Probelm has gone away!!! Need to build an inline fill pressure gauge

[cca50]

The fill gauge on the Marauder I just received yesterday is set to read the regulator pressure after the previous owner had the regulator installed. So I can not fill the Marauder by watching the internal gauge. Unfortunately, the used Air Hog tank I purchased only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only. I have look at the Air Venturi Inline Air Pressure Gauge, 0 to 4500 psi https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-inline-air-pressure-gauge-0-to-4500-psi?a=3865 
It very well may be a great setup, but personally, I had rather have a better, more accurate gauge. In thinking (yes it hurt) I believe someone with the knowledge plus knows exactly where to acquire the parts could build a inline gauge similar to the Air Venturi setup with a male foster fill on one side and a female on the other with the quality glycerin filled gauge on a "T" in the middle. That way, it can be used when filling most PCPs, I assume, that use Foster Fill adapters. As it stands right now, even with 3200 psi in the Air Hog tank, I an afraid to fill the Marauder.
This is my 1st PCP so I am on a very steep learning curve.
Help Please!!
Charles

[Motorhead]

Couple ways ...

If you have access to a hydraulics shop ( parker store etc ... ) that sells HPA fittings in the 5000+ PSI ratings.
get a T fitting that will attach between fill manifold and hose. Then add a nice Glycerin filled / Damped pressure gauge on the 3rd leg of T .... DONE

Or get a hold of Joe B at Air Tanks For Sale via PHONE ... state what your wanting and surely he can set you up with the correct parts & pieces.

[cca50]

Couple ways ...

If you have access to a hydraulics shop ( parker store etc ... ) that sells HPA fittings in the 5000+ PSI ratings.
get a T fitting that will attach between fill manifold and hose. Then add a nice Glycerin filled / Damped pressure gauge on the 3rd leg of T .... DONE

Or get a hold of Joe B at Air Tanks For Sale via PHONE ... state what your wanting and surely he can set you up with the correct parts & pieces.

Already tried the Parker Store, drove down there yesterday afternoon late with tank in hand, nothing even close. The counterman I spoke with actually had tried to help a friend set up something similar a couple years ago. Said he worked for 2 weeks trying to come up with the parts. I asked him if the friend of his might mind if I called him or if the counterman would give him a call., hopping to find his final remedy. Come to find out, he had moved to Connecticut not long after that and the counter man lost track. Anyway, from what I was "told", the threads on the air hog fill hose are some British "off the wall".. do not know that for a fact, he may be correct. No luck contacting Joe when I tried  this morning (after 10AM his time)... but it is Saturday of  the Labor Day weekend. I did speak with a "parts specialist" with Northshore Air this morning, they had to work till noon. I had 3 of the part numbers needed I found on their website, he was going to research for a "T" or even a 4 way and a plug. He said he would get back with me Tuesday morning. I was sort of hopping someone on GTA had actually built something similar. After all, it would work on any Foster Fill setup. And yes, Joe possibly could come up with the parts. I had talked to Adam that works for Joe earlier yesterday, ordered a male to male foster fitting to adapt to the local Paintball guy's fill setup to my tanks. The paint ball guy did have several adapters for his fill manifold, but nothing close. He does have a nice fill setup with a midsize Bauer compressor and 6 what appeared to be nitrogen tanks cascaded terminating to a 2 fill tank manifold.
Thanks for the suggestions
Charles

[Ribbonstone]

Guess I'm simple minded...or don't know your set up's fittings.  But a a "T" fitting should give you a start.

Don't have to buy this guy's...although it's not a bad idea ss he lived by airguns....so long as the pressure rating is high enough, could buy anyones.
http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/product-p/hpst18npt.htm

Have delt with him many times...if you can get Tim on the phone (pretty hard) he should be able to suggest something that would work.

Would the threaded (male) part thred into where the fill hose goes in now....the hose thread into the left side femal fitting....and a gauge (pick a gauge...expensive or cheap...bit or little...) on the "t" section pointing down in the above photo?

So long as the thread matches 1/8 NPT on all 3 threads, wouldn't that work for an in-line fill gauge?

[cca50]

Guess I'm simple minded...or don't know your set up's fittings.  But a a "T" fitting should give you a start.

Don't have to buy this guy's...although it's not a bad idea ss he lived by airguns....so long as the pressure rating is high enough, could buy anyones.
http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/product-p/hpst18npt.htm

Have delt with him many times...if you can get Tim on the phone (pretty hard) he should be able to suggest something that would work.

Would the threaded (male) part thred into where the fill hose goes in now....the hose thread into the left side femal fitting....and a gauge (pick a gauge...expensive or cheap...bit or little...) on the "t" section pointing down in the above photo?

So long as the thread matches 1/8 NPT on all 3 threads, wouldn't that work for an in-line fill gauge?

I admit, I had not thought about Tim, which possibly could be a mistake. I will make an effort to contact him, just hate to during the Labor Day weekend. As for what I have, male foster fill on Marauder, female quick disconnect foster fill on the fill line. I thought my idea was simple, find a "t" with the correct threads to install a male foster fitting on one side, female on the other and a gauge on top, Preface this with this is my 1st venture into PCPs. I thought I had everything covered till all the packages arrived. Since I can not use the gauge on the Marauder to fill by and the tank setup I bought does not have a inline gauge on it, I need to come up with something that will attach inline with a good quality gauge to use for filling. Doesn't sound like that big a deal till you start searching for parts that the threads match up. If it can be built using foster fittings, it will work with most PCPs I think and easily moveable to other tanks and PCPs. The only one I have found that is sold commercially just does not have a gauge I think is accurate enough and does not to appear be made well enough, for me, at my advancing age to deal with. I openly admit, I took chances when much younger, would never do that now. I have even thought about and looked at changing tank valves to one with 2 gauges. But that idea is much to costly at the moment.
Thanks for reminding me to check with Tim,
Charles

[cca50]

Guess I'm simple minded...or don't know your set up's fittings.  But a a "T" fitting should give you a start.

Don't have to buy this guy's...although it's not a bad idea ss he lived by airguns....so long as the pressure rating is high enough, could buy anyones.
http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/product-p/hpst18npt.htm

Have delt with him many times...if you can get Tim on the phone (pretty hard) he should be able to suggest something that would work.

Would the threaded (male) part thred into where the fill hose goes in now....the hose thread into the left side femal fitting....and a gauge (pick a gauge...expensive or cheap...bit or little...) on the "t" section pointing down in the above photo?

So long as the thread matches 1/8 NPT on all 3 threads, wouldn't that work for an in-line fill gauge?

I admit, I had not thought about Tim, which possibly could be a mistake. I will make an effort to contact him, just hate to during the Labor Day weekend. As for what I have, male foster fill on Marauder, female quick disconnect foster fill on the fill line. I thought my idea was simple, find a "t" with the correct threads to install a male foster fitting on one side, female on the other and a gauge on top, Preface this with this is my 1st venture into PCPs. I thought I had everything covered till all the packages arrived. Since I can not use the gauge on the Marauder to fill by and the tank setup I bought does not have a inline gauge on it, I need to come up with something that will attach inline with a good quality gauge to use for filling. Doesn't sound like that big a deal till you start searching for parts that the threads match up. If it can be built using foster fittings, it will work with most PCPs I think and easily moveable to other tanks and PCPs. The only one I have found that is sold commercially just does not have a gauge I think is accurate enough and does not to appear be made well enough, for me, at my advancing age to deal with. I openly admit, I took chances when much younger, would never do that now. I have even thought about and looked at changing tank valves to one with 2 gauges. But that idea is much to costly at the moment.
Thanks for reminding me to check with Tim,
Charles

This will work... IF a gauge can be found to replace the top male foster fitting
http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/product-p/micaquco.htm
or maybe not. What is a " High Pressure Parker HP"? Needs to be a female foster fitting.
Charles

[cca50]

My hat is off to Ribbonstone for mentioning TimmyMac. I had sent him a PM about what I had in my mind. Received a PM back just a few minutes ago and gave him a call. He knew what I was looking for, all rated 5000 psi with a gauge I can read and trust. Wish i had thought of him earlier. Now maybe I can be plinking by the end of the week
Charles

[Old Corps]

I'm glad you seem to have found a solution but I'm confused (doesn't take much). I find it really strange re.the Air Hog tank "only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only". Do you mean the gauge reads the current pressure in the tank and it does that when it's outlet is turned off? I understand it's nice to have an extra gauge to show the current pressure in the tank--JoeB offers that option, although you can easily determine that by by putting a "test plug" in the end of the hose, open the valve and see what is. I can't understand why anyone would just have one gauge for that and not another to read what's in and entering into the gun. Just doesn't make sense. Forgive me asking a REALLY dumb question. When the valve is shut off the gauge is then showing what's in the tank? Most of these tanks have just ONE gauge and that gauge only shows pressure when it's hooked up to the gun. As you open the gauge (slowly) the needle will rise and you'll hear a click when it opens a valve in the gun and at that point it's showing what's currently in the gun. Then the needle continues to rise and you shut off the valve when you get to the pressure you desire in the gun, usually 2900-3000 psi. on the Marauder unless you tune it for a lower fill.
You more than likely already know all of this and if so I apologize but I just wondered if you were misunderstanding what having one gauge does ---NORMALLY. There's probably some reason that I'm ignorant of but why anybody would just have one gauge that reads the tank's pressure beats me.

Ed

[cca50]

I'm glad you seem to have found a solution but I'm confused (doesn't take much). I find it really strange re.the Air Hog tank "only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only". Do you mean the gauge reads the current pressure in the tank and it does that when it's outlet is turned off? I understand it's nice to have an extra gauge to show the current pressure in the tank--JoeB offers that option, although you can easily determine that by by putting a "test plug" in the end of the hose, open the valve and see what is. I can't understand why anyone would just have one gauge for that and not another to read what's in and entering into the gun. Just doesn't make sense. Forgive me asking a REALLY dumb question. When the valve is shut off the gauge is then showing what's in the tank? Most of these tanks have just ONE gauge and that gauge only shows pressure when it's hooked up to the gun. As you open the gauge (slowly) the needle will rise and you'll hear a click when it opens a valve in the gun and at that point it's showing what's currently in the gun. Then the needle continues to rise and you shut off the valve when you get to the pressure you desire in the gun, usually 2900-3000 psi. on the Marauder unless you tune it for a lower fill.
You more than likely already know all of this and if so I apologize but I just wondered if you were misunderstanding what having one gauge does ---NORMALLY. There's probably some reason that I'm ignorant of but why anybody would just have one gauge that reads the tank's pressure beats me.

Ed

Ed,
You will have to forgive my ignorance. You are correct. When I purchased the tank, I was not instructed properly. I was told you have to monitor the gauge on the gun to watch for the amount of fill, 3000 psi. I have been leery of even trying to fill the gun and openly admitted it. I just tried what you posted and it filled just as you said it would. I just shot 4 magazines at 30 yards into the inside of a dog food can. Tore the bottom out of the can that I pushed into a bale of hay. I greatly appreciate your words of wisdom and really wish you had brought this up earlier. This is my 1st PCP, actually when I open the box, it was the 1st PCP I had actually ever seen other than on the internet. There is no one in my area that does anything with a pellet gun except maybe shoot at a pesky crow in a tree outback. Even the 4 guys at the paintball shop where I went to see what was needed to fill the tanks had ever heard of a PCP. I do really appreciate you bring this to my attention.
Charles

[LDP]

I'm glad you seem to have found a solution but I'm confused (doesn't take much). I find it really strange re.the Air Hog tank "only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only". Do you mean the gauge reads the current pressure in the tank and it does that when it's outlet is turned off? I understand it's nice to have an extra gauge to show the current pressure in the tank--JoeB offers that option, although you can easily determine that by by putting a "test plug" in the end of the hose, open the valve and see what is. I can't understand why anyone would just have one gauge for that and not another to read what's in and entering into the gun. Just doesn't make sense. Forgive me asking a REALLY dumb question. When the valve is shut off the gauge is then showing what's in the tank? Most of these tanks have just ONE gauge and that gauge only shows pressure when it's hooked up to the gun. As you open the gauge (slowly) the needle will rise and you'll hear a click when it opens a valve in the gun and at that point it's showing what's currently in the gun. Then the needle continues to rise and you shut off the valve when you get to the pressure you desire in the gun, usually 2900-3000 psi. on the Marauder unless you tune it for a lower fill.
You more than likely already know all of this and if so I apologize but I just wondered if you were misunderstanding what having one gauge does ---NORMALLY. There's probably some reason that I'm ignorant of but why anybody would just have one gauge that reads the tank's pressure beats me.

Ed

Exactly what I was thinking but you beat me to it Glad the OP is on the right track and using his new equipment

[cca50]

+2
Charles

[Old Corps]

I'm glad you seem to have found a solution but I'm confused (doesn't take much). I find it really strange re.the Air Hog tank "only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only". Do you mean the gauge reads the current pressure in the tank and it does that when it's outlet is turned off? I understand it's nice to have an extra gauge to show the current pressure in the tank--JoeB offers that option, although you can easily determine that by by putting a "test plug" in the end of the hose, open the valve and see what is. I can't understand why anyone would just have one gauge for that and not another to read what's in and entering into the gun. Just doesn't make sense. Forgive me asking a REALLY dumb question. When the valve is shut off the gauge is then showing what's in the tank? Most of these tanks have just ONE gauge and that gauge only shows pressure when it's hooked up to the gun. As you open the gauge (slowly) the needle will rise and you'll hear a click when it opens a valve in the gun and at that point it's showing what's currently in the gun. Then the needle continues to rise and you shut off the valve when you get to the pressure you desire in the gun, usually 2900-3000 psi. on the Marauder unless you tune it for a lower fill.
You more than likely already know all of this and if so I apologize but I just wondered if you were misunderstanding what having one gauge does ---NORMALLY. There's probably some reason that I'm ignorant of but why anybody would just have one gauge that reads the tank's pressure beats me.

Ed

Ed,
You will have to forgive my ignorance. You are correct. When I purchased the tank, I was not instructed properly. I was told you have to monitor the gauge on the gun to watch for the amount of fill, 3000 psi. I have been leery of even trying to fill the gun and openly admitted it. I just tried what you posted and it filled just as you said it would. I just shot 4 magazines at 30 yards into the inside of a dog food can. Tore the bottom out of the can that I pushed into a bale of hay. I greatly appreciate your words of wisdom and really wish you had brought this up earlier. This is my 1st PCP, actually when I open the box, it was the 1st PCP I had actually ever seen other than on the internet. There is no one in my area that does anything with a pellet gun except maybe shoot at a pesky crow in a tree outback. Even the 4 guys at the paintball shop where I went to see what was needed to fill the tanks had ever heard of a PCP. I do really appreciate you bring this to my attention.
Charles

Oh man, that's GREAT! Now I feel like a superhero! Don't feel bad I'm a relatively new PCPer myself. I was kinda afraid that you'd think I was a jerk for assuming you didn't know what I was telling you already, lol. Now get out there and shoot the heck outta that 'Rauder, it's an awesome rifle!

Ed

[cca50]

I'm glad you seem to have found a solution but I'm confused (doesn't take much). I find it really strange re.the Air Hog tank "only has one gauge that reads the tank pressure only". Do you mean the gauge reads the current pressure in the tank and it does that when it's outlet is turned off? I understand it's nice to have an extra gauge to show the current pressure in the tank--JoeB offers that option, although you can easily determine that by by putting a "test plug" in the end of the hose, open the valve and see what is. I can't understand why anyone would just have one gauge for that and not another to read what's in and entering into the gun. Just doesn't make sense. Forgive me asking a REALLY dumb question. When the valve is shut off the gauge is then showing what's in the tank? Most of these tanks have just ONE gauge and that gauge only shows pressure when it's hooked up to the gun. As you open the gauge (slowly) the needle will rise and you'll hear a click when it opens a valve in the gun and at that point it's showing what's currently in the gun. Then the needle continues to rise and you shut off the valve when you get to the pressure you desire in the gun, usually 2900-3000 psi. on the Marauder unless you tune it for a lower fill.
You more than likely already know all of this and if so I apologize but I just wondered if you were misunderstanding what having one gauge does ---NORMALLY. There's probably some reason that I'm ignorant of but why anybody would just have one gauge that reads the tank's pressure beats me.

Ed

Ed,
You will have to forgive my ignorance. You are correct. When I purchased the tank, I was not instructed properly. I was told you have to monitor the gauge on the gun to watch for the amount of fill, 3000 psi. I have been leery of even trying to fill the gun and openly admitted it. I just tried what you posted and it filled just as you said it would. I just shot 4 magazines at 30 yards into the inside of a dog food can. Tore the bottom out of the can that I pushed into a bale of hay. I greatly appreciate your words of wisdom and really wish you had brought this up earlier. This is my 1st PCP, actually when I open the box, it was the 1st PCP I had actually ever seen other than on the internet. There is no one in my area that does anything with a pellet gun except maybe shoot at a pesky crow in a tree outback. Even the 4 guys at the paintball shop where I went to see what was needed to fill the tanks had ever heard of a PCP. I do really appreciate you bring this to my attention.
Charles

Oh man, that's GREAT! Now I feel like a superhero! Don't feel bad I'm a relatively new PCPer myself. I was kinda afraid that you'd think I was a jerk for assuming you didn't know what I was telling you already, lol. Now get out there and shoot the heck outta that 'Rauder, it's an awesome rifle!

Ed

Oh I did use some pellets and air this afternoon. I am amazed how quiet the Marauder is. The original owner had Travis at WAR do quite a bit of work on it to keep it extremely quiet. Now the large tank is down to just below 2800 psi and the gun isn't filling to 3000 psi. So it will have to be on hold waiting for a male to male foster fitting, should be here mid week, so the guy at the paintball range can fill it. With that fitting, I can top off the 88 cu ft and the smaller empty 44 cu ft tanks. Then I can waste some lead Appreciate the help
Charles