This is my first post here, glad I stumbled on this site.
I am new to the new generation of Airguns. I am a good shot with conventional arms, but they aren't too convenient for shooting in the backyard. I had a few weak ole' pistols when I was a kid and decided i wanted to get a bb/pellet rifle for some backyard plinking because I remember how fun that used to be.
So, about a week ago I went to Walmart and bought a Daisy 880s powerline and came back the next night for a centerline laser sight, since the scope it came with was complete &^^&. It listed at 900fps with a 50bb capacity and pellet/bb versatility for 45 bucks seemed like a good deal. I took the gun home, zeroed in the laser, and it was driving nails. Mainly I got one of those Crosman foam indoor critter targets and was shooting it in the bathroom with 2 or 3 pumps..., because at 10 pumps it went clear through the target, out the backside, and put a legit hole in my bathtub! The old lady was loving that!
Impressive for 45 bucks, and I was putting holes in holes from about 15 yards with the laser sight.
But as these things tend to go
, I decided I wanted something that felt less like a toy and had a little more pop to it. The Daisy felt like it was made of cheap plastic Reading around the internet, it looked like break-barrels were the preferred type of air rifle. I bought the Daisy while I was half-drunk at 2am (gota love walmart, lol)
So, I went back to Walmart and looked at my options.. a big cat whisper, a beeman .17/.22 swappable barrel, some random other Gamo, A Benjamin Trail nitro piston, A benjamin trail all-weather NP .22 with a bull barrell, and that one gun that's endorsed by those guys on TV that says "1350 fps serious critter poppin power" on it.
They have a real nice return policy at Walmart, and talkin to the manager i figured out i can take any of these home and test em out and bring em back if i dont like em.
Lookin' at their website, the Phantom was getting the highest average reviews (and it was also the cheapest)... but when I got there I saw that they didn't actually have the Phantom, they had the "FURY" (Model number CP1K77X).
It doesn't have iron sights, but it comes with a centerpoint scope, it has an easily adjustable trigger pull, it has real metal scope rails (unlike the Daisy), a muzzle break, and did I mention it feels like a real gun? Pretty much all the .177 guns they had in stock were rated 1000fps (1250 with PBAs) so i figured I'd give this one a shot because it looked similar to the highly praised Phantom. (and it was cheaper than the Gamos). Plus I like the aftermarket Centerpoint laser sight I got, so I figured I might like the sight it came with.
I took it out of the box even though I wasnt supposed to, and it was immediately evident that this thing is waaaaay more heavy duty than the Daisy 880s. It looks and feels like a real gun. So for 89 bucks with a scope, I brought my Daisy in from the car and returned it for the FURY.
This gun must be really new, because it isnt even on Walmart's website, and I haven't seen anything about it on the internet other than here. The stock looks similar to some other Crosman guns, but other than that... No reviews or nothing, so I'm probably one of the only people writing about it at this point. With Walmart's )&^%*^ return policy, It was worth a tryout.
Well enough with the really long and boring backstory... sorry bout that!
Anyway, like I said i'm pretty new to Air Rifles but this thing seems nice. I have the spring version, but I've seen somewhere that theres a Nitro Version, and I was wondering if I should look to trade it in for that one. I'm wondering if theres a real difference in recoil/sound... I have neighbors pretty close, and I dont want people complaining... because I just can't stop shooting this thing!
its got a nice weight balance to it... I'd like to know if anyone here has experience with any of the other Walmart guns I mentioned up there, and if they think they might be better options... but some of them cost almost twice as much and don't deliver anymore FPS. I know accuracy is where your money goes, but I've read that some 100 dollar crosmans perfor like guns that cost 3 times as much.
I really like that I can EASILY shorten up the trigger pull. With a hair trigger, it makes a huge difference in shoulder fire accuracy for sure. I dont know if those other guns have easily adjustable trigger pulls like that.
Clearly this thing is a heckuva lot stronger than the 880s powerline. even with 10+ pumps, its not even close. I was having a good ole time with the daisy, but this thing is on another level, for sure. But check this out:
When I was pulling guns out of boxes to look at them, I noticed that the Gamo scope from the big cat whisper or one of the other Gamos (I forget which one exactly) was a lot brighter than the scope that came with the Fury. When I was boxing up the Fury to purchase it, i accidentally put that Gamo scopes in it instead of the centerpoint that it came with. And somehow I ended up with 4 scope mounts instead of two! lol whoops! So, does anyone know if the Gamo scope is better than the scope that comes with Fury? Should I just keep the Gamo, or go back to the store and get the centerpoint that comes with the Crosman?
I'll upload a picture of the Gamo scope that I ended up with, so you'll see which one I'm talking about. I don't know if the centerpoint that comes with the fury has any extra nice things going for it, but maybe one of you who has bought the fury can give me an opinion on this. The Gamo has a very clear picture, but I don't know if that equals accuracy... i heard someone say somewhere that the crossman/centerfire scope has "dual crosshairs" or something like that, to help tell if your shot is lined up, but the gamo does not have this. Maybe I misheard about the "dual crosshairs" thing, but any advice would be greatly appreciated! I don't have any complaint about the Gamo scope; it's got a nice solid sounding click when you adjust the 1/4"-100yd dials and seems like decent quality... but if someone could definitively tell me which of the two scopes is better, that would be awesome.
Also one pair of the scope rings uses 4 screws to mount the scope (2 on each side) and one pair uses 1 screw on each side. I'm not sure which is which, (Gamo or Crosman), but if anyone could tell me which would be better to use, I'd appreciate it. I figure the rings with 4 screws would be sturdier? i'm not sure though, and maybe it's a dumb question but I'd rather ask someone that knows their sh1t than take it for granted.
I also plan on mounting the aftermarket laser sight I bought onto the Fury. I actually did a ghetto rig mount last night, where I took one of the extra scope rings, put it upside down on the scope, then tightened the rail clamp down onto a part of the laser's scope ring's rail clamp.... it was wobbling a little bit though, because a screw was getting in the way. I took the ghetto laser sight rig off, but maybe I'll put it back on and take a pic to show you guys what i was talking about.
Is there a place I can get a mount that would attach the laser to the regular scope in a non-ghetto way? I guess I'd need something that looked like an "8" where one side is an inch and one side is about 5/8".
Even though - as you can see, I'm kind of an Air Gun noob - I am liking this thing A LOT. After taking a bunch of the guns at walmart out of their boxes, I really like the feel of this one, even compared to the more expensive Gamo's. The Stock is very sturdy feeling, and it has a nice balance point in front of the trigger housing for artillery style shooting. It has a very sexy all-black look, as opposed to the cheesy camouflage of some of the more expensive guns at walmart. There is actually quite a bit of kick on this thing for an airgun (I think?)... well definitely compared to the Daisy 880s. But with the trigger pull shortened to the max, it is pretty darn accurate. I've been shooting 2 different tins of pellets: The Crosman "pointed, premium grade hunting" tin and the Crosman "Destroyer EX" Both seem to be pretty accurate, but I might give a slight edge to the regular points. Hard to say yet tho, as im still getting it truly siyhter
Well I am really rambling now, but I'm glad that I can contribute in some way to the discussion of this very new product. It sure seems nice. Especially the sturdiness and heft, and the easily adjustable trigger pull. If anyone has an answer to any of my questions (especially the gamo vs centerpoint scope question), I would REALLY REALLY appreciate it.
Well, I'm gonna get back to shooting the eyeballs out of these tactical targets from 15yards.
WILD WEST SHOOTER
edited for remoaval of stop sign comments