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Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« on: March 20, 2012, 09:07:39 PM »
 Hey guys, well I should be getting $150+ for my beaver pelts this year. Was hoping to buy a disco, but 1/3 of my pelts just slipped since it got so warm out when I was thawing them out to flesh them. :( What would yall recommend for a light carbine squirrel and dove gun for under $200. No Co2 please. I'm thinking a Benji 392, maybe get it steroided in case I wander upon a coon or woodchuck while hunting, but I don't know yet how much that costs. My Marauder is great, but not a gun I would want to carry all day. :D It's gotta be capable of at the very least .75" at 30 yards. :D
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 09:23:18 PM »
Still undecided on whether to get a new AG or a powder burner. I'm thinking the Marauder .25 is all I'm really gonna need for an airgun. :D Tack driving accuracy and 40FPE is plenty for me. Don't think I would be able to shoot a springer or a multi pump after handling this beast. :D
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 09:31:22 PM »
you can find a used disco for 150 with out a pump and the best part is if you keep it open sights you can put a sling in it and its super duper lite weight..
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 09:58:42 PM »
Sounds like you answered your own question.  You're comfortable where you are at, like you say.

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 10:03:06 PM »
Wait until Airgunsdaily has a refurbished Disco in. 177 and .22. They should be about $190.
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Stoeger X20S .22
Crosman Titan Low Velocity .22
Walther Falcon Hunter .25
Benjamin 397 .177
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Sheridan Blue Streak 1969 .20
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 10:16:23 PM »
I  agree with what lampchops said. Wait for a refurb disco without a pump, as you already have one. Its capable of the groups you mentioned with a scope, plus its really light. But goodluck with whatever you chose  :D
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 10:18:05 PM »
ya disco feels like a toy in stock form. i wouldnt leave it outside on a windy day it might blow away
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 10:31:48 PM »
could build a 2240 pcp carbine.  mines really light weight and accurate
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 11:22:47 PM »
I'm thinking a Benji 392, maybe get it steroided in case I wander upon a coon or woodchuck while hunting, but I don't know yet how much that costs.

A steroid benji is an acquired taste.   You gotta love a pumper, and not mind pumping.  Really, you are only gonna get 1 shot about every 20 seconds with one of these.  The triggers need some work, but it is just disassembly of ~5 easy parts and polishing.

Here is the good from a Benji 392.  Right out the box, they put out good power, to the tune of 12-15 ftlbs.  So, if you wander up on a chuck, or coon, STOCK setup should have enough power, and heck, you can pump it to 10 pumps if you are not sure.  This should be good for 25 yds power-wise.  They are capable of 1-1.5 inch accuracy at 50 yds, so easily meet your accuracy criteria.  They are short, they are light, they are powerful.  Fun to plink to 15-20 yds with 4pumps, so not terrible for shooting sessions.
Go to RL airgun supply, or Accurate airguns websites.   They have the refurbs around 100 bucks, 30 day warranty is all you'll need.  Make sure it works, and is accurate.  Get one of Greg Lundys integrabases, and scope it with a decent 4power scope.
It will probably do all you'll ever want from this power range.   Save your other hundred, add to the pot, and when ready, send it to Mac-1 for a billet steroid job.  It will hit pcp power range then, in a neat, self contained package.

But get your feet wet with a refurb or a used one.  The bluestreaks are also available in .20 cal, some folks love that cal for hunting.  Trajectory is slightly flatter, and pellets can still be 14.3 grain.

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 12:21:46 AM »
A Benjamin 392 is very nice as Farmer suggested. Definitely go for the .22 instead of the .177. The .177 isn't nearly as powerful as the .22. They put out around 14 FPE 8 pumps with CPHPs. The iron sites suck, and are hard to get used to. The gun is accurate and begs to be shot accurately, so maybe a good peep sight would help a lot. Like Farmer said too, pumping gets annoying unless you're plinking.
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Stoeger X20S .22
Crosman Titan Low Velocity .22
Walther Falcon Hunter .25
Benjamin 397 .177
Beeman RS2 .177 & .22
Sheridan Blue Streak 1969 .20
Sheridan HB22 1985 .22
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 01:42:33 AM »
What about a Hatsan mod. 95 in .22 cal. with a nice Leapers 3x9 ao ir scope and a tune from shadow the man. What are you going to be hunting that you need 40FPE ??
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 01:44:40 AM »
What about a Hatsan mod. 95 in .22 cal. with a nice Leapers 3x9 ao ir scope and a tune from shadow the man.

I wouldn't consider that a carbine. Granted a Dicsovery or 392 isn't a carbine, either, but they are lightweight. A Hatsan 95 isn't lightweight. It is a very nice springer though.
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Hatsan Model 95 .177
Stoeger X20S .22
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Walther Falcon Hunter .25
Benjamin 397 .177
Beeman RS2 .177 & .22
Sheridan Blue Streak 1969 .20
Sheridan HB22 1985 .22
Crosman 1378
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2012 Critter Count

Squirrels- 9
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HOSP- 1
Grackles- 20+

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 01:46:41 AM »
Well you could get the barrel chopped 3" ?
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 01:47:02 AM »
consider a refurbished 392? Usually can be had for under $110-115 shipped.
They usually sell fast when they're on airgunsdaily.com aka http://www.airgundepot.com/392-rm.html

also... not a bad price: http://www.airgundepot.com/rws-34-refurbished-air-rifle-22.html
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 01:51:44 AM »
What about having Mike Melick chop a xs-b28s down to carbine lenght and do a full tune on it in .22 cal. then get a good 3x9 scope. He is recomended as a excellent barrel choper and crowner. The 392 steroid does sound like a killer to though.
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 01:53:39 AM »
Well you could get the barrel chopped 3" ?

Chopping a springer just results in a rougher firing cycle and more vibration. If you don't mind it, then go for it.
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Hatsan Model 95 .177
Stoeger X20S .22
Crosman Titan Low Velocity .22
Walther Falcon Hunter .25
Benjamin 397 .177
Beeman RS2 .177 & .22
Sheridan Blue Streak 1969 .20
Sheridan HB22 1985 .22
Crosman 1378
Crosman 3576w


2012 Critter Count

Squirrels- 9
Starlings- 6
HOSP- 1
Grackles- 20+

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 02:07:34 AM »
If you're really set on carbine...
a p-rod (aka marauder pistol, $320+)
or a heavily modded 1322  ($56 stock)
with shoulder stock ($25-30) might work too... though the p-rod is way out of the $150 ball park.


You'd basically be making your 1322 into a 2289, longer barrel + shoulder stock + metal breech.
In stock form though it should be able to take squirrel and dove, just not at 30m, more like 20m. The hb22 works well enough at 50-60 ft which is about 15-18m, and the 1322 is supposedly a lil more powerful then a hb22.  Try to keep the range between 30-50ft. Takes more focus, and steadiness for the long shots with an air pistol, especially w/o a shoulder stock.

it would also make for a decent followup shooter or backup in pistol form.
It'll never be useful on mid-large sized game though.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 02:49:14 AM by althawk »
3x 'Beeman' P17's (aka HDS9, Weifang Huadong Air Rifle Co.)
Daisy Powerline 850 - stock + 4x32 scope. Very accurate.
Benjamin 392 - stock (needs a williams peep sight) accurate.
Benjamin HB22 - stock.
Benjamin NP Pistol
Sheridan Blue Streak (1964) - estate sale rescue. Very accurate.
Sheridan C9 (1991?)- NEW 2 me
Crosman 2100 - Cheapest & least troublesome.
Crosman 1077 -
Crosman 1322 - w/ 1399.
Crosman 1377 - My 1st Airgun.
Daisy 'Limited Edition' 880 - Metal receiver

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2012, 03:26:59 AM »
"Chopping a springer just results in a rougher firing cycle and more vibration."
I think Mike Melick and a bunch of guys that have had him do this might not agree with you. But your right on a no tuned rifle i'll bet.
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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012, 03:40:17 AM »
"Chopping a springer just results in a rougher firing cycle and more vibration."
I think Mike Melick and a bunch of guys that have had him do this might not agree with you. But your right on a no tuned rifle i'll bet.

I learned that from Tom Gaylord. Most likely the most well know and respected man to ever talk about airguns.
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Hatsan Model 95 .177
Stoeger X20S .22
Crosman Titan Low Velocity .22
Walther Falcon Hunter .25
Benjamin 397 .177
Beeman RS2 .177 & .22
Sheridan Blue Streak 1969 .20
Sheridan HB22 1985 .22
Crosman 1378
Crosman 3576w


2012 Critter Count

Squirrels- 9
Starlings- 6
HOSP- 1
Grackles- 20+

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Re: Best Hunting Carbine-Under $200
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012, 03:47:08 AM »
Lampchop, thats a good reference but I think we each have our opinions so lets let it drop. No way to prove either way right ?
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