Thanks Gene for the info. I'm about ready to hit the order buttontoo. I use my guns strictly for hunting Cathas me spoiled. If I could get 30 yard accuracy with the Venon, I'd have one in a heartbeat. Need a new toy. Have a Walther Talon .22 that dumps squirrels at 50+ yds with no problem. I don't like to carry it in the woods-too heavy. I'm 66 and holding=need a lighter gun like the Big Cat. I love Crosman technology, but the crazy stocks and the weight of their quality guns holds me back.