GTA
All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Back Room => Topic started by: Berky on February 27, 2013, 09:10:06 PM
-
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
-
yes they can
-
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
It depends. While air guns aren't considered firearms under federal law, some states do. For example, in Michigan an air gun with an overall length of less then 30 inches and rifled barrel is considered a firearm.
-
Specifically the state of Pa
-
different states different laws ln ms. felons are allowed pellet guns
-
I am, unfortunately, a felon. And yes, I do own airguns. I know it's perfectly legal here in Ohio, and was in Texas as well.
-
It depends on the state. Federally, yes, a felon can own them. Also, some states are better than others in getting those rights restored/expunged. Depends on the crime and if you've been clean for a long time, etc. But I think you have to hire a lawyer to petititon the court or something.
-
Here in Canada,
If a crime was permitted where a firearm was used or Violent crime, then a firearms ban placed on that person, the only airgun that could be purchased, are the sub 500fps models.
All other airguns with velocities higher then 500 fps (even 501fps) require a P.A.L ( Firearms license), the felon would not have one of these, as it would have been revoked.
-
I am, unfortunately, a felon. And yes, I do own airguns. I know it's perfectly legal here in Ohio, and was in Texas as well.
then you can own them in missouri as well . In mo unless laws changed a felon can posses a air rifle or cap fired back powder .
Always send a letter to the state Attorney generals office for what the laws are. Do not count on someone like myself on the net.
-
The funny thing is if you ever look at certain felonies you laugh and wonder why they are considered such. Would kind of not so good to get hit with one of those charges and then never be able to own a real gun!
But I guess it is easier for the law makers to envelope all then pull out certain ones to apply to gun ownership.
I knew Cecil Whiteside and saw his some 2000 airgun collection in person and shot alot with him....................he too was a felon from the 70's and one of those crazy laws that puts you in that same boat and could only own airguns!
He had a very impressive collection to say the least!
-
In NJ you couldn't own a sling shot.
-
lol, i thought in NJ, slingshots arent allowed anyway? Maybe they changed the law? I know when i lived there, 1995 to 2003, my dad use to get our bb guns and slingshots from deleware when we were kids. we had a big backyard and use to have a blast back there. I actully think i remember a sticker on my wooden slingshot that said not for sale in a bunch of states (including NJ) and i use to think i was awesome cause i had one. lol
-
lol, i thought in NJ, slingshots arent allowed anyway? Maybe they changed the law? I know when i lived there, 1995 to 2003, my dad use to get our bb guns and slingshots from deleware when we were kids. we had a big backyard and use to have a blast back there. I actully think i remember a sticker on my wooden slingshot that said not for sale in a bunch of states (including NJ) and i use to think i was awesome cause i had one. lol
You were awesome because you had one and the others did not...stay awesome my friend.
Joe
-
lol, i thought in NJ, slingshots arent allowed anyway? Maybe they changed the law? I know when i lived there, 1995 to 2003, my dad use to get our bb guns and slingshots from deleware when we were kids. we had a big backyard and use to have a blast back there. I actully think i remember a sticker on my wooden slingshot that said not for sale in a bunch of states (including NJ) and i use to think i was awesome cause i had one. lol
I'm still picking up marbles from around the property, at least a half dozen a year. Keeping them in a jar. Wife said I will soon have all my marbles back.
-
The funny thing is if you ever look at certain felonies you laugh and wonder why they are considered such.
No kidding. Everything is a felony nowadays. Performing electrical work for hire without a state lecense is a felony where I live. Yeah, real dangerous people.
-
Ya got that one backwards. Its under 30" is considered a firearm.
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
It depends. While air guns aren't considered firearms under federal law, some states do. For example, in Michigan an air gun with an overall length of less then 30 inches and rifled barrel is considered a firearm.
-
If you have been commited to a mental facility by anyone other than yourself you can never own a firearm again.You can own a pellet rifle in the state of NC though.
-
If you have been commited to a mental facility by anyone other than yourself you can never own a firearm again.You can own a pellet rifle in the state of NC though.
That's a myth. You must go before a Judge for it to count against you. Read the fine print. A 72-hour hold doesn't qualify.
-
Ya got that one backwards. Its under 30" is considered a firearm.
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
It depends. While air guns aren't considered firearms under federal law, some states do. For example, in Michigan an air gun with an overall length of less then 30 inches and rifled barrel is considered a firearm.
I said under 30 inches, how am I wrong?
-
it's not a firearm. shouldn't be considered as such in my opinion. ;D if a felon's possession of an airgun posses a threat to society, he shouldn't even be walking free. if they are free and walking around with the rest of us, they should be allowed to have an airgun. why not? ;D
i know some that cant own firearms but has pellet guns. i think they should take a real world approach at this one myself. some felons are far from a danger to society and should be allowed firearms even. just my .02.
-
In NY, a sling shot is an assault weapon (pistol grip)! ;)
-
Sorry, I misread that.
Ya got that one backwards. Its under 30" is considered a firearm.
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
It depends. While air guns aren't considered firearms under federal law, some states do. For example, in Michigan an air gun with an overall length of less then 30 inches and rifled barrel is considered a firearm.
I said under 30 inches, how am I wrong?
-
lol in nj a fork is a deadly weapon yes different states have different laws on what constitutes a firearm i had a cousin who had a domestic issue so he was in same boa as a feon no pbs he was one who got me into airguns in depth tho he did get a lawyer and get a waiver to have hunting rifles and was successfull but i would gather this would easier in some states than in others and i agre with mt sheron some felonies are silly my dad was law enforcement and he considered alot of stuff bs like mr whiteside he probably got a moonshining rap or something like that it is best to check locally tho dont be afraid to do that just because your a felon doesnt mean youre devoid of all rights lol in my youth i could have very easily become a felon myself good luck
-
The funny thing is if you ever look at certain felonies you laugh and wonder why they are considered such.
No kidding. Everything is a felony nowadays. Performing electrical work for hire without a state lecense is a felony where I live. Yeah, real dangerous people.
I am a master electrician and let me tell you, those people are much, much more dangerous than you think! :)
-
Sorry, I misread that.
Ya got that one backwards. Its under 30" is considered a firearm.
I would imagine convicted felons can still possess pellet guns? It's not considered a firearm. Whats your take on this topic?
It depends. While air guns aren't considered firearms under federal law, some states do. For example, in Michigan an air gun with an overall length of less then 30 inches and rifled barrel is considered a firearm.
I said under 30 inches, how am I wrong?
No need to beat yourself up.
-
It depends on the state. Federally, yes, a felon can own them. Also, some states are better than others in getting those rights restored/expunged. Depends on the crime and if you've been clean for a long time, etc. But I think you have to hire a lawyer to petititon the court or something.
While in Texas a felon can own an air gun, it is much harder to get expunged even for a non violent felony. Mine was over 30 years ago and I am still paying the price. It would cost $1000's of dollars to get it expunged, and the time I have left on this earth is not worth it. I had rather feed my family than waste the cash just to own a firearm.
-
i will tell you this im not a felon hae pbs but ive been slowly selling them off moreso recently as the price of guns is up a good market for sellers and heres why i like the idea of using air these airguns are accurate some are loud but not that reverberating crack i like the challenge of an airgun also they may incurr more start up costs like pcps but in long run i cast my own and am shooting much cheaper than with pbs also has anyone looked for ammo lately im shooting while the guy who cant find ammo thats outrageously expensive cant also it brings me to a place like this where information is shared and there are many more than decent innovative people and my oint is to those of you who cant posess pbs in my eyes you aint missing too much
-
In Illlinois, I can't get a foid card because I've been hospitalized for anxiety....Although I can't say I disagree with that law as the same rule applies to people with much more severe mental illness. Its probably for the better. I can have a doctor write a note saying I'm no threat to anybody or myself, but its just not worth it. I enjoy my airguns.
-
The funny thing is if you ever look at certain felonies you laugh and wonder why they are considered such.
No kidding. Everything is a felony nowadays. Performing electrical work for hire without a state lecense is a felony where I live. Yeah, real dangerous people.
I am a master electrician and let me tell you, those people are much, much more dangerous than you think! :)
I'm no electrician but I know that's right after I watched Holmes On Homes for years and saw all the dangerous wiring that electricians rigged up in people's homes. It's a wonder the wiring and connections didn't burn the homes down or electrocute the owners. More good people are needed in the industry who are willing to do the job right that's for certain.
-
what s black crispyand crunchy and hangs from a chandelier ..... a bad electrician i think just because you have a felony non violent felons the right to own a gun should be determined on an individual basis and as ive read money may be an impediment to getting that right back shouldnt be determined on your ability to pay but whether your fit to have one but like i said id rather have airguns anyhow
-
I was convicted of a Federal felony about 10 years ago, for weed. I have been told that I can't even have a muzzleloader, even though in NC felons can. Seems I have to follow the Federal rules. Does anyone know if I could have an airgun? I am interested in deer hunting with one. I had never heard of airguns over 22 caliber before seeing it on a tv show the other day.
thanx in advance. CRAZY
-
I recently found out in the great state of Texas a felon my posses a firearm after 5 years of completed probation, but it must remain on his property, but he can not legally purchase said firearm (I was told this by a county sheriff). They have this law basically personal protection. Now you can apply to have your felony expunged, but that will cost 1000s of dollars and their is no guarantee that it will be expunged.
-
In Ohio. A Felon can own an Air Gun as it's not a firearm under Federal nor State Laws.
Michigan is a bit different but if convicted in Ohio as a Felon and your in Michigan? Michigan goes by the State you were convicted in.
NO! I have no Felony Convictions but I know alot of people that do and I researched a bit for them.
Seems that can't use Google any better then they can stay outta trouble.
???
-
The funny thing is if you ever look at certain felonies you laugh and wonder why they are considered such.
No kidding. Everything is a felony nowadays. Performing electrical work for hire without a state lecense is a felony where I live. Yeah, real dangerous people.
I am a master electrician and let me tell you, those people are much, much more dangerous than you think! :)
X2, a 25 year Industrial Electrician and I cringe at some of the work I see done today by home owners and other 'electricians'.....
-
I have mentioned airguns to 2 friends that are felons in Texas. They were both told they could not own anything that shoots a projectile by their probation officers. They are both off probation but still believe they can't even have an air soft gun.
-
I have mentioned airguns to 2 friends that are felons in Texas. They were both told they could not own anything that shoots a projectile by their probation officers. They are both off probation but still believe they can't even have an air soft gun.
They were told wrong. Clearly states firearms, but then again we had a thread about border crossing with air rifles where they got it wrong. :)
-
I was just talking to a friend last night about this. He said he could own a muzzle loader but not a shotgun or rifle. I suggested a pellet gun. Told him there were some with enough FPE to take down a person breaking into his house. He may look into it to check Indiana laws.
-
I was just talking to a friend last night about this. He said he could own a muzzle loader but not a shotgun or rifle. I suggested a pellet gun. Told him there were some with enough FPE to take down a person breaking into his house. He may look into it to check Indiana laws.
I would not suggest an air rifle/gun for home defense. Maybe for critters messing with live stock. JMHO
-
In UK this is the law it's a bit simpler if the law of the land is just that, it must get confusing when the individual states have their own laws as well as national laws.
Section 21 Possession of a firearm by persons previously convicted of crime.
Prosecutors should check to see if a defendant commits an offence under section 21 Firearms Act 1968 whenever a firearm or ammunition is involved. A person commits such an offence if:
He has possession, of any class of Firearm (except imitations and deactivated weapons), or any ammunition, including shot gun and air weapon ammunition. From 14 July 2014, prohibited persons will commit an offence if they are in possession of antique firearm, irrespective of whether it is possessed as a curiosity or an ornament.
At the time of possession has been previously convicted of any offence and was sentenced to a term of imprisonment (including detention in a Youth Offender Institute (YOI) and Detention and Training Order (DTO).
If the sentence was 3 years or more the prohibition is for life.
If between 3 months and 3 years and is in possession within 5 years of release.
This section does not apply to those sentenced to a Hospital Order.
(From 14 July 2014) a person who is sentenced to a period of imprisonment of 3 months or more whose sentence is suspended is prohibited for a period of 5 years commencing on the second day after the sentence was imposed. (Persons in possession of a firearm on a certificate on 14 July 2014 are entitled to continue to hold the firearm until the period of the certificate expires)
-
I have mentioned airguns to 2 friends that are felons in Texas. They were both told they could not own anything that shoots a projectile by their probation officers. They are both off probation but still believe they can't even have an air soft gun.
Have them check again. I'm not sure what state he's in, but have you watched Dog, The Bounty Hunter? He carries and air soft gun because he is a felon and can't have a weapon
-
I was convicted of a Federal felony about 10 years ago, for weed. I have been told that I can't even have a muzzleloader, even though in NC felons can. Seems I have to follow the Federal rules. Does anyone know if I could have an airgun? I am interested in deer hunting with one. I had never heard of airguns over 22 caliber before seeing it on a tv show the other day.
thanx in advance. CRAZY
I believe that under federal law a muzzleloader is NOT considered a firearm, so you should be able to possess and hunt with one, check the law.
Jim - jhm757
-
have you watched Dog, The Bounty Hunter?
Unfortuantely yes, I watched for 10 minutes or so.................. :o
-
They can own muzzleloaders too.
As many adults in the country that got a felony charge on freaking marijuana, it's ridiculous. Stupid drug laws screw up people's lives. Yeag they shouldn't have done it, but they could be a completely different guy than they were at 18.
-
They can own muzzleloaders too.
As many adults in the country that got a felony charge on freaking marijuana, it's ridiculous. Stupid drug laws screw up people's lives. Yeag they shouldn't have done it, but they could be a completely different guy than they were at 18.
Some people screw up and get caught, others don't. A lot of my friends have passed since I was young. More friends have died from drinking than smoking. It is what it is.
-
there's only two kinds of people ..... those that got caught and those that didn't ..... everybody has done something .