Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets



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Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« on: November 21, 2015, 02:38:14 AM »
I have been working on some designs for diabolo pellets for 45 and 50 caliber.  They have made me molds for both calibers but the size is not to spec so they sent me some samples to shoot anyway to see what they do.

The picture shows a 45 caliber weighing 172 grains and a 18 grain 22 JSB under it. The right diabolo is 50 caliber with a 25 caliber, 27 grain slug I swaged under it.

I will have multiple molds of each caliber, all the same, which will go into a semi-auto caster so I can mass produce these and keep costs down.  This ammo will be cheaper than my swaged ammo considerably because I can make it so much quicker.

It will still be a little while depending on testing. I won't start producing until they are tested and all the molds are made for each caliber.  Because diabolo pellets are not as picky to twist rates, these, in theory, should shoot in most guns very accurate.

There is more cool ammo in the pipeline as well and will update as we get closer.

Would love people to chime about ammo they think would be good for the mass market as well as what they think about these pellets. 
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 03:43:33 AM »
Nice!  Can't wait to see your results.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2015, 08:18:25 AM »
The 50 cal. tweaks my interest. Any idea on the weight and diameter?

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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 09:30:23 AM »
I would like to try these in my DAQ .458.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2015, 11:16:43 AM »
The weight of 50 cal in this version came out to 198 grains, 45 was 172 grains.  These weights may change slightly in the final version. This is a trial run for both calibers and this mold may, and probably will be remade.  The diameter is something we are testing so we don't know what it will end up yet.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2015, 10:42:12 AM »
Some awesome looking BIG bore pellets  !!!!!!
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2015, 11:23:43 AM »
The pellet mold came out not in spec but the mold maker sent me some samples anyway to see how they shoot.  They were way too loose in the barrel which we figured would be the case. The head size was only 0.447 shooting out of our Texans which is way too small.  I also shot the 50 cal pellets out of my newly tuned from Will Piatt Dragonclaw.  Same thing, the head size was way undersized and showed in the results.

Called the mold maker and he will make new molds to the correct specs and we will retest again.  Will keep you posted as we make progress.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2016, 05:10:29 PM »
Hey Nick any progress with the .457 diablo's?? Would like to try some out. What will the pricing be sir?
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2016, 05:34:06 PM »
They are in line to be cut but I have received them.  It is only one mold to make sure it works and if it does I will order the other 5 to match.  I don't know pricing quite yet and want to make sure they work before I get a head of myself.  I should have them in the next couple of weeks and will test them. If they work, it takes about a month before they are cut for the other 5 for my machine.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 06:04:15 PM »
Great! Very looking forward to it. Keep us posted when you have the time. I couldnt imagine trying to make ammo for everyone right now. Must be very time consuming. We all appreciate your dedication to provide us with quality ammo though. I honestly wouldnt know what to do without everything im learning here on G.T.A. Eveyone is such a big help when needed. It has already saved me lots of time and frustration. Thumbs up to G.T.A. 
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2016, 10:45:47 AM »
Any updates on the .45 diabolo?   ???
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2016, 12:05:01 PM »
They were supposed to run yesterday but true to form they did not.  I called this morning and they are cutting the mold today and then they have to make the hollow base conversion for the mold.  Apparently they have had problems with the tooling used to cut the mold not being long enough to reach the outer dimensions of the bullet.  They made new tooling and think it will be fine now.  They said if this pellet flies good and I want to order the other five matching dies that it will be no problem because they will save the cnc programming and have the right tooling to make it.  I hope the wait and frustration will be worth it.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2016, 12:31:18 PM »
Thanks for the quick reply Nick, I'll be patiently waiting for more updates.  I hope they work out too!
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2016, 09:43:54 AM »
It's been determined that my Evanix Sniper .45 might benefit from .453 @200gr and less. Is this one of the sizes? And what would the OAL be? The magazine only accepts up to .600. I think it will be an interesting experiment to see how they do.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2016, 10:53:13 AM »
The bullet I called out was .595 so it would fit the magazine and the 45 caliber diabolo is around 170 or 180 grain.  They cut the mold Tuesday so now I am waiting for the hollow base and pins to be made.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2016, 09:23:54 PM »
Finally my mold maker figured out how to cut my diabolo shaped slugs/pellets.  For what ever reason they really struggled to get their equipment to cut them.  These are one mold each of 45 and 50 caliber that I should get by Monday.  I have to send out the 45 calibers to be tested because my Texan is not shooting right and my Sam Yang 45 is in service on one my trapping trucks.  I will test the 50 caliber in my Dragonclaw.

So assuming the slugs shoot well I will order more molds to go on my casting machine and have them available for sale.  I think they will drop around 180 (45) and 210 (50) grains but when I get them I will cast them and weigh them and confirm that.

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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2016, 06:11:33 PM »
Hello, I have a Texan and live only a few miles from your shop. I would be happy to help you with the testing... I need to purchase some more of your .457, 168 gr ammo anyway. Just message me if interested. Thanks!
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2016, 03:10:21 PM »
Just hand casted the new 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets.  The 45's are around 186 grains and the 50's around 211 grains.  It will change slightly when I put on my machine because I only use pure certified lead in my machine and I use scraps mixed with virgin lead on my hand-caster for testing.

I have sent 45 and 50's out for some people to test for me so hoping to get results next week.  I need to find someone with an Exanix 45 and 50 to send some pellets to and see if they fit the magazine and how they shoot.

If you have an Evanix and can shoot soon after receiving the pellets to report results please PM me.  I have one more bag of 50's (saving for an Evanix) to send out and 3 or 4 bags of 45's.  45 I would like to send to someone with an Evanix and someone with a Sam Yang.

Picture shows the 50 and 45 with a 25 JSB for reference.
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2016, 11:21:02 PM »
Nick.  I can test some in my Texan soon as they arrive (Texan is fixed.) Or better yet id like to order some from you.  Are they available as of yet?  Thank you
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Re: Upcoming 45 and 50 caliber diabolo pellets
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2016, 01:49:41 AM »
Steve I sent you some of these and will go in the mail tomorrow you should have a tracking email already sent to you. Let me know how they do for you, they are not tested as of yet.
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