with electronics and such can be opened and used as well. Walmart sells desiccant crystals if you order online and it is cheap.6. What brand of pump do you have and do you think this modification can be performed on the Benjamin or Hill brands just as easily? I have only used Benjamin pump. I don't know what can be done to hill pumps
Quote from: Sandspike on February 25, 2014, 08:33:33 AMQuote from: RayK on February 25, 2014, 01:20:45 AMSandspike, I believe boosting is awesome for those who only have a hand pump. If I were only hunting, I would consider it, but I do lots of tuning, experimentation, and target shooting. I doubt I would have been able to learn so much about Marauders if I didn't have access to lots of high pressure air. I bought my first Marauder in 2009, but I didn't buy a hand pump until last summer. I got one so I could take it and my P-rod on a plane to my mother-in-laws place which is loaded with squirrels. I didn't want to mess with taking a tank on the plane.RayRay, let me try to be understood here by modifying your quote above. "I believe boosting is awesome for those who can only afford to buy a hand pump." My intended audience here is those that have bought a hand pump and are dissatisfied with it or those who the expense of buying a tank would be served by a boosted pump and go ahead and buy a PCP gun. Crosman just got a slug of new Synrods back from customers who were given them for Christmas. Upon discovering that they needed a source of HPA, then returned the guns for refund. They might not have been returned if the buyers were informed about boosted pumps and not told that they needed to buy an unnecessary tank that cost more than the gun for one big enough to be useful. Yes, I just said that expensive HPA tanks are UNNECESSARY for a beginning PCP owner. I firmly believe this because if this 61 year old man can pump 30 and enjoy shooting both of his Mrods, others can as well. Yes HPA tanks are the best option overall but boosted pumps can bridge the gap between no PCP guns and getting into Darkside happiness. And just think about how many more PCP guns would be sold if the Boosted Pump method of fueling them was widely known.Knowledge is power....PCP power! what is this "boosted pump method" you speak of!
I do have a questions for you: I'll use your red color method.Works for me.1. Did you drill and tap your pump reservoir or did you use a pre-existing threaded hole? I miss seeing that in your original explanation. I did not drill out anything. Just remove the sintered brass filter that is under the hose and install the filter there.Which makes the pump you have very easy to modify and return to "stock" form if you decide to sell it down the road. A very good thing, as people can be funny about modifications when they are buying something used.2. Why did you select 23 psi as your compressor output pressure going into your pump? In other words, what reasoning lead you to 23 psi? I'm not trying to be a wise acre here, I really want to know. Well I vary the pressure with what feels good at the time. 23 to 28 seems best for pumping from 2000 up. But when I first fill I will go up to 40 or 50 psi. So you modulate the pressure depending on where you're at in the pumping cycle, more compressor assistance at the beginning and then weaning off as your rifle's tank begins to fill.3. What size compressor do you have to work with? 4. I have a 60 gallon and I have it's output regulated and already have a moisture trap and a moisture filter. Do I need more do you think? The more the merrier as for moisture removers. The one on the pump is another. So may or may not be needed if my previously installed filters are in good shape. One could conceivably put a quick release fitting on the pump and build a filter attachment that goes on the hose. Perhaps less to get bumped and bent when storing the pump.5. Have you figured out a way to dry out the moisture filters once they've turned colors? Those moisture filters are expensive and turn pink pretty quick in my experience using them to bead blast gun parts for parkerizing. Yes you can reuse it forever. All I do is put it in a shallow aluminum pie pan and put it in a small oven at 250 for about 2 hours and it dries out. I store it in an air tight jar. Also...any discussant bags you get with electronics and such can be opened and used as well. Walmart sells desiccant crystals if you order online and it is cheap. How do you get the desiccant out? The moisture filters I have now I can get the outer plastic off, but can't get the tube that contains the desiccant apart. It's glued together. Does the Harbor Freight moisture filter come fully apart? 6. What brand of pump do you have and do you think this modification can be performed on the Benjamin or Hill brands just as easily? I have only used Benjamin pump. I don't know what can be done to hill pumps Good to know the best priced of the pumps is one that is easily modified. Looking at the various pumps Pyramid Air offers, I couldn't tell which brand you had. Their pics of the Benjamin aren't the best and look like factory pics cut and pasted to their website. Benjamin's marketing photographer leaves a lot to be desired. I'll have to look around the web for better pictures. But it's good to know, as a guy could pick up that combo deal from Pyramid Air with the pump, modify it and for not a lot of bucks, have a pretty rocking method of filling his rifle without massive expense involved. Not as convenient as a tank, but do-able in the field "stock" and definitely reasonable at the house. I saw in the other thread where you'd posted about the portable tanks from HF, but I don't see myself taking this rifle in the woods to use, as if I'm in the woods, I'm hunting deer and hogs. I really prefer the hogs/boars, because their smart and dangerous if your head is up your rear. Keeps you on your toes.
Only thing you need is a Marauder 25 cal. I love mine and you would have to kill me to get it out of my hands. A very strong endorsement for the .25 caliber. After looking at the comparison pic above, the caliber I'm favoring, costs and limitations be darned.For hunting of any kind there is no better gun than a 25 cal. Marauder. Accurate, deadly and very quiet. Accurate, deadly and quiet. My three favorite words for hunting purposes.Stacks pellets out ot 40 yards and at 50 yds 1/2" groups with JSB 25.4 grain domed pellets. Price is excellent, can be pumped up by hand pump, best deal on a lower cost high end PCP you will ever find! So easily more than accurate for hunting anything that's reasonable to kill with this caliber. A rifle that isn't hard to mod both the rifle and it's associated pump for a bit of convenience/performance increase and economical in many ways. How is the rifle's durability and ease of maintenance and repair?
Just to REALLY give You some thought regarding caliber, LOL - with the new MRODS (and especially from what it looks like the new wood-stocked models) rapidly approaching the cost of a decent, entry-level "Big Bore", well perhaps it's time to consider how serious You are about hunting ... I shoot 157gr routinely in my Career Fire 201s (unfortunately I'm waiting for a shipment at the moment so I couldn't include them for comparison) but just the sight of a SMALL 95gr .357 compared to all 3 "small caliber" pellets should pretty much sum up why I do (as I mentioned in my earlier post) almost ALL my hunting with the 9mm/.357.Obviously shot placement issues on almost anything smaller than a whitetail become shall we say "Slightly less critical" with the 9mm, hahahahaha ... Of course I only get 3 full-power shots at 900+ and about 2 more lower fps follow-ups before it's fill time, but I run nitrogen so it's not a hassle for me.
Sinceit is literally the quietest pcp air rifle without any extra shroud or ldcs DEFINeTLY go with the .25 they also come with a green mountain barrel, much better than a regular crosman. Didn't know Benjamin was a Crosman, but not surprised. Keep hearing the Green Mountain barrels are the way to go in the Benjamins, is actually becoming a them in this thread.Also for hunting squirels .25 is the best. You can take all those pests out with all 3 calibers but with a .25you have the most room for error and will stop them rit in their tracks.with a .22 or .177 you'll need perfect shot placement in the kill zone and they will still usually move around a bit before they die. Squirrels are actuslljuy tough critters if you don't get a killzone shot. Again, becoming a them related to squirrels. But absolutely true.Watch teds video comparing.22 and .25 plus on the mrod the shot count is basically the same and u can always get it tuned to your exact liking. Not sure which video that is. Can you provide a link? For me though, the shot count isn't much of a concern. I want to do my business and get back inside the house and back to work after reducing the pest population.The only reason to get a diff caliber is for competitions that have a fpe limit. I had a .22 mrod and resold it and bought a .25...best decision ever. Still basicslly just as quiet too and can always buy an LDC to make it virtually no sound. Not sure I'd need the LDC, but what is an LDC? As far as competitions, not a concern for me. If I was to shoot competition, it would be in the sniper rifle class at 600-1000 yards.From now on I'm only going to buy .25s unless its an insanely accurate gun where I am confident on being able to place a shot exactly where I want it. Get a .25 and you'll thank me! I believe you're right on this one.
Quote from: BrewCityMusic on February 26, 2014, 02:19:37 PMJust to REALLY give You some thought regarding caliber, LOL - with the new MRODS (and especially from what it looks like the new wood-stocked models) rapidly approaching the cost of a decent, entry-level "Big Bore", well perhaps it's time to consider how serious You are about hunting ... I shoot 157gr routinely in my Career Fire 201s (unfortunately I'm waiting for a shipment at the moment so I couldn't include them for comparison) but just the sight of a SMALL 95gr .357 compared to all 3 "small caliber" pellets should pretty much sum up why I do (as I mentioned in my earlier post) almost ALL my hunting with the 9mm/.357.Obviously shot placement issues on almost anything smaller than a whitetail become shall we say "Slightly less critical" with the 9mm, hahahahaha ... Of course I only get 3 full-power shots at 900+ and about 2 more lower fps follow-ups before it's fill time, but I run nitrogen so it's not a hassle for me.Now that is just ridiculous. If I need larger than a .25 caliber pellet, I am no longer in my back yard and don't need to spend that kind of money on an air rifle when I have a gun safe full of hunting rifles to choose from. If I can't use the rifles in my gun safe to hunt away from my yard, I'm in a state or country I have no business being in and need to get out of there.
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