Air Arms S410 vs S510



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Air Arms S410 vs S510
« on: July 11, 2012, 09:41:58 AM »
Howdy, folks.  As I mentioned in the "New Members" post I put up, I'm looking into PCP for the first time in my life.  I've been shooting airguns of one sort or another for most of my life but I'm in kindergarten when it comes to PCP.  During my online investigation I've run into Air Arms references and two models come to my attention.  I see that they offer an S410 and an S510 - but I don't see much (any, right off the bat, but at this point I'm not sure what to look for) difference between the two other than the designation.  I even found one video on Youtube with a note that "the S410 was renamed S510 for the U.S. market." But they both seem to still be on the market and I don't see what a change from a 4 to a 5 would make it more appropriate to the U.S. market - IF the change is only a model designation with no distinct features.  Reading a tiny bit on a U.K. forum I got the impression that S410 is a bolt action and the S510 is a side lever - but the pics I've pulled up don't bear that out, the S410's I've seen seem to have the side lever mechanism too.  So, what differentiates the one from the other?

Thanks, guys.  And I'm sure I'll have more dumb questions to ask as I attempt to polish my tiny reservoir of knowledge on the subject of PCP.
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Re: Air Arms S410 vs S510
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 01:42:24 PM »
I've a .22 AA S410SL carbine so I kept up with the going-ons when they came out with the new S510SL models.  I believe the newer models might be lighter.  And I think the air capacity in the reservoir might be different:

Air Arms 410:
S410E              314cc
S410 Classic     242cc
S410 Carbine   181cc

Air Arms 510:
S510 Regular length barrel (I think they call it Classic)     231cc
S510 Carbine                                                                   173cc

Here's a link for the air capacity of some PCPs:
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/GunVolumes.html

Could be wrong but I think the barrel of the regular length 510 rifle (Classic and XTRA) is shorter than the regular 410.  19.45" vs. 24".   But they have so many versions.....it's hard to keep track of.  I've also read that the barrel of the 410 is 19.45" also....
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Re: Air Arms S410 vs S510
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 03:26:40 PM »
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*Ed Matador R3 Wal Std .30 cal Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Ed Matador R3 Wal Std .25 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Cricket Walnut Std .22 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Cricket Walnut Compact .177 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Daystate Air Ranger .25 Haw ST 6.5-20
*S510 Carbine Thumb .22 Haw ST 6.5-20
*Custom Stubby Hi-Flo Haw ST 6.5-20
*Marauder .22 Pistol Haw Pan 4-12x50 AO
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Re: Air Arms S410 vs S510
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 05:14:15 PM »
I believe the S410 had a longer barrel. I also think the S510 is the replacement model. In any event, I have an S510 coming to me next week so my journey for a first PCP is now over.
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Re: Air Arms S410 vs S510
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 05:34:21 PM »
I just took the plunge on a S510 Carbine Thumbhole .22 walnut unexpectedly so I'll be joining the AA fold. They are reviewed as great guns.  Nice first PCP.
*IZH M46 w/ VIP MSP kit .177
*Ed Matador R3 Wal Std .30 cal Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Ed Matador R3 Wal Std .25 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Cricket Walnut Std .22 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Cricket Walnut Compact .177 Haw 8-32 (SR Pro)
*Daystate Air Ranger .25 Haw ST 6.5-20
*S510 Carbine Thumb .22 Haw ST 6.5-20
*Custom Stubby Hi-Flo Haw ST 6.5-20
*Marauder .22 Pistol Haw Pan 4-12x50 AO
*Sher Streak .20
*Sher Pistol 177
*Beeman R1 22
*Omega Compressor
*Shoebox Compressor

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