My .177 Ruger BlackHawk



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Offline deadsquirrle

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My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« on: May 19, 2012, 10:55:05 PM »
Will post some more pics and specs.

About a year and a half old
BSA 3-9x40mm scope
Added a weaver rail to the bottom for carry handle/bi-pod mount.


With bi-pod


With carry handle

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Offline deadsquirrle

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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 11:04:32 PM »
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Crosman 1377 .177
S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 11:07:42 PM »
Very nice. Ya just have to love these Rugers. One of the best buys out there. Put a tune on it and they simply do everything a good air gun should, and they do it well, cheaply :D
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 11:09:14 PM »
That's a nice group. Good shooting.
2013 hunting season totals

                  Me                     9 year old son       5 year old son       Mom
Squirrels.   4.                                   3                       2                 2  
Starlings.   22
Rabbits.                                            1.                                        1
Chippers.      3
Groundhogs.  1
Frogs.            4.                                                          1
Possums.       4
Skunks.         1
Crows.           3

Offline deadsquirrle

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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 11:16:49 PM »
Thank you both! I looked at the vortek kits but didn't want to spend $80 when the rifle was only $100. It shoots straight enough for me! When my duct seal is finished drying in my pellet trap I'll get some more accuracy results. Or if I go to the range tomorrow.
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.177 Ruger Black Hawk
Crosman 1377 .177
S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 11:18:46 PM »
Nice shooting, and the gun looks sharp.  Is the stock filled with expanding foam?   Did it improve/help lower the sound?

thanks
John
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1377 (.177)
B28 (.22) tune/chopped
Webley Omega (.20) RaneAir-sweet
B26-2 (.22) AdventureinAirguns (RandyM.+MM tuned) sweet
TF89 (.20) Bart the Fart (Shadow tuned, Rocker1 stock) wow!
B40 (.22)
B26 (.22) MikeMelick tuned
Cometa Fusion (.22) AdventuresinAirguns-sweet
TF89 (.22) tune+trigger polish-solid thump
760 (.177) g-job for the kids
Ruger AH Elite-.22 barrel swap:) FlyingDragon(M.Melick)
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 11:42:36 PM »
That thing don't need no kit ;) Get a JM seal for a Diana 34 for $18.00, a tophat from Mike Melick for $15.00, clean the internals, lube with moly, put back together and enjoy. Mine will do dime groups at 25 yards all day. The handle is a nice touch.
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Flying Dragon Gas Ram XS46u
Mike Melick Tuned XS28M
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Ruger Air Hawk Self Tuned,
Beeman 1051 RS2 Self Tuned
StormXT Self Tuned
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 11:43:38 PM »
No..it fell off and I hot glued it back on..lol (temp fix) Paul, have a liink?
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S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 11:49:23 PM »
http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/
E-mail Mike and he'll hook you up.


http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251485/43075.htm
JM seal- My mistake, the seal is only $10.00
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Diana 350 Magnum from Mike Melick
Flying DragonXS60C PCP
Flying Dragon Gas Ram XS46u
Mike Melick Tuned XS28M
Mike Melick Tuned AR2000 Jet
Ruger Air Hawk Self Tuned,
Beeman 1051 RS2 Self Tuned
StormXT Self Tuned
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 11:54:51 PM »
Cool! I'll check into it. Thank you
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S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 01:13:54 AM »
That thing don't need no kit ;) Get a JM seal for a Diana 34 for $18.00, a tophat from Mike Melick for $15.00, clean the internals, lube with moly, put back together and enjoy. Mine will do dime groups at 25 yards all day. The handle is a nice touch.
Paul just what does a tophat do?  I asked vortek about one and they said all I needed was a spring for my 34. ???
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2012, 01:35:54 AM »
The Rugers have a thin steel sleeve in the piston that I suppose is meant to somehow help "align, smooth, guide" or in some other way assist the power plant. My experience, and that of others when I researched the problem, was that this sleeve does nothing for twang, and occasionally interferes with the cocking arm and causes grinding and inability to cock the rifle.

I spoke with Mike Melick, and he recommended removing the sleeve entirely and replacing it with a tophat since I already had mine apart and was installing a seal. The tophat keeps the spring centered so it does not contact the piston walls, allows the spring to twist much more easily as it compresses and uncompresses during the shot cycle, thus speeding up the cycle, improving harmonics, and reducing spring twang.

The spring in the Rugers is fine and is at least as strong as those in the 34's. No reports that I can find of premature breakage or weakening and power is very good. At least as good as the 34's. No reason to replace em.

My Ruger AH as I mentioned is now a sweet shooter. Where it was good before out of the box, with a basic debur, lube, sleeve removal and seal and tophat installation, it is a twang free performer. The target below is 15 shots at 25 yards shooting from the knee without a rest.

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Flying DragonXS60C PCP
Flying Dragon Gas Ram XS46u
Mike Melick Tuned XS28M
Mike Melick Tuned AR2000 Jet
Ruger Air Hawk Self Tuned,
Beeman 1051 RS2 Self Tuned
StormXT Self Tuned
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 02:44:44 PM »
Mike told me that it smooths the gun out and takes the twang away. I'll probably get one. Not sure if I can install it myself though  ??? And he said he prefers to use the stock seals as they provide a slight fps edge.

Johnny Z- you gave me an idea. I think today I'll take the buttplate off and fill the stock with expanding plumber's foam and see if it helps. Heck, if it doesn't I don't think that it will add much weight.
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 07:28:42 PM »
The exp. foam is great stuff just make sure you get the minimum exp. one or you'll have allot of foam coming out everywhere. and don't get that &^^& on your hands cause not even acetone will remove it, you'll be picking it off your fingers for a day with tweezers.
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 07:52:17 PM »
Filled it up earlier with whatever kind of stuff my dad had. It doesn't seem to have helped noise reduction but it wasn't totally dry when I fired it. I have a decibel app on my phone and the gun's loudest shot last night was 87. I'll see if it has helped tomorrow after it is completely dried.

Looks like I might give the gun a Mike Melick tune-up as it won't cost me much and everyone raves about his work. We'll see
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S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2012, 10:30:19 PM »
Deadsquirrle,  I just filled the stock on my X20s with the window/door expanding foam from HD, what a mess.  I didn't do the handle portion, maybe I should drill a hole and fill it to.   I'll probably get a chance later this week to put it back together and see if it sounds any different.    Is that a Droid or Iphone decible app and does it work ok?  I do most of my shooting in the basement, so, I get a sound bouncing off the walls, and I think it makes it sound louder.

Paul68, I think that is great shooting for 15shots @ 25yrds off the knee, I'd be thrilled with that.

Thanks
John
RWS 45 (.177) Vortek PG2
1377 (.177)
B28 (.22) tune/chopped
Webley Omega (.20) RaneAir-sweet
B26-2 (.22) AdventureinAirguns (RandyM.+MM tuned) sweet
TF89 (.20) Bart the Fart (Shadow tuned, Rocker1 stock) wow!
B40 (.22)
B26 (.22) MikeMelick tuned
Cometa Fusion (.22) AdventuresinAirguns-sweet
TF89 (.22) tune+trigger polish-solid thump
760 (.177) g-job for the kids
Ruger AH Elite-.22 barrel swap:) FlyingDragon(M.Melick)
Webly ValueMax (.20) home tune
Striker 1000x (.22) home tune

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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2012, 11:46:45 PM »
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Crosman 1377 .177
S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 09:23:52 PM »
Thanks for the link, I have a droid also, will check it out.

Here is the low expansion foam I used:


I am still cleaning the excess foam, even with Acetone lots of scrubbing.

thanks again
John
RWS 45 (.177) Vortek PG2
1377 (.177)
B28 (.22) tune/chopped
Webley Omega (.20) RaneAir-sweet
B26-2 (.22) AdventureinAirguns (RandyM.+MM tuned) sweet
TF89 (.20) Bart the Fart (Shadow tuned, Rocker1 stock) wow!
B40 (.22)
B26 (.22) MikeMelick tuned
Cometa Fusion (.22) AdventuresinAirguns-sweet
TF89 (.22) tune+trigger polish-solid thump
760 (.177) g-job for the kids
Ruger AH Elite-.22 barrel swap:) FlyingDragon(M.Melick)
Webly ValueMax (.20) home tune
Striker 1000x (.22) home tune

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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2012, 10:21:34 PM »
I cleaned it up while it was still dry lol. Saved the mess. The gun is torn all apart. I'll probably just do a self tune of it as I like to know the inside and outsides of anything I use haha. If I do it myself it just makes the smile larger when I print good groups and know that I did all of the work.
  • Fort Jennings, Ohio
New to airguning

.177 Ruger Black Hawk
Crosman 1377 .177
S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
From NW Ohio
2012-
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Starlings-5

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Re: My .177 Ruger BlackHawk
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2012, 11:54:27 PM »
Need help guys! I lube everything and went to reinstall it so I can have a pesting gun for this week. Will probably order seals and maybe a new spring soon. But anyways, I got pretty far and ran into a problem with the trigger/safety part. Does anyone have pictures of how this should be installed? Thanks.

Pics show the plastic safety piece and a metal piece that fell out. Also the rear end of the trigger assembly.


  • Fort Jennings, Ohio
New to airguning

.177 Ruger Black Hawk
Crosman 1377 .177
S&W 177 BB pistol-C02
From NW Ohio
2012-
Sparrows-11
Starlings-5

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