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Title: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: fenixt on March 06, 2013, 01:14:41 PM
I don't understand what the trigger adjustment does. Does it adjust how far the trigger pulls before the seer releases?

What does clockwise vs. counter clockwise do?
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: tilbertscott on March 06, 2013, 02:38:09 PM
In the manual it says clockwise is longer counterclockwise is shorter it is really a small piece of plastic with a tiny screw thre threw it that is why it does nothing in the install of the GTR III trigger it says to back that screw out and get rid of tge plastic alltogether, I would suggest u get the GTR III trigger from Charlie da tuna. Its about 30 $ easy install just ast easy a s turning that dumb screw that's worthless. I hope that helps
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: fenixt on March 06, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
Thanks. I read that in the manual too, but seems kind of backwards, idk. I might get the tuna trigger in the future, but right now not really sold on it. I don't have that much of a problem with the stock one. I'm definitely getting the brass washers though. Just hate paypal, they locked me out of my account for the second time, and are being really draconian about the method of verifying it.

But right now I have the gun halfway apart. I have the barrel off, and just need a bar clamp to compress the ram to get the trigger out. I plan on polishing up all the contact points of the trigger and taking a look at the guts and see what's going on.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: CharlieDaTuna on March 06, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
The trigger adjustment screw does nothing and has little or no adjustment value.  ??? ::) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: Baltim0re28 on March 06, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Get you a CDT trigger. Makes a WORLD of difference..
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: fenixt on March 06, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
Does the gold trigger modify the seer engagement?
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: daveb50 on March 06, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
fenixt, the trigger itself is only held in by one pin, you do not need to compress the ram to remove it. See the GRT III installation instructions. If you pull the wrong pin, I hear it's a bear to get everything reinstalled. The GTR III trigger gives you a lighter trigger pull, with a small first stage pull that's even lighter. It takes some getting used to, I adjusted it, in small increments, to get the pull I wanted. Since shooting 40-50 shots after the install, I can get better groups with my Benji Trail than the stock trigger (which I didn't think was all that bad either, until I shot it with the new trigger). It took me awhile to take the leap, but I'm glad I did.
Dave
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: Baltim0re28 on March 06, 2013, 07:04:30 PM
You really can't get a better explanation than Dave just gave. And I +1 on your groups will be ALOT better.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: PaperPunch1 on March 06, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
The screw does nothing......get a good trigger, like the CDT  you'll appreciate the adjustability, and functionality.
PaperPunch1
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: fenixt on March 06, 2013, 09:32:06 PM
I know I don't need to take the ram out to get to the trigger. The trigger is just one of the few things I'm looking at, I was taking the piston/ram out regardless. But I also took it completely out so I could see how the whole thing works. I guess that's my bad, I should of said trigger 'assembly' and not just trigger.

Is this spring supposed to be here sitting across the screw like this?
(http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff468/thunt5/IMG_0852.jpg)
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: Baltim0re28 on March 06, 2013, 09:49:11 PM
Yes. Mine was the same way before I switched triggers.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: fenixt on March 06, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Okay, thanks baltimore.  I took that spring out, and it was nice and easier to pull, but had a bit of slop in it (I guess that's what the 'first stage' screw in the gtr trigger removes)

I've been messing around with it for a bit, looking at how it works, and why the screw does nothing, but got it sorted out and firing nicely now.
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: daveb50 on March 07, 2013, 01:42:17 AM
Okay, thanks baltimore.  I took that spring out, and it was nice and easier to pull, but had a bit of slop in it (I guess that's what the 'first stage' screw in the gtr trigger removes)

I've been messing around with it for a bit, looking at how it works, and why the screw does nothing, but got it sorted out and firing nicely now.

Glad you got it sorted out. The stock trigger is not really bad, you can live with it,  but the GRT is really that much better. On the GRT the first stage is very light pressure, then just a little more pressure to fire. Very predictable. I couldn't feel two stages on the stock one, just steady pull pressure until it eventually went off.
Dave
Title: Re: Benjamin Trail NP trigger adjustment
Post by: oakey on March 07, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
I have to agree with Tilbert and everyone else who said spend the 35 bucks and buy a DaTuna special. I messed with the stock trigger adjustments on MY NP XL and it did little to improve the performance of the unfortunate triggers Crosman use in these guns. The GRTlll is cake to install if you can follow some simple direction. The hardest part was following all Charlies direction to buy it and getting a money order out to him. Installation was a breeze. There are also videos on the net for the install in NP and tons of support here. After the install my accuracy improved and my groups shrank immediately. Like Dave said the Trigger is predictable you know when the shot will snap. You will be amazed. I was.

Oaks